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Easy non PC teks....
    #9459489 - 12/18/08 11:37 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I am looking for an easy tek for something that will be viable for a cheap grow. I won't be using a pressure cooker. Probably will just boil use boil tek.

What would be my best substrate for caking. I was thinking Organic Popcorn, what do you all think.

Any input would be appreciated.

I want this to be an easy and cheap op for personal use. As the spores were given to me.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459499 - 12/18/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

pf tek
http://www.mushroomvideos.com /

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459502 - 12/18/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The only thing you can use w/o a PC is BRF PF-tek jars.  Everything else you NEED a PC.  That's if you use your own stuff and don't order a Growbag or something - which is all ready to go.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9459512 - 12/18/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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noobieshroomie said:
pf tek
http://www.mushroomvideos.com /

  -noobie-




I may still be a noobie. However if you look at my past posts I have already done a PF tek grow. I was wondering if I can do something different. Ass


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459523 - 12/18/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

^ He's not calling you a noobie - he signs every single post w/ that.

And w/ no PC - there is nothing else you can work w/ making your own substrate.  Why do you think they say a PC is essential for this hobby?  You can get a small PC for $30-40.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: J3illy]
    #9459526 - 12/18/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I don't want to have to have alot of stuff around like that.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459529 - 12/18/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well then what can we tell ya?  ALL grains require PC'ing.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459537 - 12/18/08 11:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

well you said no pc and cakes so i suggested the pf tek
and im an ass ok thats cool
1 more thing how do you plan on making cakes from popcorn?

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459580 - 12/19/08 12:05 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I may still be a noobie. However if you look at my past posts I have already done a PF tek grow. I was wondering if I can do something different. Ass




ROFL. oh god thats classic! Im glad i looked at this thread..
what noobieshroomie is saying is NO you can do nothing else without a pc.. trust me... against everyone elses advisement.. i have tried.. im sure others have tried and do/dont care to admit that they've tried.. dont waste your time.. you might as well spend the 2 hours of your life that you would be trying to boil grain pissing into the wind.. youll get farther that way

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459670 - 12/19/08 12:37 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Smartweed said:
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noobieshroomie said:
pf tek
http://www.mushroomvideos.com /

  -noobie-




I may still be a noobie. However if you look at my past posts I have already done a PF tek grow. I was wondering if I can do something different. Ass




Ooooweeeee...
Aren't you touchy?

You should still get a pressure cooker, as you'll be stuck doing PF Tek otherwise. I mean, you could do PF and spawn to bulk substrate, but I don't know how you'd go about sterilizing your bulk.

Besides, you can cook food in it. It's not like a PC is strictly drug-related paraphernalia...


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: one more]
    #9459712 - 12/19/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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one more said:
but I don't know how you'd go about sterilizing your bulk.




Bulk subs don't get sterilized - just pasteurized.  Pouring near boiling water on them in a big pot and leaving them for a cpl hrs is usually good enough to accomplish it.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: J3illy]
    #9459731 - 12/19/08 12:53 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Ah...well, it sounds like that's just what this guy is looking for.

Thanks for clearing that up, btw.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: one more]
    #9459762 - 12/19/08 01:01 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i actually read on here today.. an old post from hippie chick.. that she prefers to sterilize her substrate.. she's pulled 5 and 6 flushes out of a 5lb substrate and grown mushrooms as big as her arm.. im not going to argue with those results..

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: J3illy]
    #9459763 - 12/19/08 01:02 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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one more said:
but I don't know how you'd go about sterilizing your bulk.




Bulk subs don't get sterilized - just pasteurized.  Pouring near boiling water on them in a big pot and leaving them for a cpl hrs is usually good enough to accomplish it.




I have decided for my easy tek, to do a PF style cakes and then put them in casings with pasteurized coco coir and a peatmoss + verm layer for casing.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9459771 - 12/19/08 01:05 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yes that's totally fine.  I'm also in the same boat as you - I don't plan on getting a PC yet, but I'm doing a bulk grow next.  I'm gonna make like 16 BRF cakes and spawn to bulk, either from Weretheshit.com or Highmountaincompost.com - they have real good shit lol, and it's prepasteurized, field capacity, and ready to use right outta the bag.  All I gotta do is crumble my cakes and mix.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: J3illy]
    #9459814 - 12/19/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

just dont get from tennstud, last batch I got from them for a buddy all contam'd even after we pasteurized.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9460539 - 12/19/08 06:23 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Cakes to coir is the way to go for you.

Coir is easy to prepare: just hydrate with boiling water and cover with foil for a few hours.

I use a mix of 4:1:1 coir - verm - coffee. You can spawn cakes to it by crumbling them or sticking them in a blender even.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: dead]
    #9460710 - 12/19/08 07:26 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I hate to sound like a snob, but a PC was only like $39.99 for 8 quarts. I mean $40 is worth the ease of mind IMO.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: madz]
    #9460831 - 12/19/08 07:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

you can use millet. load up mason jars 3/4 & filter disk and boil them.

first let the millet soak for 24h, then rinse them and boil them for an hour and a half. let them sit overnight, then boil them for an hour and for an hour after the second day.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9461131 - 12/19/08 09:11 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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you can use millet. load up mason jars 3/4 & filter disk and boil them.

first let the millet soak for 24h, then rinse them and boil them for an hour and a half. let them sit overnight, then boil them for an hour and for an hour after the second day.

it works.




Thats a lot of work lol. Might as well just buy a PC. Time is worth more then saving 40 bucks. If mycology ends up not being his thing he can always use the PC to cook seafood. win/win

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: madz]
    #9461192 - 12/19/08 09:23 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

:nothingtoadd:
besides im an ass

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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9461531 - 12/19/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Haha noobie. You should invest in a pc though, if not then your stuck doing Pk tek. nothing wrong with that tho. i love the pf tek.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #9461582 - 12/19/08 11:12 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

oh i got one
i was referring to the OP calling me an ass
look back on the first page

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
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ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9462204 - 12/19/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i know, lol but to me, he doesnt want to have stuff around like that sounds like someone growing where they shouldnt, ie. Parents House.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #9462212 - 12/19/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

well i gave him info and i get called an ass?
im done with him he will get nothing else from me

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9462219 - 12/19/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Haha, i never get tired of the fighting on here, and nice monster, excuador you said?

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #9462234 - 12/19/08 01:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

yea EQ
look in the christmas grow thread
i have lots of pics in there

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9462779 - 12/19/08 03:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

noobieshroom sorry for calling you an ass just looked like I was getting called a noob. Why I don't doubt but im here for information and thats what this place is for.

Anyways, like I said this is something I don't want to invest in for a quick easy personal op.

I have teenage boys and I don't want them to start wondering what dad is cooking jars for in a pressure cooker.

I have come to the conclusion that the best route for me is to purchase a presterilized rye bag and innoc to that and then spawn to casings all in the privacy of my office.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9462858 - 12/19/08 03:51 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

thank you for your apology
but i was not calling you a noob
thats just my sig
instead of typing noobieshroomie every time i just type noobie
i understand your situation
i have a 6 year old and he is starting to ask questions
i just tell him its for growing flowers
when the flowers come up in our garden in the spring
he believes me
teenagers are smarter than that tho
i retract my previous statement that i am done with you
i am a noble man and if you need a question answered i will answer it foryou
as will others
thanks for your understanding

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9462890 - 12/19/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks noobieshroomie!


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9462905 - 12/19/08 03:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:
ha kids there the best

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: madz]
    #9462925 - 12/19/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

madz said:
Quote:

b0red5tiff said:
you can use millet. load up mason jars 3/4 & filter disk and boil them.

first let the millet soak for 24h, then rinse them and boil them for an hour and a half. let them sit overnight, then boil them for an hour and for an hour after the second day.

it works.




Thats a lot of work lol. Might as well just buy a PC. Time is worth more then saving 40 bucks. If mycology ends up not being his thing he can always use the PC to cook seafood. win/win




some people live in areas where a decent PC is unavailable.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9462935 - 12/19/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

you got some nice big mushrooms there noobieshroomie, how do you like the EQ strain?


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9462954 - 12/19/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:
took a while to find this one but im glad i cloned it
i just saw that it was big,cloned it to LC
and hoped it was potent enough
IT WAS:lol:
now i have potent monsters

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Smartweed]
    #9462964 - 12/19/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Use the "Disgusting grain tek" all you do is soak the grain for 24 hours then simmer for 15 mins then boil in a pot for 2 hours, make sure you only use small jars as the more mass the more hard it is for the heat to penetrate, this was discovered by Art vandely, I have tried it and had 100% success rate and Art lives by it :wink:

The grain must only be wheat grain or rye grain, nothing else will work.


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9462979 - 12/19/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I'm growing clones too... cloned two amazons, one big and one medium sized. Like you noobie I'm just hoping they turn out potent :thumbup:

The first tray has started knotting, so hopefully I'll be able to post up some pin porn soon.

Btw I really like the ultra rhizo mycelium of a clone culture!


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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: dead]
    #9463013 - 12/19/08 04:15 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

yea the rizos are sick
i tested my lc on agar first
it took 4-5 days to cover almost the whole plate(no shittin you)
it was at like 85-90%
so i decided to use that LC
boy im glad i did
i think i got lucky tho,the first grow was from ms
so i guess i just caught the right fruit

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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT

ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9465189 - 12/20/08 12:31 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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you can use millet. load up mason jars 3/4 & filter disk and boil them.

first let the millet soak for 24h, then rinse them and boil them for an hour and a half. let them sit overnight, then boil them for an hour and for an hour after the second day.

it works.




Thats a lot of work lol. Might as well just buy a PC. Time is worth more then saving 40 bucks. If mycology ends up not being his thing he can always use the PC to cook seafood. win/win




some people live in areas where a decent PC is unavailable.



i bought mine on the internet. after shipping it was no more then $45

EDIT: by the way im not trying to be snobby its just that out of all the methods i have read about (this is my first grow so i am not a professional) using a PC has been the simplest and most efficient. So, for $40+$5 shipping it is much worth the investment in my opinion thus far.

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: madz]
    #9465204 - 12/20/08 12:38 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

speaking of kids, my 8 year old son, asked what i was doing one time, i told him bio fuel for the lawnmower and weedeater, lol. cant ya pc when their not home?

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Re: Easy non PC teks.... [Re: anakin3197]
    #9465257 - 12/20/08 12:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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speaking of kids, my 8 year old son, asked what i was doing one time, i told him bio fuel for the lawnmower and weedeater, lol. cant ya pc when their not home?



I dont have any kids (and me and my fiance dont plan on it for at least another 7 years) but i figured 1 hour in a PC is still a simple way to hide it since it requires the least amount of time to sterilize. Also PC's are not a uncommon piece of a equipment. at least in my family we used them all the time so i figured it was no big deal.

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