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OfflineSubconscious
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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: krypto2000]
    #9474296 - 12/21/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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It's best to keep RC's as RC's, because as soon as professional research/studies are conducted they will become illegal chemicals, versus research chemicals. In other words, I'd rather take the risk then see 2c-e, 2c-i or any of the other RC's become illegal. PiHKAL, & TiHKAL does a pretty good job of defining each chemical, & the effects when ingested, I doubt much more can be discovered except for long term effects, which are incredibly hard to track.




I'm not sure where you live, but here in the USA we have the "Federal Analouge Act" - which basically means if I got caught with my bag of 4-ho-dipt, they would say its structurally similar to psilosin and therefor I would be fucked anyways even though 4-ho-dipt isn't technically illegal in the first place.

I know I personally don't want to be on an immaterial level trip on some random chemical, and have the thought dawn upon me that I could be the first person to die/get fucked up from the shit. That thought just doesn't sit well with me. With mushrooms or LSD I know there are countless before me who have taken trips and not died or gotten fucked up, and it just makes it easier - especially if things start to get difficult to handle I just tell myself "no ones ever died from this shit and i'll be coming down in a few hours" and I start to feel better. With RC's I can't convince my inner self to believe that most of the time.

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Coaster]
    #9475951 - 12/22/08 12:08 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

2c-b, it has great visuals and euphoria with little mindfuck and body load (which is nice sometimes).

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InvisibleMr Cyan
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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Subconscious]
    #9477895 - 12/22/08 12:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Subconscious said:
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It's best to keep RC's as RC's, because as soon as professional research/studies are conducted they will become illegal chemicals, versus research chemicals. In other words, I'd rather take the risk then see 2c-e, 2c-i or any of the other RC's become illegal. PiHKAL, & TiHKAL does a pretty good job of defining each chemical, & the effects when ingested, I doubt much more can be discovered except for long term effects, which are incredibly hard to track.




I'm not sure where you live, but here in the USA we have the "Federal Analouge Act" - which basically means if I got caught with my bag of 4-ho-dipt, they would say its structurally similar to psilosin and therefor I would be fucked anyways even though 4-ho-dipt isn't technically illegal in the first place.

I know I personally don't want to be on an immaterial level trip on some random chemical, and have the thought dawn upon me that I could be the first person to die/get fucked up from the shit. That thought just doesn't sit well with me. With mushrooms or LSD I know there are countless before me who have taken trips and not died or gotten fucked up, and it just makes it easier - especially if things start to get difficult to handle I just tell myself "no ones ever died from this shit and i'll be coming down in a few hours" and I start to feel better. With RC's I can't convince my inner self to believe that most of the time.




I don't think, given the right situation, you could be arrested for having a legal RC, as long as you have a good story to back up your "Research". But if you were caught with an RC, & other illegal drugs, then you probably will be charged for the RC, as well.

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Offlineacidbase
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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Hits of Sunshine]
    #9477986 - 12/22/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

2CB.

The hydrochloride mind as the brominated version does have toxicity issues.


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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Mr Cyan]
    #9478078 - 12/22/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Mr Cyan said:
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Subconscious said:
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It's best to keep RC's as RC's, because as soon as professional research/studies are conducted they will become illegal chemicals, versus research chemicals. In other words, I'd rather take the risk then see 2c-e, 2c-i or any of the other RC's become illegal. PiHKAL, & TiHKAL does a pretty good job of defining each chemical, & the effects when ingested, I doubt much more can be discovered except for long term effects, which are incredibly hard to track.




I'm not sure where you live, but here in the USA we have the "Federal Analouge Act" - which basically means if I got caught with my bag of 4-ho-dipt, they would say its structurally similar to psilosin and therefor I would be fucked anyways even though 4-ho-dipt isn't technically illegal in the first place.

I know I personally don't want to be on an immaterial level trip on some random chemical, and have the thought dawn upon me that I could be the first person to die/get fucked up from the shit. That thought just doesn't sit well with me. With mushrooms or LSD I know there are countless before me who have taken trips and not died or gotten fucked up, and it just makes it easier - especially if things start to get difficult to handle I just tell myself "no ones ever died from this shit and i'll be coming down in a few hours" and I start to feel better. With RC's I can't convince my inner self to believe that most of the time.




I don't think, given the right situation, you could be arrested for having a legal RC, as long as you have a good story to back up your "Research". But if you were caught with an RC, & other illegal drugs, then you probably will be charged for the RC, as well.




They can prosecute you under the Analogue Act.
Right now they are going after suppliers, I think there may have been a case where it was just an individual with personal supply.

What are you going to say if you are on the street with a capsule of 2C-I, or at home with some 2C-E weighed out on a scale and the Shroomery pulled up on your computer?

Unless you are in a laboratory setting, they know what you are using it for.

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InvisibleMr Cyan
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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: bryguy27007]
    #9478187 - 12/22/08 12:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

You're right. I thought about this in the shower, & figured the only good thing about them being an RC is that they aren't easy to track via mail, & aren't exactly on the radar, per se. Still, I'd rather them be an RC than illegal.

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Mr Cyan]
    #9478210 - 12/22/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Mr Cyan said:
You're right. I thought about this in the shower, & figured the only good thing about them being an RC is that they aren't easy to track via mail, & aren't exactly on the radar, per se. Still, I'd rather them be an RC than illegal.




And I like how much easier it is to find RC vendors than it is traditional 'illegals' vendors. That's the biggest plus in my book.

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: krypto2000]
    #9478276 - 12/22/08 01:14 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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And I like how much easier it is to find RC vendors than it is traditional 'illegals' vendors. That's the biggest plus in my book.




still, how do you know to trust an RC vendor? Remember the synthetic heroin that gave everyone parkinsons?

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Freedom]
    #9478305 - 12/22/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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And I like how much easier it is to find RC vendors than it is traditional 'illegals' vendors. That's the biggest plus in my book.




still, how do you know to trust an RC vendor? Remember the synthetic heroin that gave everyone parkinsons?




I don't, but there's so many RC vendors you just gotta find one or two legit ones and stick with them until they get taken down. I'd trust RC's being legit more so than common drugs to tho. I mean, and no I don't know about that heroin thing, but most drugs that are cut/bunk are research chems because they're so cheap (at least for suppliers to buy in bulk) so there's not much incentive to rip you off. Unless you're referring to strait scams, in which case it happens, but it just comes with the territory. You get scammed a couple times until you find a legit vendor maybe, but then you're set for awhile.

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Freedom]
    #9478325 - 12/22/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Freedom said:
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And I like how much easier it is to find RC vendors than it is traditional 'illegals' vendors. That's the biggest plus in my book.




still, how do you know to trust an RC vendor? Remember the synthetic heroin that gave everyone parkinsons?




Not heroin but DOM/STP. Toxic contaminant called MPTP.

Edit: unless you are talking about MPPP.


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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: acidbase]
    #9478359 - 12/22/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

right, mptp was a byproduct of mppp synthesis

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: Platinum]
    #9478532 - 12/22/08 02:19 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Mephedrone is my favorite, but psychedelic I've only really experimented with 5-Meo-Dipt (Foxy Methoxy)

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: accountant]
    #9478856 - 12/22/08 03:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

4-Ho-MIPT

I LOVE IT

Very much like psilocin in medium doses. Gets pretty weird at high doses though.

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Re: Your Fav RC and why [Re: El Zorro]
    #9480862 - 12/22/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

From what I understand 2C-B is illegal in the US right?


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In the United States, a notice of proposed rulemaking published on December 20, 1994 in the Federal Register (59 FR 65521) and after a review of relevant data, the Deputy Administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) proposed to place 4-bromo-2,5-DMPEA into Schedule I, making 2C-B illegal in the United States. This became permanent law July 2, 1995.


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