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    #9514436 - 12/29/08 08:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: dr_gonz]
    #9514601 - 12/29/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Nah...it's just a bunch of Yoda sounding stuff about water, trees, and air...


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: dr_gonz]
    #9515121 - 12/29/08 10:12 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I like it a lot. I haven't finished it yet because I tend to reread each page obsessively.

I recommend it.


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #9516340 - 12/30/08 02:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Essentially the point of the book is that there is a current/energy/creative force/oneness to all things that exist, and that going with it is the best way to lead an enjoyable life.

best examples that come to mind:

1- Water can easily be anything and go anywhere; it fills cracks effortlessly, everything it does is effortless. Be like water.

2- the three vinegar tasters; vinegar is life. Confucious thinks life is sour and needs stricter adherence to dogma and ritual, Buddha thinks it's bitter because life is suffering due to desire, and Lao Tzu thinks it's sweet because vinegar is naturally supposed to taste that way, it's just fulfilling its duty of "Being Vinegar", and to judge it negatively attempts to take away its right to be vinegar.


It goes on and on and on to try to pound this into your head; if you need that and don't find these examples to be full and explanatory to your liking, go ahead and read it.


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: LSDXM]
    #9516590 - 12/30/08 05:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Essentially the point of the book is that there is a current/energy/creative force/oneness to all things that exist, and that going with it is the best way to lead an enjoyable life.




This may be fine as poetry, but as a directive is pure gibberish.


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9516614 - 12/30/08 05:33 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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This may be fine as poetry, but as a directive is pure gibberish.




And beautiful poetry it is. I don't think anyone holds the Tao Te Ching as a literal history of the world, nor is it possible to do so. Sorry, but we're not talking about the Bible, nor are we talking about Bible thumpers. Try another thread.


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: dr_gonz]
    #9516628 - 12/30/08 05:43 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I love it!



"The Tao is like a well:
used but never used up.
It is like the eternal void:
filled with infinite possibilities

Can you step back from your own mind
and thus understand all things?

Hold on to the center

Colors blind the eye.
Sounds deafen the ear.
Flavors numb the taste.
Thoughts weaken the mind.
Desires wither the heart.

The Master observes the world
but trusts his inner vision.
He allows things to come and go.
His heart is open as the sky.

Love the world as your self;
then you can care for all things.

Look, and it can't be seen.
Listen, and it can't be heard.
Reach, and it can't be grasped.

Above, it isn't bright.
Below, it isn't dark.
Seamless, unnamable,
it returns to the realm of nothing.
Form that includes all forms,
image without an image,
subtle, beyond all conception.

Approach it and there is no beginning;
follow it and there is no end.
You can't know it, but you can be it,
at ease in your own life.
Just realize where you come from:
this is the essence of wisdom.


The Tao te ching is completely appliable to daily life
it is in no way merely poetic or even philosophical
it points the attention to infinity
which has everything to do with everything

:peace:


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9516664 - 12/30/08 06:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Essentially the point of the book is that there is a current/energy/creative force/oneness to all things that exist, and that going with it is the best way to lead an enjoyable life.




This may be fine as poetry, but as a directive is pure gibberish.




What the fuck are you talking about?

"Take the path of least resistance" is gibberish?

Ok... only if you like life to suck ass...


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: LSDXM]
    #9516929 - 12/30/08 08:56 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

How would you apply "take the path of least resistance" to specific decisions?

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    #9516935 - 12/30/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: dr_gonz]
    #9516947 - 12/30/08 09:02 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That's not applying it to a specific decision.  An example:

Shall I study tonight or watch TV?

Would following one's perception of the path of least resistance always result in the optimum choice of activities?

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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: Veritas]
    #9517087 - 12/30/08 09:44 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Depends on whether you really find your classes necessary or not.

Watching TV will likely = failure of the class
Studying will likely = success in the class leading to a degree leading to a fulfilling life, involving far less struggle than the path involving more constant television viewing

So, yes, since humans are often given the gift of foresight.


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    #9517153 - 12/30/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So sometimes one should take the path of least resistance, and sometimes one should take the path of most resistance, because someday it might lead to less resistance?

IMO, this "advice" is a complete misunderstanding of Taoism.  Attempting to reject and resist reality is what can make life hellish.  Reality includes both challenges and rewards, and those who see the challenges as signs that they are "on the wrong path" are inwardly rejecting the nature of reality.

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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: Veritas]
    #9517419 - 12/30/08 11:06 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You set the goal and then take the path of least resistance to achieve the goal.

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    #9517471 - 12/30/08 11:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Still a misunderstanding of Taoism, IMO.  It's not about difficulty of circumstances, it's about eliminating one's inner resistance to the nature of said circumstances.

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    #9517533 - 12/30/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, I am not really familiar with taoism, I just was trying to say that it doesn't mean to choose the laziest path in life.

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    #9517715 - 12/30/08 12:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Rather than me misunderstanding taoism, I think you're misunderstanding the definition of "path of least resistance".

If I were referring to the same thing you are, I would just do heroin in an abandoned house until I died.

but whatever
This thread is pretty lame.


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: LSDXM]
    #9517747 - 12/30/08 12:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

OK, what is your application of this phrase?  If you are applying it to outward circumstances, I think that you might be misunderstanding Taoism.

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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: Veritas]
    #9517784 - 12/30/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

"The path of least resistance", as I understand it, would imply acceptance of the most necessary/pertinent path relating to the current situation

In other words, bitter vinegar is sweet because it's supposed to be bitter, or, studying is awesome because it gets you where you wanna go.


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Re: Tao Te Ching [Re: LSDXM]
    #9517866 - 12/30/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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What the fuck are you talking about?




Me? I am not the one not making sense. Please explain how these four completely different concepts 'current/energy/creative force/oneness' meld into an understandable term?

If someone attacks me I should just 'go with it' or fight for my life according to what you just wrote?


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