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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Ledd]
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lol???little confused was this like a burn?
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: hamandcheese]
#9512399 - 12/29/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamandcheese said: If you really want the laws changed hand write letter to your congressmen, state government etc. I know you all think that Obama should respond to the questions asked and voted for, on this site, he will change very little if at all the federal government's stance on this issue. and the website doesn't represent the general populace, it represents a specific demographic. you have a much better chance of "having your voice heard" writing a thoughtful handwritten letter to a state rep than you do voting on a website. sure it may take a bit more effort but if this is an issue you truly care about then you should put forth that extra effort.
I agree with your suggestion to write in. But if I may diverge onto a related tangent - This isn't about expecting immediate change my friend. This is about keeping consistent pressure on ALL available avenues that may help lead to more sensible government policies in the long run. Though it may seem that some question on a website poll is not going to affect any real change, it is still something that can be referenced and pointed to in future efforts to procure the same positive change. It is a small step, but it is still a step.
Over the last year I have called and written to my representatives, senators, governator, president and various government officials such as the Treasury secretary and the head of the SEC numerous times. Maybe it will do some good and maybe it won't. But that potential for good is by default excluded when we resign ourselves to inaction and apathy. What's a few minutes of our time anyway? Try to create some positive change. You may not be entirely successful, but at least you will have given it an honest effort.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: jackshroomer]
#9512420 - 12/29/08 01:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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jackshroomer said: im not even gonna take my time to say why this is pointless. id rather ask obama who barry saetoro or however the fuck u spell it. and where the fuck his birth certificate is. and why hes a legal citizen on Indonesia and not America? fuck weed. its pretty much legal anyway.
As long as Obama is a good president, i could care less about his past. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands arrested every year for it, don't say idiotic shit. It's bigger then pot, it's your own liberty to do what you want with your body.
By the way, his mother was from the US, so he is a dual citizen.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: doom876]
#9512436 - 12/29/08 01:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't care if someone from the U.S. runs the country or not, what difference does that make? As long as they're a fucking human I think that's qualification enough. Just cause I was born on this piece of land I don't consider myself to 'belong' here more than anyone else.
I'm not saying their shouldn't be mental qualifications and such, but who cares where the vagina was located when you popped out of it?
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: krypto2000]
#9512443 - 12/29/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not saying their shouldn't be mental qualifications and such, but who cares where the vagina was located when you popped out of it?
Wow, you're smart for a yankee.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: geokills]
#9512449 - 12/29/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamandcheese said: If you really want the laws changed hand write letter to your congressmen, state government etc. I know you all think that Obama should respond to the questions asked and voted for, on this site, he will change very little if at all the federal government's stance on this issue. and the website doesn't represent the general populace, it represents a specific demographic. you have a much better chance of "having your voice heard" writing a thoughtful handwritten letter to a state rep than you do voting on a website. sure it may take a bit more effort but if this is an issue you truly care about then you should put forth that extra effort.
I agree with your suggestion to write in. But if I may diverge onto a related tangent - This isn't about expecting immediate change my friend. This is about keeping consistent pressure on ALL available avenues that may help lead to more sensible government policies in the long run. Though it may seem that some question on a website poll is not going to affect any real change, it is still something that can be referenced and pointed to in future efforts to procure the same positive change. It is a small step, but it is still a step.
Over the last year I have called and written to my representatives, senators, governator, president and various government officials such as the Treasury secretary and the head of the SEC numerous times. Maybe it will do some good and maybe it won't. But that potential for good is by default excluded when we resign ourselves to inaction and apathy. What's a few minutes of our time anyway? Try to create some positive change. You may not be entirely successful, but at least you will have given it an honest effort.
Download the attached MP3 for on-point tunage.
i'm not suggest you don't use this avenue that has been presented, i just don't want people to site back and click a few buttons and think they have done somethin signifigant to help support this cause. the people who look reveiw the question know full well what demographic this is targeted at. If you use more "traditional" methods you are more like to be viewed as a part of a broader demographic. write formally, and in cursive if you can, if not just make sure its neat.
also "governator"
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: dead]
#9512462 - 12/29/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not saying their shouldn't be mental qualifications and such, but who cares where the vagina was located when you popped out of it?
Wow, you're smart for a yankee.
Its not where, but who owns that "where". McCain was born in the country of Panama after all, on a base or something, if he can run then anyone from Panama should be able to. US politics, you fail.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: krypto2000]
#9512486 - 12/29/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: hamandcheese]
#9512502 - 12/29/08 02:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel like if I were to write a letter to anyone they'd throw it out w/o looking at it even, and if they were to look at it they'd throw it out before finishing it once they read what I was getting at (marijuana decriminalization).
My thought is just that democracy doesn't exist. We vote people into office who have ideas that go along with ours. If there is a, for instance, governor who is against marijuana legalization and I write him a letter now he's just a governor who is against marijuana legalization who knows there is one more citizen who disagrees with him. What does he care for? Maybe if 80% of people wanted marijuana legalized/decriminalized and his campaign were riding on it, but it's not, and it won't be anytime soon.
I don't really think people get elected to office based on what issues they care about. Depending on the time period there's 3 or 4 hot button issues. Everyone generally takes the same stance, though they act like it's different. McCain says 'In afghanistan we'll do x to combat the terrorists.' Obama says 'In afghanistan we'll do y to combat the terrorists, see my plans better than McCains.'
The point behind both messages: 'We're not getting out of Iraq anytime soon, terrorism is spreading, you are all helpless and must put all trust in me, give me power please'
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: hamandcheese]
#9512509 - 12/29/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamandcheese said: If you really want the laws changed hand write letter to your congressmen, state government etc.
send me a letter and I can toss it in the trash and pretend it never came, show up at my door and it's harder to ignore you, show up with a thousand people in my front yard and I certainly cant blow you off as if you're unimportant
this battle against government takes on many facets, you need to contact your elected reps by every channel available, a simple phone call, a short letter, stop by his office but dont stop with a single person, you need to work it from the top tot he bottom, all the way to the city council in your town and then work back up that chain, you want them to remember that you're not going away, that it's because of you that they are in office today and it's because of you that they may not be in office tomorrow
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: doom876]
#9512512 - 12/29/08 02:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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doom876 said: McCain was born in the country of Panama after all, on a base or something, if he can run then anyone from Panama should be able to. US politics, you fail.
some one born on a military base, as a brat, i QUITE different than "anyone from panama"
IF you can't fathom the reasons why someone born on foreign land to a foreigner should not be able to run America. and if you fail to see the distinction between those people and someone born to military personnel on a military base. (I am making no specific claims about any specific individual in case you are too dense to grasp that)
what happened to civility? P#1
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: krypto2000]
#9512520 - 12/29/08 02:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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His VP and AG are anti drug fanatics. Does that answer your question? Look for more of the same like what we got from shrub and from clinton.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: krypto2000]
#9512544 - 12/29/08 02:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I don't care if someone from the U.S. runs the country or not, what difference does that make?
a piece of paper called the constitution is why it's important, should we ignore one part in favor of another or demand that we have those rights enumerated by the constitution for all citizens, as it stands they're ignoring many of our rights yet you're willing to trade one right for another?
I'd rather have all my rights
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: hamandcheese]
#9512555 - 12/29/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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whoops...
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512558 - 12/29/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I don't care if someone from the U.S. runs the country or not, what difference does that make?
a piece of paper called the constitution is why it's important, should we ignore one part in favor of another or demand that we have those rights enumerated by the constitution for all citizens, as it stands they're ignoring many of our rights yet you're willing to trade one right for another?
I'd rather have all my rights
I'd rather get rid of the constitution so I'd have 'all rights' and not be limited to just the 10.
The government, by definition, doesn't give rights, they take em away. As far as I'm concerned I was born with the right to do w/e I want, I just gotta deal with the consequences of my actions.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512560 - 12/29/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamandcheese said: If you really want the laws changed hand write letter to your congressmen, state government etc.
send me a letter and I can toss it in the trash and pretend it never came, show up at my door and it's harder to ignore you, show up with a thousand people in my front yard and I certainly cant blow you off as if you're unimportant
this battle against government takes on many facets, you need to contact your elected reps by every channel available, a simple phone call, a short letter, stop by his office but dont stop with a single person, you need to work it from the top tot he bottom, all the way to the city council in your town and then work back up that chain, you want them to remember that you're not going away, that it's because of you that they are in office today and it's because of you that they may not be in office tomorrow
right on! i shouldn't have sold you guys short. i was merely suggesting one other way to support this cause. one that any one can do, quite easily. by all means take it to the next level if you're committed. i would gladly join me fellow smokers in paying my goverment officals a visit to "discuss" this issue.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: krypto2000]
#9512570 - 12/29/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I'd rather get rid of the constitution so I'd have 'all rights' and not be limited to just the 10.
The government doesn't give me rights, they take em away. As far as I'm concerned I was born with the right to do w/e I want, I just gotta deal with the consequences of my actions.
you believe that you'd gain rights by disposing of the constitution? I see just the opposite, call me crazy but...
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9512575 - 12/29/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, disposing of the government. The constitution is just a piece of paper.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: doom876]
#9512586 - 12/29/08 02:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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As long as Obama is a good president, i could care less about his past. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands arrested every year for it, don't say idiotic shit. It's bigger then pot, it's your own liberty to do what you want with your body.
By the way, his mother was from the US, so he is a dual citizen.
hey fuck u . tell me why this man went from being a citizen of indonesia with a good ole american name like barry soetoro. to barack hussien obama. and why he failed to let anyone know about this unitl it was leaked. and then they made a fake birth certificate. yea. hes gonna be ggrrreaatt. and dont give me this liberty of ur body shit. its not bigger than pot. its actualy just as simple as pot. im gonna smoke regardless. if u are gonna let someone tell u that u cant smoke thats ur deal. i got my liberties.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: krypto2000]
#9512601 - 12/29/08 02:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only thing you really need to be a successful candidate for any office:
Enough money Choose the popular religion Have a pretty face Have friends higher than yourself Tell good lies
word. also why i dont vote. they are all shit bags and area ll gonna do the same shit
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