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shroomerylurker
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outdoor to indoor???? *DELETED*
#945238 - 10/09/02 09:38 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Roadkill
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nope I haven't sorry shroomerylurker.
thanks for asking me to look at your thread though. 
I don't do outdoor patches of cubensis cause the weather is too cold most of the year up here.  I didn't have enough time this summer cause I had my son. Next year for sure!!
I saw someone on the board bring some cow patties with mycelium in from outside and they fruited them in a fruiting chamber.....they had some nice cubies too. I think you could do what Moe said and transfer some mycelium onto agar. Then grow it off some rye grain or birdseed....after you grow it out on agar.
As far as nats and fruit flies.....hate them bastards! They can sneek into your casings and lay eggs faster than Moe can sneek into someones yard and steal there mushrooms off their lawn.  I have had to thow out a few casings due to them bastards.
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mickey_rourke
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If you're going to attempt spawning a bulk substrate with mycelium that you dug out of the ground, you're probably not going to do too well. Not only will you require an inordinate amount of mycelium to pull this off properly, the more material you introduce from outdoors, the greater the odds of contamination.
If it were me, I would probably grow the mycelium out on agar first, isolate good clean growth, and then use an agar wedge to innoculate a jar of grain. When the grain is colonized, it will make an excellent spawn for the bulk substrate.
Good luck
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CLuB99
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If it were me, I would probably grow the mycelium out on agar first, isolate good clean growth, and then use an agar wedge to innoculate a jar of grain. When the grain is colonized, it will make an excellent spawn for the bulk substrate.
mickey_rourke said all shroomerylurker.... have fun 
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SixTango
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Mo's advice is right on the money.
It could be done. But in a small was, as Mo suggests.
Wild prints are iffy at best & almost always generaly have some associated contam. Unless your lottery winner lucky .
Correspondingly, wild myc would also be somewhat dirty. Moreover, severing myc shocks it :.
If one were to gather a a clean bit of wild myc, go straight to agar with it -- quick --& isolate a clean strand after it begins to colonize that agar, then put that clean isolate to new agar petri, let it colonize, then use those as colonized wedges to innoc sterilized grain or seed jars would be about the best bet.
It would be safer to start with a clean syringe from a reputable vendor like TLG or R44. 
But, whatever floats your boat. A H202 bath does not gurentee sterility & may not kill all gnat larvae, if present?
But, hey, what the hell. It sounds like a free shot at something. If you give it a try? Post a follow up on how it went.
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mickey_rourke
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Re: outdoor to indoor???? [Re: Macey Howard]
#945385 - 10/09/02 10:36 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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I expounded on your post..
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shroomerylurker
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Re: outdoor to indoor???? *DELETED* [Re: shroomerylurker]
#945444 - 10/09/02 10:54 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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mickey_rourke
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I doubt you will be able to pull it off considering your circumstances.
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Anno
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>So he was wondering if since is was so established if it would work just transplanting it.
I?d say this would be our best bet. You could try to collect it, put into a big paper bag and store in a cellar in cold till you move it to the new patch.
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mickey_rourke
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Re: outdoor to indoor???? [Re: Anno]
#945529 - 10/09/02 11:39 AM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did he mean transplanting to another outdoor location in the future or transplanting indoors?
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Champion des Champignons
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due to time and temperature constraints I'm trying a similar idea.... I have some azure colonised chips in a tray, but as the fruiting conditions are likely to end before decent fruiting occurs if the chips were used to make an outdoor bed, my plan is to leave the tray outdoors until the weather gets too cold, or until primordia form, then move the tray indoors into an unheated garage, which should provide roughly suitable conditions for fruiting to occur, or continue if it has already started.
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mycofile
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I think the main thing that would determine if you even try it is two fold:
1. Are you sure it will be too cold and 2. Do you have any other cultivation attempts going on indoors right now?
In a hurry now, answer those and I'll expound later.
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shroomerylurker
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Re: outdoor to indoor???? *DELETED* [Re: mycofile]
#952854 - 10/11/02 03:14 PM (23 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycofile
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OK, sounds like it is pretty cold there. So, you pretty much have to move it inside or you will get nothing.
With no other indoor projects going, you don't need to worry about contamination as much. If you had indoor projects, bringing in the outdoor patch could threaten them via cross contamination spread by the bugs and flies which are likely in the outdoor patch.
I'd bring it in. Dig it up as carefully as you can. Disrupting the substrate may give the contaminate spores, which are definately in there, the chance to prloliferate and overun the substrate. Keep in mind that you do have contaminate spores in the patch, you just have to optimize EVERYTHING so that all the conditions favor mycelium over contams. Constantly moving air. Propper air exchange. Propper humidity levels.
All of that should keep the contams at bay long enough to get at least a flush or two. Esp. don't let the air around the patch get stagnant. Do not seal it up in an airtight rubbermaid and hope to get by by fanning it once a day.
I think you have a decent chance of success.
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