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OfflineNoteworthy
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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Veritas]
    #9451180 - 12/17/08 05:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

since they can lock you up and declare you as mentally unfit, which is a restriction on your life, id say that society 'doesnt let people commit suicide' even if theres no criminal charge put on your record


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Noteworthy]
    #9451197 - 12/17/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, they can impose involuntary hospitalization on anyone who is deemed to be dangerously insane...does this mean that people are not "allowed" to be insane?

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Veritas]
    #9451390 - 12/17/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes, I feel like I'm not allowed in this society.....

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Poid]
    #9451558 - 12/17/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Poid said:
Sometimes, I feel like I'm not allowed in this society.....




I just feel like I don't BELONG in it...


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #9451587 - 12/17/08 06:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

But I love all people, regardless of the pain they cause me and/or each other, so I want to be part of it, in a way. Well, I want to be part of my fellow man, the society itself can kiss my @$$.

I think it's worse to want to belong and not be able to then not wanting to belong and being forced to....

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Poid]
    #9451732 - 12/17/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

agreed


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #9452435 - 12/17/08 08:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

:yesnod:

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Poid]
    #9452821 - 12/17/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I think a suicide attempt should carry the death penalty. :tongue:


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9452867 - 12/17/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

That's like suicide by cop, or rather suicide by "the man".

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #9453215 - 12/17/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I do think it's ridiculous. After being told I was suicidal and everyone wanting to lock me up I thought, "why would you lock me up for seeing no point in this charade called life? You people kill yourselves everyday with your food and poison cosmetics, all the pollution, etc. You kill the earth too, and if that dies you die. So you are indirectly killing yourself, you just can't perceive/comprehend it. We're all one, so why don't we lock YOU up for killing the Gaia/universe?"

I have never had a chance to vocalize this. It feels nice:sun:




That's the best logic I've heard in awhile.  I've never understood why people pollute their habitat poisoning the food, air, and water and don't think it's that important.  Someone called it the irrational rationality of society but hopefully it will change soon, or maybe I'm just feeling overly optimistic. :bliss:


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #9454811 - 12/18/08 07:53 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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ChiefGreenLeaf said:
I do think it's ridiculous. After being told I was suicidal and everyone wanting to lock me up I thought, "why would you lock me up for seeing no point in this charade called life? You people kill yourselves everyday with your food and poison cosmetics, all the pollution, etc. You kill the earth too, and if that dies you die. So you are indirectly killing yourself, you just can't perceive/comprehend it. We're all one, so why don't we lock YOU up for killing the Gaia/universe?"

I have never had a chance to vocalize this. It feels nice:sun:



You've either watched Zeitgeist or tripped a lot. Wise words my friend. Very wise words.

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Veritas]
    #9454840 - 12/18/08 08:05 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

There was a news story in my area the other day:  "Police Taser saves man's life", which was notable considering how many taser deaths have been in the news recently.

Turns out the man was holding a knife to his own throat, threatening suicide, so they electrocuted him and he was admitted to hospital with 'self-inflicted stab wounds' :lol:


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: TheHappieHippies]
    #9457474 - 12/18/08 05:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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TheHappieHippies said:
Quote:

Poid said:
Sometimes, I feel like I'm not allowed in this society.....




I just feel like I don't BELONG in it...





it's because you all are Aliens, like everyone to each other!!!

suicide it is not a matter of legalization it's a matter of responsibility, when someone is dead there is a responsibility lays down on a dead person and someone have to take it(by free will or by force).
and if government won't prevent people to kill themselves, then people will think that government don't care about them and they will feel insecure and lose faith to them,  the result will be, no support and no care for the government.
and then will come the father of ANARCHY......FREEDOM

yes, it's right about a profit from "life", when you have in your country more living people then dead ones, because civilians are a PROPERTY of the government.

oohh... by the way the US(and many others) government allows to kill  ( death sentence )
this is a proof that we all a property of the government!!!


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Veritas]
    #9458253 - 12/18/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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BTW, I think it is extremely funny to attempt to stop someone from killing themself by pointing a gun at them.  "Oh, no, don't shoot me, officer!" :lol:




I remember reading somewhere that this most often works.

By threatening to shoot and kill suicidals, officers take the decision and, therefore, the power out of the individual's hands.

Many 'suicidals' do not truly want to die. So, law enforcement may give them that extra incentive to step down from the ledge. With their choices suddenly limited, surrender may prove the most attractive option.

Those who do want to die still probably want it done on their own terms. Suicide is often about control: when everything else is reduced to chaos, the duration of our lives is still in our hands.

So, while I agree that it's a funny thing to do, I think it's great that police give people that extra time to reconsider. Or at least they try.

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Cameron]
    #9459593 - 12/19/08 12:11 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If that's the case, then it shows that police are right to tell people not to jump.


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: zouden]
    #9459612 - 12/19/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

sometimes I think suicidals just want someone to save them, kinda childish and insane to set up your own scenario where someone has to to tell you they love you and want you to live, but I guess we all atleast felt like we needed that strange comfort from someone, somehow at some point in our lives. (maybe they should actually do something meaningful for someone to get that reaction instead, acually put there sad ass to use and earn love.)

privacy is for the real suicidals.

somehow I feel like an ass after saying that.


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: JCoke]
    #9459629 - 12/19/08 12:27 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I used to have suicide ideation. Then I realised I was only fantasising about suicide from the point-of-view of those people who I knew would be affected by it. It took me a while for this to sink in, but eventually I realised this just meant I was seeking attention (or I was fantasising about this attention) ie: I wasn't really suicidal. Later, I learned that "suicide ideation" is a very common phenomena among young people. That was a big shock to me. I wasn't alone! After that, I stopped being concerned by it.

I've never actually admitted this to anyone. That's what I get for posting on the shroomery while drunk.


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Veritas]
    #9460228 - 12/19/08 03:38 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Veritas said:
Well, they can impose involuntary hospitalization on anyone who is deemed to be dangerously insane...does this mean that people are not "allowed" to be insane?




"Hospitalization","imprisonment"...words are fun.

To degrees, people are certainly not "allowed" to be insane. Definitely not in public anyway.

It is amazing how quickly the police and Doctors may arrive, upon actions deemed abnormal...or threatening, like nudity. :lol:


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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: figmentfragment]
    #9460236 - 12/19/08 03:40 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

We need to destroy this civilization.....

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Re: Why is suicide illegal? [Re: Poid]
    #9460868 - 12/19/08 08:00 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Poid said:
We need to destroy this civilization.....




we need to destroy all the fucking humanity and all the fucking world!

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