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Offlinebradbrad
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cobweb mold
    #948890 - 10/10/02 10:32 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

what is cob web mold? how do you get it? how can you tell the difference between that and mycelium? can
anyone post pics of cobweb mold on casings?


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #948939 - 10/10/02 10:49 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

You get it from not being sterile enough, either in your preparation of the casing material, or you environment is not sterile enough. Cobweb mold looks just like that, a cobweb, its much more "whispy" than mycelium, and it is grey in color, not white like mycelium. Go to the contamination forum to see pictures of cobweb mold.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: Skikid16]
    #948957 - 10/10/02 10:55 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

does cobweb mold smell bad? will shrooms still grow on it?


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #948972 - 10/10/02 10:59 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

I think it smell kinda like faint magic marker or new shoes, I guess I'm not very good at discribing smells, but it definitly has a smell different from mycelium. I don't know if shrooms will grow from it, cause usually whenever anything got cobweb mold, it would be transfered to an outdoor patch.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #949390 - 10/10/02 12:45 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

usually you will get the cobweb in casings and not in jars-

you will be able to tell the difference usually because cobweb is grey and not white


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
    #950650 - 10/10/02 08:13 PM (19 years, 16 days ago)

I'll just tack my query on to this thread instead of starting the 5000th thread on cobweb :laugh:

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usually you will get the cobweb in casings and not in jars-
you will be able to tell the difference usually because cobweb is grey and not white




Hmm, it can be tough for newbs like myself to differentiate between cobweb and mycellium.  I've been reading this forum for ages now and studying and collecting pics, and it seems that some cobweb *is* white.  Check the sticky topic (Contam FAQ) at the top of this forum for some examples. 

I can't get syringes with needles over here, so I had to innoculate my jars with (don't laugh) an ear dropper, which I squirted some boiling water through to try and sterilise.  I knew this wouldn't be ideal, but have no alternative until I can get a syringe needle. 

Anyway, one of my jars started to stink, and looked very gray, and when I lifted the foil (I have to use foil for a lid) I could see the cobweb growing right through my dry Verm layer!  So I chucked it into the back garden.  The rest of the jars, though, were looking more promising.  They had bright white spots on them, which have spread more now, but which are starting to look sort of furry and wispy.  So I now can't figure out if they're white cobweb mold, or rhyzomorphic mycellium!! 

Some of this stuff is again growing through the dry verm layer.  Would mycellium do that? 

I wish someone would finish off the contam FAQ, it would be very useful to have a lot of high-quality close-up images of mycellium and rhizomorphic mycellium to compare with the contam pics. 


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #950742 - 10/10/02 08:39 PM (19 years, 16 days ago)

This is the pic that's making it harder for me to tell cobweb from mycellium!



That's kind of how my jars look now, but those little strands in the centre of the jar (i.e. at the far left of the mycellium) are kind of furry, whereas in this pic they seem to be ropey.

Any thoughts?  Am I growing shrooms, or mold?  :confused:


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #951455 - 10/11/02 12:11 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

That looks like good rizo growth. Not cobweb. Seldom do you ever see cobweb in a jar. It usualy occurs on - around cakes & casings.

It is wispy like thin spun cotton candy. Have you ever seen dog crap after a rain that began to get white/gray wispy hairy looking fuzz growing off it? That is what cobweb looks like.

It's crap you cannot get syringe needles. It would not be a great task to fabricate one out of tiny stainless steel tubing or tiny pipe. Even if it was larger bore than 19 or 20 gauge, it would be better than an eye dropper.

Sounds like you should get some millet based bird seed going & learn grain to grain transfers. You will have spawn running out the gazoo, once you learn that.

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Re: cobweb mold [Re: SixTango]
    #951463 - 10/11/02 12:13 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

I find cobweb also forms on the surface of the substrate first, atleast that`s how I spot it.

Also, you recommend g2g Six Tango, I`m constantly advertising honey water innocultaions over syringes and g2g.
You scrape your spores straight into the honey.
G2g fro isolation strains but honey water for multi-spore innocultaion.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: cookdandbombd]
    #951781 - 10/11/02 04:46 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

i have had mycellium bust through the top layer of verm many times


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #958082 - 10/13/02 10:50 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Heyo
i had 3 horse poo casings
2 now have big fluffy cobweb on them
(FUCKING GOD DAMN SONOFABITCH)
sorrry.... had to get that out
i've heard ppl put them outside to fruit
are shrooms that come from cobweb infestation edible?
... i know the answer is probably no
has anyone eaten some and survived/not needed a liver transplant?
does the outside fix problems
or do i just have 2 meatloaf tins full of garbage?
... i'm holding out hope for my 3rd one, but those hopes are not very high

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Re: cobweb mold [Re: xfluffybunnyx]
    #958260 - 10/13/02 11:45 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I have never had cobweb mold, but according to TMC, cobweb mold can be stopped by covering it with salt or baking soda. It makes a real mess of mushrooms but poses no danger to humans. So if the mushrooms look okay and are not rotten inside then you could eat them if you were deparate.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #961024 - 10/14/02 10:48 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

First time experience with cobweb mold on casing, (straight vermiculite). As soon as I saw it knew what it was. Very different than mycelium. Wispy looking. Spayed peroxide water mix and seemed to do the trick. Tried to take pic but this is the best I could get. Hope it helps a little.



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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #961612 - 10/15/02 01:34 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

Here's some healthy cobweb for you.



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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bradbrad]
    #962181 - 10/15/02 06:26 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

so...
does cobweb make the mushies that grow unedible or no?


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: xfluffybunnyx]
    #962192 - 10/15/02 06:32 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

cobweb itself is harmless to humans but it causes mushies to rot which can't be good.. but if the mushies aren't rotten then you should be okay eating them


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: zeta]
    #962202 - 10/15/02 06:40 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

sweetness,
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Re: cobweb mold [Re: zeta]
    #962725 - 10/15/02 01:03 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

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Re: cobweb mold [Re: Mac]
    #962807 - 10/15/02 01:45 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

anyone have recommended water/peroxide recipes? it looks like my friend has also grown some cobweb mold. i think there are different strengths of peroxide (H2O2), so if anyone has specifics, please post here. is it possible to use too much peroxide in the water?


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: Bilge]
    #963518 - 10/15/02 06:03 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

1 portion of 3% h2o2 to aprox. 10 portions of water.

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Re: cobweb mold [Re: Joshua]
    #967367 - 10/16/02 11:15 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Great pic. I always have a hard time with closeups.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: MAIA]
    #17362962 - 12/09/12 08:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

This is all I know...I DESPISE cobweb mold! Fucking shit is a pain in my ass! It does grow in jars...a few of mine at least..and I sterilize using a pc for 90 min. usually (always in my case) occurs when there is too much moisture in the jar and/or temp too high! It grows very fast. Did I mention I hate the shit! Oh,yeah it can be killed according to RR by spraying it with peroxide 3%, which is the typical strength sold in reg grocery stores as an antiseptic. Im not so sure about jars, finally got 1 damn quart jar perfect. Then put in substrate of cow poo/straw covered with wax paper and lid. Im  thinking this caused 1 or both of the aforementioned "cobweb" playgrounds. Now I am spraying it every 12 hrs with the peroxide (after taking off the lid and wax paper)and have a fan blowing in that general direction. I refuse to lose my only 'baby' if i can help it at all. Thing I am concerned about now is I want it (fuzzy shit)to DIE so I have basically drowned my substrate. Can anyone tell me where to go from here? PLEASE? Should I pasturize more substrate and add some? (maybe on the dry side).


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bluegreenbaby]
    #17363009 - 12/09/12 08:09 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yes i know this thread is old!!! What happens when every time I ask a question..twice..I'm told to use the search engine..granted I started out asking how to, when it was obvious I hadn't done any research.  I have since been eating, drinking, sleeping shrooms! now if I can get it together on how to use this forum correctly maybe I'll get somewhere ...


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bluegreenbaby]
    #17364346 - 12/09/12 11:39 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Why didn't you just make a new thread instead of bumping one from over 10 years ago...?


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: Jimmyhunter1000]
    #17365729 - 12/10/12 07:36 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Bumping an old pisses people off for some reason. Use the search engine for your questions. If you have a hard time adequately finding your answers, then feel free to make a new thread in the appropriate sub-forum. Hope that helps.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #17377273 - 12/11/12 11:41 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

heres some good pics of cobweb mold ...http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17364733


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: zeta]
    #17377568 - 12/12/12 12:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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I have never had cobweb mold, but according to TMC, cobweb mold can be stopped by covering it with salt or baking soda. It makes a real mess of mushrooms but poses no danger to humans. So if the mushrooms look okay and are not rotten inside then you could eat them if you were deparate.




:foreheadslap: Cobweb can be stopped by using a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution. You cover trich with a salt paste and I dont know what you do with baking soda.
http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: creekfreek]
    #17377607 - 12/12/12 12:34 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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zeta said:
I have never had cobweb mold, but according to TMC, cobweb mold can be stopped by covering it with salt or baking soda. It makes a real mess of mushrooms but poses no danger to humans. So if the mushrooms look okay and are not rotten inside then you could eat them if you were deparate.




:foreheadslap: Cobweb can be stopped by using a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution. You cover trich with a salt paste and I dont know what you do with baking soda.
http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture








When do you use the 3% hydrogen peroxide solution while your making the brf cakes ? Are do u mean if u get it while already fully colonized and fruiting ?
Could my cakes could of been saved ?


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: bluegreenbaby]
    #17377633 - 12/12/12 12:38 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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This is all I know...I DESPISE cobweb mold! Fucking shit is a pain in my ass! It does grow in jars...a few of mine at least..and I sterilize using a pc for 90 min. usually (always in my case) occurs when there is too much moisture in the jar and/or temp too high! It grows very fast. Did I mention I hate the shit! Oh,yeah it can be killed according to RR by spraying it with peroxide 3%, which is the typical strength sold in reg grocery stores as an antiseptic. Im not so sure about jars, finally got 1 damn quart jar perfect. Then put in substrate of cow poo/straw covered with wax paper and lid. Im  thinking this caused 1 or both of the aforementioned "cobweb" playgrounds. Now I am spraying it every 12 hrs with the peroxide (after taking off the lid and wax paper)and have a fan blowing in that general direction. I refuse to lose my only 'baby' if i can help it at all. Thing I am concerned about now is I want it (fuzzy shit)to DIE so I have basically drowned my substrate. Can anyone tell me where to go from here? PLEASE? Should I pasturize more substrate and add some? (maybe on the dry side).





Why the hell did this guy open and post in this post anyways its over 10 years old ffs .


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: tokeweed420]
    #17377640 - 12/12/12 12:39 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

If you have cobweb in your jars, and I am not 100% certain that you do, you PC or boil them for 90 minutes then dump them out and start over.
If you have it on a cake or bulk, then you can use the peroxide.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: creekfreek]
    #17378258 - 12/12/12 04:47 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

tokeweed420, invitro cakes can not be saved by any means from mould. The only way you can battle and defeat cobweb is if it shows up on a fully colonized and birthed substrate or cake, and then you treat it with a h2o2 spray.


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    #17378345 - 12/12/12 06:22 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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tokeweed420, invitro cakes can not be saved by any means from mould. The only way you can battle and defeat cobweb is if it shows up on a fully colonized and birthed substrate or cake, and then you treat it with a h2o2 spray.






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    #17379669 - 12/12/12 02:21 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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I have never had cobweb mold, but according to TMC, cobweb mold can be stopped by covering it with salt or baking soda. It makes a real mess of mushrooms but poses no danger to humans. So if the mushrooms look okay and are not rotten inside then you could eat them if you were deparate.




:foreheadslap: Cobweb can be stopped by using a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution. You cover trich with a salt paste and I dont know what you do with baking soda.
http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture








When do you use the 3% hydrogen peroxide solution while your making the brf cakes ? Are do u mean if u get it while already fully colonized and fruiting ?
Could my cakes could of been saved ?




It's unlikely it's cobweb mold anyways. There are a lot of molds that look similar to that but cobweb is primarily a contaminant of casing layers and is particularly rare in jars, though you might find it on a dry verm layer that got damp.


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Re: cobweb mold [Re: Kizzle]
    #17381075 - 12/12/12 06:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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zeta said:
I have never had cobweb mold, but according to TMC, cobweb mold can be stopped by covering it with salt or baking soda. It makes a real mess of mushrooms but poses no danger to humans. So if the mushrooms look okay and are not rotten inside then you could eat them if you were deparate.




:foreheadslap: Cobweb can be stopped by using a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution. You cover trich with a salt paste and I dont know what you do with baking soda.
http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture








When do you use the 3% hydrogen peroxide solution while your making the brf cakes ? Are do u mean if u get it while already fully colonized and fruiting ?
Could my cakes could of been saved ?




It's unlikely it's cobweb mold anyways. There are a lot of molds that look similar to that but cobweb is primarily a contaminant of casing layers and is particularly rare in jars, though you might find it on a dry verm layer that got damp.





I think i figured out my problem i forgot to clean the inside of my glove box before i used it ...and i checked afterwards it is dusty ...and all so my moister content was way off in my substrate i basically just guesstimated the ratio ...


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