Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Original Sensible Seeds High THC Strains   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Invisibleohmatic
searcher
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/28/04
Posts: 6,742
Loc: europe
Trusted Cultivator
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: THEDANGLER]
    #4044367 - 04/12/05 04:28 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

THEDANGLER said:
their are spores out their that can survive pressure cooking im sure theirs a couple species that can survive h202




this is not corrects, its certain ENDOspores on/in grains that
can survive the pc.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


--------------------
:penis: MONOTUB tek :sun: HEATBOMB tek :penis:

RIP #cultivation! ....can't associate? well FUCK U !


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTHEDANGLER
The Mushroom Tip
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 312
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: ohmatic]
    #4044771 - 04/12/05 08:24 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

their are bacteira found in the marrianas (sp) trench that are under extreme pressure on little volcanos donw their...shit a fucking pc would be to cold for them..


--------------------
TONS OF SPORES TO TRADE PM ME!!!!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTHEDANGLER
The Mushroom Tip
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 312
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: THEDANGLER]
    #4044787 - 04/12/05 08:31 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

check it...http://www.marinetech.org/nine_degrees/index.php

403degrees on the ocean floor...aka more then you 15psi


--------------------
TONS OF SPORES TO TRADE PM ME!!!!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTHEDANGLER
The Mushroom Tip
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 312
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: THEDANGLER]
    #4044797 - 04/12/05 08:34 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

thats not really what i said in the original post..about spores...i ment to say all contams..bacteria mold..what ever...im just saying bacteria evolve so fast their IS some bacteria or mold out their were spore or what ever will survive a diluted peroxide solution..


--------------------
TONS OF SPORES TO TRADE PM ME!!!!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMindzpore
Psychedelicious
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 319
Loc: Reject the concept of loc...
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: THEDANGLER] * 1
    #4044995 - 04/12/05 09:54 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

THEDANGLER said:
yeah but what if their is a couple spores that arnt destroyed...aka they evolve....nothing is impossible..




evolution does not work like that.

methods of sterilization as they are today are usually far more powerful than they actually need to be to just kill the contaminants. and why? to prevent the kind of evolution that your talking about.

the specifics of the organisms are set from their conception, and are NOT going to suddenly start to evolve/change in the pc (or h2o2). how evolution works is that if there is one bacteria/spore that is just a little bit more hardy than the others AND you do a botch sterilization... and that spore/bacteria survive. then its descendants/clones will share that "slightly more hardy" trait. and maby one out of a million of them again have a slight increase of hardiness.

so the type of evolution of pathogens and contaminants that you seem to refer to are the result of human idiocy, misuse of antibiotics, sloppy sterilization etc. do your job right, and there is no "bad" evolution.


--------------------
Mindzpores words of wisdom:
"If you think something is foolproof, you just haven't met proper fools".

Wiccan_Seeker said:
"It is better to adjust to become a better listener than to keep on cranking up the volume".


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTHEDANGLER
The Mushroom Tip
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 312
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: Mindzpore]
    #4046199 - 04/12/05 01:59 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

yeah I'm talking theoretically over time..hows does peroxide kill spores? yes you are right about evolution, I'm just saying their are organisms that can survive pressure cooking and i think their has to be some spore out their some were that can survive a little peroxide...please tell me how peroxide kills spores if your so smart..


--------------------
TONS OF SPORES TO TRADE PM ME!!!!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMindzpore
Psychedelicious
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 319
Loc: Reject the concept of loc...
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: THEDANGLER]
    #4049167 - 04/13/05 05:16 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

h2o2 is a water molecule with an extra oxygen. this is not a stable compound, and the extra oxygen is very eager to get away and reacts to almost anything it can...

now I'm not entirely sure, but unless my memory fails me. the way h2o2 kills single cell entities is by destroying its cell membrane (by hyperoxidisation of course).


--------------------
Mindzpores words of wisdom:
"If you think something is foolproof, you just haven't met proper fools".

Wiccan_Seeker said:
"It is better to adjust to become a better listener than to keep on cranking up the volume".


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinerungi
journeymana

Registered: 07/11/01
Posts: 212
Last seen: 15 years, 1 month
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: ohmatic]
    #9489468 - 12/24/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Will the hot temperature kill or mutate the mycelium?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleshroomophile
ShroomitusFidelis
Male User Gallery


Registered: 08/20/02
Posts: 762
Loc: USA
Re: antibiotic agar [Re: THEDANGLER]
    #9491340 - 12/24/08 10:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

THEDANGLER said:
yah well what if your peroxide perduces a resistant strain...ever think of that? the plates were poured in a glove box..



A oxidizer is a oxidizer.However,as we see with bleach,a few spores,germs,virus can survive.It makes it hard if 998,343 spores dies out of a hundred thousand.Not much to breed with.Peroxidated agar is best left to cultures.Gentamyicen sulfate will go thru the autoclave for the antibiotic end.


--------------------
Once the mighty oak,was a nut who held his ground.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Original Sensible Seeds High THC Strains   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Agar: Isolation from molds... ATWAR 7,194 13 07/23/04 10:27 PM
by ATWAR
* Post deleted by MOE THE MAD SCIENTIST phreedom 2,663 8 12/27/02 06:28 AM
by cheesenoonions
* honey's natural peroxide? creamcorn 2,434 6 03/27/06 04:04 PM
by ALHOFF177A17
* Need suggestions about peroxidated agar CLuB99 1,502 4 08/11/01 04:18 PM
by Anno
* Agar and Materials forevrgrounded98 1,791 12 05/07/04 01:57 AM
by ATWAR
* Penicillin and streptomycin in agar AnnoA 4,179 19 06/03/04 02:59 PM
by YidakiMan
* Gentamicin use in Agar. Alegalize 5,802 6 03/29/22 04:03 PM
by Cosmic_Cube
* Save contaminated spores with agar ? tomldp 3,548 9 04/10/02 05:34 PM
by ParticleMan

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: RogerRabbit, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
6,866 topic views. 1 members, 7 guests and 1 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 15 queries.