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OfflineMsPacMan
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New Idea
    #947330 - 10/09/02 10:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Hey All.....
After a night of movies and popcorn, i found a bunch of popcorn kernels sitting on the counter....so.....it being a very drunk 4am....we took a poll to see if the kernels will pop in the pressure cooker. Nope. So the next experiment is growing some B+ on the kernels.  Any suggestions or smart ass remarks on why this won't work??
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Re: New Idea [Re: MsPacMan]
    #947369 - 10/09/02 10:41 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

They might pop if they sat in water overnight and then added to the PC. You would need them to contain water if you wanted anything to grow on them...??


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Re: New Idea [Re: angryshroom]
    #947414 - 10/09/02 10:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

what about mixing a little vermiculite in to hold the water??

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Re: New Idea [Re: MsPacMan]
    #947521 - 10/09/02 11:19 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Three/fourths of the mass of popcorn is carbohydrate (starch) and the rest is water,
protein, fat, and minerals. When it pops, the water inside the kernels vaporizes causing
the pressure to increase until the outer covering bursts.
Grain cereals have three main structures: the pericarp (the hard outer covering), the germ
(the part that sprouts), and the endosperm (the starch). The starch of the endosperm in
the maize family is of two types, translucent and opaque. Good popping corn has a lot of
translucent starch in the endosperm. Field corn does not have much translucent starch so
it cannot be popped. The pericarp of popcorn is especially strong. Thus it can hold water
inside the kernel to a certain point. The confined water vaporizes to steam causing a
pressure build-up inside the kernel. In fact, the water/starch mixture is actually
superheated to a temperature far above its normal boiling point. When conditions are
right, the kernel explodes from within. The heat energy transforms the translucent starch
into the familiar white fluffy foam-like product that is eaten.


taken from A Study of the Ideal Gas Laws with Popcorn (warning: .PDF file).

Popcorn should be able to aborb some water. Try soaking it for 48 hours before PCing it. If it still doesn't pop, it might be possible to use as a substrate. Mixing in a little moistened fine grade vermiculate wouldn't hurt either. You should try one unsoaked, one soaked, and two (one soaked and one unsoaked) with moist vermiculate. PC them, innoculate (preferably from culture or liquid mycelium; although a spore syringe might work), and post results. You could try pre-popping, chopping up, and soaking some popcorn as well in one jar.

While this seems kind of pointless (we already know what works well), it would be a cool demonstration of the robust nature of cubensis mycelium. I'm always surprised to hear that it manages to fruit on everything from grass clippings to cat litter.


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Re: New Idea [Re: bowling-name]
    #948694 - 10/10/02 09:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

even if it doesn't work, i at least learned the nature of the popcorn kernel.

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Re: New Idea [Re: MsPacMan]
    #948728 - 10/10/02 09:35 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

If you are just starting out, I would recommend using a Proven Tek.  I'd experiment later after you've been successful. But thats just my opinion.

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Re: New Idea [Re: happygrins]
    #948738 - 10/10/02 09:37 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i have the reg. pf tek going now, im just doing future research.


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Re: New Idea [Re: MsPacMan]
    #948750 - 10/10/02 09:41 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Good Idea..  you can never do enough research when it comes to mycology. (Its like a disease that has no cure, and the worse you get it, the more you love it)

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Edited by happygrins (10/10/02 09:42 AM)


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Re: New Idea [Re: MsPacMan]
    #949284 - 10/10/02 12:11 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i tried once, it did not work, but i don't know why, other that the kernels seem much tougher than rye.


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Re: New Idea [Re: happygrins]
    #949299 - 10/10/02 12:14 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I thought of this myself too after seeing a big ass bucket of popcorn at work.  I'm just barely starting though, I haven't experimented or anything yet.  I'd love to see how it goes if you decide to play around with this idea.  :grin:  Popcorn is like ten cents a silo, nice and cheap. 


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    #951592 - 10/11/02 01:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: New Idea [Re: Macey Howard]
    #951616 - 10/11/02 02:18 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Pop it & throw it in the compost pile. It adds all sorts of nutes, vit's, lignin & trace minerals & makes good compost.

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Re: New Idea [Re: SixTango]
    #951790 - 10/11/02 04:53 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

That's funny you should say that SixTango. I used to use popcorn in my compost when all the worms disappeared. Fresh moist yard, and table scraps are full of worms until all the nutes are used up. Dog food and cornmeal also work well. I guess I'm a fishahaulik but I love to have a dozen fullgrown and lively free worms in every handful of my compost. The ones in the baitshop suck.


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Re: New Idea [Re: MsPacMan]
    #951848 - 10/11/02 05:38 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

hi!
a while ago I had the same idea,but I didn't try it yet.
But I know how 2 pop your popcorn:
Take a pot with little oil in it, put the kernels in and heat.
close the pot! else the popcorn will...


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