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Invisibleseek
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I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this!
    #9450843 - 12/17/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I've had problems breaking through. The main reason, which I am a little reluctant to admit, was the harshness of the smoke. Water or no water, it's just too harsh. Holding it in for the required amount of time is not pleasant. I knew my technique was correct all along, and I assumed I was holding it in right, but no breakthrough for me.

Recently I had a low, 1st plateau DXM trip. While I was coming down, and the DXM had largely faded away, I decided to try some Salvia. I fucking BROKE THROUGH HARD. MULTIPLE TIMES.

Holy shit. Why was it so easy to experience the magical wonderland of salvia repeatedly? I figured it out after a while:

DXM is a fucking cough medication AND recreational doses act as an analgesic, so that means: I don't cough because I cannot feel the harsh smoke in my lungs. I can hold it in for as long as I want without coughing! :laugh: It didn't sting at all, it felt really weird and tingly instead.

So I melted into my chair completely, and I had a cosmic breakthrough of infinite proportions. It was so amazing. Basically I was in a cartoon like world, and looping for ages. Melting into my chair was the strangest fucking thing I have ever felt. Dear god that was fucked. You people really aren't kidding when you say that you literally become whatever you're sitting on . Nothing will prepare you for that. The actual trip to salvia land is just... indescribable. Like, nothing happened that could be described with conventional english. How do you describe a looping infinity of shapes and colors so that someone can understand what you went through?

Only thing is that the DXM might add to the confusion, so... yeah. It's not pure Salvia, BUT, you do break through for what it's worth.

I wonder if this would work with something like 75 mg or 150 mg of DXM just for cough suppressant properties.

Edited by seek (12/17/08 04:00 PM)

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Invisibleseek
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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9450851 - 12/17/08 04:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I plan on doing 600 mg of DXM along with some salvia and nitrous this weekend. Should be fucking ridiculous.

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9450857 - 12/17/08 04:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

droogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #9450884 - 12/17/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

so dosing salvia while alrdy tripping is ur big secret
LAWL


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: Coaster]
    #9450887 - 12/17/08 04:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

NO!!!!!

I mean using DXM in low, low doses for its cough suppressant and analgesic properties. NOT tripping.

Is there anything else as effective at suppressing coughs or numbing the pain in your lungs? Something that's as easy to obtain as DXM without the dissociative effects?

Edited by seek (12/17/08 04:10 PM)

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #9450890 - 12/17/08 04:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like fun, can't wait till I get to try Salvia


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9450897 - 12/17/08 04:11 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Can someone... anyone... please try to repeat this with a low, sub 1st plateau dose of DXM? I'm thinking 150 mg or less should be able to numb your lungs enough without making you trip.

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: Coaster]
    #9450904 - 12/17/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

coaster- you know the deal, more droogs to accentuate and/or bring you down from more droogs!

you can't lose with drugs kids.

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9450909 - 12/17/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

do you think it would skew the results if I railed some meff too?

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9451065 - 12/17/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

sounds like a good plan for cough suppressed access
also the dxm slightly raises the baseline.
cool!


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #9451069 - 12/17/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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AroundtheSon said:
coaster- you know the deal, more droogs to accentuate and/or bring you down from more droogs!

you can't lose with drugs kids.



fer sureeeeeeeeeeeee
salvia+anything=massive expanse on ur tripping capabilities


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: Coaster]
    #9451076 - 12/17/08 04:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
so dosing salvia while alrdy tripping is ur big secret
LAWL




:lol:


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: Vine of Sodom]
    #9451083 - 12/17/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Vine of Sodom said:
Sounds like fun, can't wait till I get to try Salvia



its lame


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: 2Cents]
    #9451103 - 12/17/08 05:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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2Cents said:
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Vine of Sodom said:
Sounds like fun, can't wait till I get to try Salvia



its lame



don't listen to him he doesn't know a good drug when he sees one
salvia is inexplicably amazing


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: Coaster]
    #9451660 - 12/17/08 06:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if there's anyone out there who is desperate to breakthrough on Salvia because they've never been able to, and isn't averse to ingesting a small 1st plateau dosage of DXM in order to do it, then by all means, go ahead.

Make sure the ONLY active product in your DXM product is Dextromethorphan HBr

I recommend robitussin cough gels. You can try generic if you want. Just one bottle (300 mg) should be enough for this. Actual cough syrup is yucky, but do that if you want to.

NOTE: DXM can also allow you to hold in Nitrous hits for a long time to trip very, very, very hard off of it. I'm talking "HOLY SHIT WHAT HAVE I DONE TO MY MIND?!?!?!" hard. Especially if you do it in pitch black (or close to it) with music blasting. You've been warned though. It's not dangerous, but it is intense. I cannot imagine doing it with Salvia in the mix as well. Good lord, that would be... wow.

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9452454 - 12/17/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

dumbass... all i can say.

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: notserious]
    #9453315 - 12/17/08 11:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

trick to breaking through is hitting it out of my PHX trinity, it has never failed to break people through and hit them with a train filled with dynamite. So i guess a really good bong is key in addition to the basics if your having trouble

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: weshroom]
    #9453375 - 12/17/08 11:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Use warm water in your bong. I can take hits that will normally take me 3 hits in one hit with very warm water. Smoke some mint beforehand too, it helps a lot. Meditate before yo9u dose also, and breath deeply.

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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: The Centre]
    #9453683 - 12/18/08 12:16 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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The Centre said:
Use warm water in your bong. I can take hits that will normally take me 3 hits in one hit with very warm water. Smoke some mint beforehand too, it helps a lot. Meditate before yo9u dose also, and breath deeply.




thats a gewd idea. i can see how the warm vapour would 'prep' your lungs for the harshness of it all.


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Re: I know how you can breakthrough on Salvia easily!!! I've solved this! [Re: seek]
    #9454018 - 12/18/08 01:29 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

disociatives were always successful at allowing me to breathrough with salvia. dxm and ketamine both placed me there instantly.  i feel dxm and salvia was more beneficial as far as overall experience of the original substance, and then the addition of salvia.  i prefer dmt and salvia both in combination with other trips than alone.


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