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damoke
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Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style
#9512376 - 12/29/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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So, Ive decided to put the super soaker idea to the test with a little experiment.
I've been collecting Pan. cyan's (also some subbs, few and far between) from the pasture/gulch behind my house for a couple months now with average results (maybe 150g fresh a go). Anyway, I would like to increase my yield the next time we get some more rain.
Sooooo, next time I go hunting, I plan on bringing a super soaker and some extra water with me and I guess i will tap caps into the mix as i find them and on the way back (is a pretty linear hunt) spray around. Any input on my methodology is welcome, if you know a better way please tell.
Ill post my results in after the next rain.
PS: Would a mixture of salt and rice work as a desiccant? I've been fan drying, but usually they're still not dry after 2 days and that last time some got mold because its pretty humid.
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German Kahuna
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: damoke]
#9512413 - 12/29/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd spore print the caps if I were you. Then, when you are ready to use the super soaker, fill a bucket or whatever with as much water as the super soaker will hold. Then scrape the spores from the prints into the bucket, stir and soak back up. Now, if you want to see better results, I'd make an unreal amount of liquid culture out of those spore prints and dump it all in a bucket and stir the living shit out of it. Then load it up into the super soaker and shoot live mycelium everywhere!
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: German Kahuna]
#9512456 - 12/29/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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also try spreading out manure
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MUSH HEAD420
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: German Kahuna]
#9513039 - 12/29/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: I'd spore print the caps if I were you. Then, when you are ready to use the super soaker, fill a bucket or whatever with as much water as the super soaker will hold. Then scrape the spores from the prints into the bucket, stir and soak back up. Now, if you want to see better results, I'd make an unreal amount of liquid culture out of those spore prints and dump it all in a bucket and stir the living shit out of it. Then load it up into the super soaker and shoot live mycelium everywhere!
wow .....never thought about doin that!!!! does it work?:)
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weiliiiiiii
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#9513251 - 12/29/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is not a new method, ive heard about it being done many times
Edited by weiliiiiiii (12/29/08 04:45 PM)
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German Kahuna
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#9513402 - 12/29/08 05:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: Now, if you want to see better results, I'd make an unreal amount of liquid culture out of those spore prints and dump it all in a bucket and stir the living shit out of it. Then load it up into the super soaker and shoot live mycelium everywhere!
wow .....never thought about doin that!!!! does it work?:)
It most definitely will. Aim at cow or horse droppings in the pastures and come back later. Given the right weather conditions - Result!
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German Kahuna
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9513426 - 12/29/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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weiliiiiiii said: this is not a new method, ive heard about it being done many times
Funny that you say that, because I've never read about it anywhere. It just occurred to me as the one most logical thing to do if you wanted to spread a dung lover in its natural habitat as quickly as possible.
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: German Kahuna]
#9513500 - 12/29/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like an inefficient method to me. For one tapping caps into water isn't going to release a great deal of spores and even using whole sporeprints there is still a good deal of work walking around visiting all those cowpats. Still it may have a high enough success rate to make it worthwhile, I've never tried it. What I do is hang a few shrooms in some tree branches so the breezes spread the released spores over the whole area.
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: damoke]
#9513510 - 12/29/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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PS: Would a mixture of salt and rice work as a desiccant? I've been fan drying, but usually they're still not dry after 2 days and that last time some got mold because its pretty humid.
Probably not.
Do you have an air conditioner?, they lower the humidity. Good place to dry small mushrooms is in the refrigerator in a paper bag or outside the refrigerator above the heat exchange coils on screening, the coils heat the air some and create some air movement.
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: mycot]
#9513554 - 12/29/08 05:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycot said: Sounds like an inefficient method to me. For one tapping caps into water isn't going to release a great deal of spores and even using whole sporeprints there is still a good deal of work walking around visiting all those cowpats. Still it may have a high enough success rate to make it worthwhile, I've never tried it. What I do is hang a few shrooms in some tree branches so the breezes spread the released spores over the whole area.
Dude, did you read the liquid culture part? Do you know what a liquid culture is? It's not hard to produce in large quantities at all. You can even clone your favorite little bastard instead of using multispore and hell, yes, that would work just fine and if you have cow pastures at your disposal to use as playing grounds, that's way easier than cultivating them at home. Maybe not all will make it, but hey, if you shoot up a couple of hundred cow patties... who cares? Plus you get all the fun from talking a walk shooting mycelium at cow droppings with a super soaker. Now beat that!
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: damoke]
#9513640 - 12/29/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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smokdatkush
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9513942 - 12/29/08 06:49 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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weiliiiiiii said: this is not a new method, ive heard about it being done many times
deffenitaly an old idea , hell i been trying to get you to do that for florida for years ....
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: damoke]
#9514301 - 12/29/08 08:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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damoke said: So, Ive decided to put the super soaker idea to the test with a little experiment.
I've been collecting Pan. cyan's (also some subbs, few and far between) from the pasture/gulch behind my house for a couple months now with average results (maybe 150g fresh a go). Anyway, I would like to increase my yield the next time we get some more rain.
Sooooo, next time I go hunting, I plan on bringing a super soaker and some extra water with me and I guess i will tap caps into the mix as i find them and on the way back (is a pretty linear hunt) spray around. Any input on my methodology is welcome, if you know a better way please tell.
Ill post my results in after the next rain.
PS: Would a mixture of salt and rice work as a desiccant? I've been fan drying, but usually they're still not dry after 2 days and that last time some got mold because its pretty humid.
Psychically will the spores to another area. I use this one all the time. It's a no miss.
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mycot
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9536149 - 01/03/09 03:28 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kahuna, I did read the liquid culture part but my post was not addressing that. Sorry about the misunderstanding. I imagine it would be more efficient than using spore-water and possibly blending up a shroom with some water in a blender may also work. For many folks though they want to get in and out of a field as quickly as possible and definitely would not want to be sprung with a super-soaker of any sort.
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4 ho cultivar
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: mycot]
#9536170 - 01/03/09 03:54 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've got a couple horse pastures in my backyard. I'm just gonna do parts no one can see me....
best way would be to just use quart jars and get as many as possible.
8 quarts is 2 gallons and thats a lot of super soaker spray.
I'm definitely going to do it if all works out. peace
g. kahuna. just injected like probably i'd guess 20 quarts of stuff{grains,coir,brf cake} the gammet I knocked up as much as I could. I even did a couple pyrex baking dishes with brf,verm,coir,coffee and gypsum and some shot glasses for fun....
NOW WE WAIT
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: 4 ho cultivar]
#9538213 - 01/03/09 02:56 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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you inoculated these with non-sterile wild spores?
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: canid]
#9538257 - 01/03/09 03:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Naw, that was just a comment towards me regarding two cubensis spore prints I sent him after his last project went tits up due to contams. So far everything seems
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: German Kahuna]
#9538302 - 01/03/09 03:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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ah, i get you.
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: canid]
#9538382 - 01/03/09 03:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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canid said: you inoculated these with non-sterile wild spores?
that's the thing I don't understand about cultivation from a wild strain. How would one obtain a sterile print?
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: Beege]
#9538436 - 01/03/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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agar>grain>fruit>paper
ive had luck using wild prints, doing multispore. the less spores u use from the print, the less chance of there being contamn spores in with the mushroom ones.
make a shitload of syringes only filled with 1CC, and only use little scrapings from various places on the print.
eventually u will hit a spot where theres no contaminants in the print and get a good culture.
but yeah, agar work is easier.
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: Beege]
#9538448 - 01/03/09 03:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't. It's not necessary, either. No wild print is sterile. Not even the print of a cultivated mushroom is. That's were agar work comes to play. You use multiple petri dishes and transfer some spores from the print onto them. Then you isolate some wedges that seem to be harboring only clean mycelium and transfer them to another fresh petri dish. Once you see only healthy mycelium growth, you transfer that to a spawn substrate and then to a bulk substrate from there after the has been spawn fully colonized.
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Edited by German Kahuna (01/03/09 03:44 PM)
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: CptnGarden]
#9538489 - 01/03/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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i've done successful mustispore inoculations from wild prints, but i don't make syringes or any liquid inoculant when doing so, a small scraping of spore deposit can work, though you will still have high contam rates, and i still inoculate to agar.
making a syringe from a dirty print is just distributing contaminant germ evenly throughout the inoculant medium.
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: MUSH HEAD420]
#9538540 - 01/03/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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MUSH HEAD420 said:
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German Kahuna said: I'd spore print the caps if I were you. Then, when you are ready to use the super soaker, fill a bucket or whatever with as much water as the super soaker will hold. Then scrape the spores from the prints into the bucket, stir and soak back up. Now, if you want to see better results, I'd make an unreal amount of liquid culture out of those spore prints and dump it all in a bucket and stir the living shit out of it. Then load it up into the super soaker and shoot live mycelium everywhere!
wow .....never thought about doin that!!!! does it work?:)
Yes it absolutely works!!! It is the only way to explain the outbreak of friscosas in the parking lots that are within 5 miles from here
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Re: Super Soaker Spore Spreader: Maui Style [Re: tahoe]
#9538564 - 01/03/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tahoe said:
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MUSH HEAD420 said:
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German Kahuna said: I'd spore print the caps if I were you. Then, when you are ready to use the super soaker, fill a bucket or whatever with as much water as the super soaker will hold. Then scrape the spores from the prints into the bucket, stir and soak back up. Now, if you want to see better results, I'd make an unreal amount of liquid culture out of those spore prints and dump it all in a bucket and stir the living shit out of it. Then load it up into the super soaker and shoot live mycelium everywhere!
wow .....never thought about doin that!!!! does it work?:)
Yes it absolutely works!!! It is the only way to explain the outbreak of friscosas in the parking lots that are within 5 miles from here
ARRRRR!!!
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