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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Almond Flour]
#9530516 - 01/02/09 01:55 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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you nonbelievers...
he's right on many counts, Obama said he was going to change washington, that he was against the washington insiders yet for his cabinet he's selecting those very same people he claimed to be against
read up on the man that america elected and those he's appointing many are former clinton staffers, seems this change is more of the same
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/obama-picking-washington-insiders-for-cabinet-despite-promising-change
For his health secretary he selected Tom Daschle, his wife is a lobbyist and as opposed to a medical or health degree he instead comes to us with a degree in political science, former intel officer for the Strategic Air Command and 20 years under his belt as a politician http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94IIPN00&show_article=1
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9530586 - 01/02/09 02:17 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Almond Flour]
#9530890 - 01/02/09 05:25 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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obama's a dick
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Roker]
#9531185 - 01/02/09 08:21 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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he is fundamentally different
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9531325 - 01/02/09 09:28 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: you nonbelievers...
he's right on many counts, Obama said he was going to change washington, that he was against the washington insiders yet for his cabinet he's selecting those very same people he claimed to be against
read up on the man that america elected and those he's appointing many are former clinton staffers, seems this change is more of the same
http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/obama-picking-washington-insiders-for-cabinet-despite-promising-change
For his health secretary he selected Tom Daschle, his wife is a lobbyist and as opposed to a medical or health degree he instead comes to us with a degree in political science, former intel officer for the Strategic Air Command and 20 years under his belt as a politician http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94IIPN00&show_article=1
I agree with you on several points, but I'm hoping he will still fulfill his other promises even though his marijuana/drug policies are seemingly extremely dismal so far.
He can still do a lot of good for the country by ending the war in Iraq and establishing a better international face for the US. Plus, I would CERTAINLY rather have Obama than McCain/Palin. :shudder:
I don't think he's immovable on the marijuana/drug issue, we just have to put enough pressure on him to see that he needs to keep his promises.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Beege]
#9532070 - 01/02/09 01:13 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Try doing anything on a national scale without the support of the people and you will fail.
Much of our population disagrees with drug users.
It's much more simple than a conspiracy theory will ever make it.
Remember Lincoln didn't free the slaves until it was politically possible.
What's possible is possible, what's not is not.
Take your energy and use it for something practical!
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Freedom]
#9532092 - 01/02/09 01:18 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Freedom said: Much of our population disagrees with drug users.
incorrect, about 70% of the people nation wide support decriminalization measures
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9532119 - 01/02/09 01:26 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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ONCE AGAIN FOR YOU GUYS THAT DIDNT READ:
OBAMA RUNS WITH JOE BIDEN, SPONSOR OF THE RAVE ACT, A BLATANT VIOLATION OF OUR CIVIL RIGHTS WHICH HE SNEAKILY AND MANIPULATIVELY TRIED TO PUSH ONTO CONGRESS. THANKS TO EFFORTS INVOLVING THE ACLU, THIS DIDNT GET FAR. THEY ARE TIED INTO THE DRUG WAR AND NWO. DONT BOTHER.
-------------------- But Jimi was feeling good - he'd shared some LSD with a friend, Herbert Worthington, who sat and watched him from the side: 'Jimi started singing "Spanish Castle Magic" and I was high, I was so happy, probably one of the happiest times of my life, being with an Angel [Jimi] and having a woman on each arm. I just went into an LSD laugh.' Jimi looked over to Herbert, realised that he too was peaking out on acid, tried to say something to Herbie, but it wouldn't come out. - Jimi Hendrix "Electric Gypsy"
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: methoxy]
#9532140 - 01/02/09 01:31 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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not bothering is not caring and would make us personally responsible for the drug war instead of victims of it.
regardless of who the VP is we need to impress upon the president the importance of decriminalization.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- *DELETED* [Re: methoxy]
#9532155 - 01/02/09 01:35 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Ferris]
#9532184 - 01/02/09 01:41 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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^^^what he said.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Beege]
#9532436 - 01/02/09 02:40 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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You guys are fooled thinking Obama is going to change things. He isn't going to change shit. This was all a ploy to get a negro into office. A really bad scary negro who will probably get us nuked by NK or attacked by terrorists. A bad person that does support the war on drugs.
Imagine this scary shit:
Say that they finally prove Obama is not a US born natural citizen, then his presidency is annulled and JOE BIDEN TAKES THE FUCKING SEAT
we would be in even more trouble then
you shut the fuck up. face the facts - we're fucked.
-------------------- But Jimi was feeling good - he'd shared some LSD with a friend, Herbert Worthington, who sat and watched him from the side: 'Jimi started singing "Spanish Castle Magic" and I was high, I was so happy, probably one of the happiest times of my life, being with an Angel [Jimi] and having a woman on each arm. I just went into an LSD laugh.' Jimi looked over to Herbert, realised that he too was peaking out on acid, tried to say something to Herbie, but it wouldn't come out. - Jimi Hendrix "Electric Gypsy"
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: methoxy]
#9532530 - 01/02/09 03:04 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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ok kids... 2 things, settle down, this should be a positive discussion, not a bunch of kids trying to one up each other with put downs
second, methoxy, what's it really matter if the man is black
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9532731 - 01/02/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Freedom said: Much of our population disagrees with drug users.
incorrect, about 70% of the people nation wide support decriminalization measures
it depends on how you ask the question in the polls
and those that disaprove really disaprove. that's why it will be a political fight.
there is a video of obama taking about decriminalization. he doesn't say how he personally feels about it in the video, but he specifically states that he won't spend the political capital on it when there are wars and the economy to think about.
even though I want drugs decriminalized, I would be horrified if Obama tried to make them legal, because it would only polarize the white house vs. the conservative congress, and nothing would get done, when we really need to do a lot.
make it easier for the politicians to pass drug legalization by informing your fellow citizens. undo the demonization and then it will be possible.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Freedom]
#9532787 - 01/02/09 04:06 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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many of this demonization is coming from the government itself. I myself have encountered stiff resistance when trying to inform my fellow man and all due to government propaganda on the subject.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Freedom]
#9532915 - 01/02/09 04:30 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Freedom said: he specifically states that he won't spend the political capital on it when there are wars and the economy to think about.
political capital? is he saying it'll cost him his credibility as an empty suit?
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make it easier for the politicians to pass drug legalization by informing your fellow citizens. undo the demonization and then it will be possible.
well how you gonna get the word out to the general public if you dont bring it to their attention, I've already mentioned the ways to get the ball rolling and why dont we stop all this nonsense about decriminalization, because under that guise it's still punishable by a fine, something still shows up on your record, they still take your marijuana, you just eliminate jail time
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- *DELETED* [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9532948 - 01/02/09 04:37 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Ferris]
#9533111 - 01/02/09 05:10 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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political capital? is he saying it'll cost him his credibility as an empty suit?
No, to get the 99% of the congressman who would vote against it though to vote for it, he would have to sell the farm
the farm has already been sold, well, foreclosed on because of the Ag bills that required farmers to over machine their production, now instead of a rock solid tractor they have a mortgage up to their eyeballs, a payment on a combine and a new tractor that was far more than needed, this was to get the 'grant' that didnt have to be paid back but couldnt be used to pay on the equipment he was forced to buy
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bring in every favor, and spend time that should be spent, I don't know, repairing the economy and other damage from Bush
lets not blame bush for the problems that started with the Clinton administration, NAFTA and the Grahm-Leach-Bliley Act had nothng to do with bush, they did how ever come from a congress under the clinton administration. Anyway how exactly will he be repairing something that he's a contributor to the failing of, sign a few bills that allow for more high paid executives to get richer off the working man, more crap to keep the politicians from losing money on their investments while the rest of us struggle to get by?
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to say, divert the world from it's current path of imminent destruction.
lol... empty suit will be sending 30k more troops to the middle east, apparently he plans on bringing them some more democracy
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"if you don't send me that bill, I'll shut down the government, because that's all the government really does anyways, and who cares about keeping old people from freezing to death in there homes, when we can just send them to hell with a nice fat doobie?"
the man doesnt have that kind of power, Speaker of The House may and being that it's democrats in both chambers and the oval office, he has too much power now
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9533210 - 01/02/09 05:32 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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I was being a bit more metaphorical with the term 'farm.'
He may not be able to do much about the economy, but he'll be expected to devote his time looking like he is doing something about it. When that calms down, he'll have to spend the next 3 years on foreign policy, the true domain of the executive branch. And that IS the fault of Bush, unquestionably.
And Obama could conceivable shut down the government if he wanted by vetoing every budget.. it happens in California every single year recently. I'm not saying he would though, that was sort of the point.
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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Ferris]
#9533310 - 01/02/09 05:48 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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obama's not an empty suit, neither was gore, neither was bush.
consensus requires comprimise, often times painful.
to lead, the president has to be skillful at comprimise. Parts of our culture are terrified of drugs. This has nothing to do with obama except that he sees them and is wise enough not to pick a fight with them.
obama is the only person to run for president who see's things from many sides. not your side, not my side, and not only his own side. He has displayed an ability to not only see others perspectives, but to not trash that perspective. to accept it even if he does not believe it.
Personally I have been waiting for that for a long time.
it is not some idealized president that is going to change the law. it's going to be people like you and me, normal citizens that happen to use drugs. we will change the law by changing the culture and society first. If you have credibility amongst your family, friends and colleagues, tell them you don't think drugs should be illegal. Better yet tell them you've been using drugs responsibly for years. We keep it a secret and the only thing we succede in doing is ostricizing ourselves.
no magic fairy is going to come down and legalize drugs for us. Not even ron pual!
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