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HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP!
#9443876 - 12/16/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Over the past several years, I've tried my damnedest to NOT be enlightened. I've even gone so far as electroshock treatments (just burned my scalp and caused pain) and giving myself numerous concussions (my stupid friends called an ambulance on two separate occasions even though I told them that I couldn't afford it!!). I watch mindless television programs, read celebrity gossip magazines, played endless hours of online video games, and taken several "sure thing" prescription drugs (Prozac, etc.) and homeopathic remedies.
NOTHING has worked.
Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking. And before anyone suggests it, YES, I have been to a therapist (three, actually) - they don't seem to understand what I want.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9443901 - 12/16/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know whether to take this post seriously or not.
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9443931 - 12/16/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm quite serious.
I just need a break. For a few months, at least. If the process is not reversible, I'm fine with it.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9443953 - 12/16/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is this a joke?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9443958 - 12/16/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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What are your current undesirable symptoms? We have many ex-spurts here who should be able to help.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9443990 - 12/16/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like you already made it.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444007 - 12/16/08 02:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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hello,
Maybe it would help if you thought of it as awareness, rather than (purposefully?) obscuring the idea with the word enlightenment. Then you can be open to helping yourself, rather than numbing yourself; and fellow posters will be able to offer advice of what you can do.
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: daytripper23]
#9444066 - 12/16/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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discombobulate said: Is this a joke?
No.
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mushroom people said: Sounds like you already made it.
Nope... the connection is wide open, unfortunately.
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daytripper23 said: Maybe it would help if you thought of it as awareness, rather than (purposefully?) obscuring the idea with the word enlightenment. Then you can be open to helping yourself, rather than numbing yourself; and fellow posters will be able to offer advice of what you can do.
It's definitely enlightenment. No question. I'm not looking for comprehension or a challenge... I just want it to stop.
Any advice that works is MUCH APPRECIATED! Though if it works, you probably won't hear from me again.
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OrgoneConclusion said: What are your current undesirable symptoms? We have many ex-spurts here who should be able to help.
Symptoms... okay, well, I can't stop making connections to EVERYTHING around me. I can feel plants. I know what people are thinking with just a glance. I know the outcome of any Rube-Goldberg-type scenario BEFORE it happens.
It's too much pressure. I've been put into a position of great power (whatever, right?) and I feel obligated to use them to help. BUT I have failed to help on many occasions... I can't choose to help everyone all the time. So I've had to make LIFE OR DEATH decisions FOR OTHER PEOPLE. I could not abstain from intervening and not help ANYONE, but then I have to live with that on my mind. I can no longer do this.
I just want to go back to normal.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444076 - 12/16/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey hey Sclorch is back!
Good show
-------------------- Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it. ~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444080 - 12/16/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Flipping burgers can be very grounding.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444093 - 12/16/08 02:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like you have an energy problem. You need to ground and meditate. The people on this site can probably help. aypsite.com go to the forums and aks them.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#9444115 - 12/16/08 02:24 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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By the chart, you can tell he became enlightened in mid 2002.
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9444119 - 12/16/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Flipping burgers can be very grounding.
All punny business aside, I've poured myself into tedious, skill-less jobs to no avail. In fact, I tend to dissociate and daydream MORE. My body goes on doing this task, but my mind wanders off into the ether... and I STAY WITH MY MIND! It really sucks. To see yourself not even thinking about what your body is doing... and being unable to join in on the mindlessness.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444150 - 12/16/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you describe how it was that you came to be in this state?
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: it stars saddam]
#9444152 - 12/16/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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it stars saddam said: Can you describe how it was that you came to be in this state?
I'd rather focus on how to LEAVE THIS STATE.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9444156 - 12/16/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: By the chart, you can tell he became enlightened in mid 2002.
I would have guessed late 2005
-------------------- Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it. ~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#9444282 - 12/16/08 03:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let's talk about the future. Let's talk about dropping in, tuning out, and turning off.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444355 - 12/16/08 03:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: Over the past several years, I've tried my damnedest to NOT be enlightened. I've even gone so far as electroshock treatments (just burned my scalp and caused pain) and giving myself numerous concussions (my stupid friends called an ambulance on two separate occasions even though I told them that I couldn't afford it!!). I watch mindless television programs, read celebrity gossip magazines, played endless hours of online video games, and taken several "sure thing" prescription drugs (Prozac, etc.) and homeopathic remedies.
NOTHING has worked.
Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking. And before anyone suggests it, YES, I have been to a therapist (three, actually) - they don't seem to understand what I want.
I advise entering into a depressively downward spiral of heroin addiction. Works wonders, honestly.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deCypher]
#9444417 - 12/16/08 03:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have a fear of needles. I pass out when I give blood.
Also, I'm trying to be NORMAL... not an addict. I rarely do drugs these days.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444465 - 12/16/08 03:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You might want to scour this site for something that may help you: http://spiritualemergency.blogspot.com/
You should probably refer to your experience as a "spiritual crises" or "kundalini experience"; just so you will be taken a little more seriously.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444590 - 12/16/08 03:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: I have a fear of needles. I pass out when I give blood.
Also, I'm trying to be NORMAL... not an addict. I rarely do drugs these days.
But you are normal.. You broke free from the addictive behavioral patterns of everyday living by the tv and doing spiritually and intellectually unchallenged activities. That is being normal.. You just feel the way you do , because there are many who dont. It is a larger separation which caused the progress.. And now a minor one is causing thoughts of regression.
I dont know how to advise you on what you want. And probably wouldnt even if i did..
I am sorry for not meeting you expectations.. Nobody will tell you how to become unaware and disconnected again.. Normal ?? It has forsaken these lands
" A thousand years is but an instant. There's nothing new, nothing different. The same pattern over and over. The same clouds, the same music, the same insight I felt an hour or an eternity ago. There's nothing here for me now, nothing at all. Now I remember. This happened to me before. This is why I left. You have begun to find your answers. Although it will seem difficult, the rewards will be great. Exercise your human mind as fully as possible, knowing it is only an exercise. Build beautiful artifacts, solve problems, explore the secrets of the physical universe, savor the input from all the senses, feel the joy and sorrow, the laughter, the empathy, compassion and tote the emotional memory in your travel bag. I remember where I came from and how I became a human, why I hung around, and now my final departure is scheduled. This way out. Escaping velocity. Not just eternity, but infinity. "
-------------------- --------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9444707 - 12/16/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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That site only explains where I'm at... not how to escape it.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444761 - 12/16/08 04:17 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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What's so bad about it?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: jivJaN]
#9444808 - 12/16/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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jivJaN said: I dont know how to advise you on what you want. And probably wouldnt even if i did..
THAT is the problem!
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Grapefruit]
#9444809 - 12/16/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: What's so bad about it?
Look, I don't want to argue my decision. I don't expect anyone to understand. I'm just looking for a safe, painless way OUT.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444830 - 12/16/08 04:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just intrested that you could answer my question seeing as i know no way out. I don't want an argument though.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Grapefruit]
#9444944 - 12/16/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're enlightened, Im seriously pissed with Buddha for bullshitting all those years ago. Seriously, seek professional help or put up/shut up/try M&P
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444945 - 12/16/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking.
it's your thoughts you want to escape? do you feel 'all over the place', instead of centered and grounded?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: mr_kite]
#9444952 - 12/16/08 04:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ps Where's Veritas when you need her?!!
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deranger]
#9444966 - 12/16/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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deranger said:
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Sclorch said: Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking.
it's your thoughts you want to escape? do you feel 'all over the place', instead of centered and grounded?
It's all the obligation.
Why should I HAVE to do anything different? I don't want to role play. I don't want to fix the world. I don't want to be the guardian angel. I don't want to feel terrible because I didn't step in when I could have... or because I had to make a choice to intervene for one person instead of another.
I just want to exist.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445018 - 12/16/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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why do you feel obligated to have to do/be these things?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445035 - 12/16/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You havent been on all those weird sites lately have you?
Do what ever makes you feel right no ones going to stop you.
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deranger]
#9445066 - 12/16/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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deranger said: why do you feel obligated to have to do/be these things?
It's not a feeling, but a force of sorts.
The locus of my being gravitates to those in need, those in trouble, those in the crosshairs of impending doom, and so on. The pull is immense. I cannot explain precisely. It's like explaining an acid trip to someone who has never taken an entheogen.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445071 - 12/16/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have you thought about gathering several hundred of your closest disciples and moving to a remote jungle?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Konyap]
#9445074 - 12/16/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: You havent been on all those weird sites lately have you?
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aiyobro said:Do what ever makes you feel right no ones going to stop you.
I'm trying to... but I have no cure.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445087 - 12/16/08 05:14 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only way I'd really put it is you do what you got to do. Basing yourself around that judgement is just going to put you in the same spot before you even did anything keep you mind open.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445117 - 12/16/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Who are you, unnamed, alone?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445134 - 12/16/08 05:24 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch said:
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Grapefruit said: What's so bad about it?
Look, I don't want to argue my decision. I don't expect anyone to understand. I'm just looking for a safe, painless way OUT.
"Wrapped, surrounded by ten thousand mountains Cut off, no place to go-- Until you are here there is no way to get here. Once you are here there is no way to go." ~Yuan Mei
My advice would be to relax. Seek balance through diet and exercise. Learn how to meditate following the breath. Read. And try to find a good teacher, perhaps at a local Buddhist center.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445179 - 12/16/08 05:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch said:
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deranger said: why do you feel obligated to have to do/be these things?
It's not a feeling, but a force of sorts.
The locus of my being gravitates to those in need, those in trouble, those in the crosshairs of impending doom, and so on. The pull is immense. I cannot explain precisely. It's like explaining an acid trip to someone who has never taken an entheogen.
how do you know this 'force' isn't a subconscious desire that you mistake as something else? desires often force us into doing things or acting in ways we ultimately do not want to do.
or i could be completely misunderstanding
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deranger]
#9445556 - 12/16/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have no subconscious.
I can even feel chemical reactions... hormones... electrolytes... it's impossible to explain. Doctors thought I was playing a prank on them... they were rather freaked out. I'll spare you that story.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445579 - 12/16/08 06:35 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like there is only one way out - and you know exactly what I am talking about.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445618 - 12/16/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you really have all these powers, stop whining and be a hero.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9445619 - 12/16/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had this problem a few years back. I call it my "messianic" days. I know this force that you speak of. For me, what cured it, was simply time. After I didn't want the obligation anymore, that force just started going away.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#9446542 - 12/16/08 09:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Over the past several years, I've tried my damnedest to NOT be enlightened. I've even gone so far as electroshock treatments (just burned my scalp and caused pain) and giving myself numerous concussions (my stupid friends called an ambulance on two separate occasions even though I told them that I couldn't afford it!!). I watch mindless television programs, read celebrity gossip magazines, played endless hours of online video games, and taken several "sure thing" prescription drugs (Prozac, etc.) and homeopathic remedies.
NOTHING has worked.
Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking. And before anyone suggests it, YES, I have been to a therapist (three, actually) - they don't seem to understand what I want.
Thank you.
How about the very fact you cannot overcome your own metaphysical over-indulgence is indicative that you are not enlightened? Presumably, an "enlightened one" never succumbs to frustration, particularly in regards to his or her own state of affairs.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Arden]
#9446618 - 12/16/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Homeboy straight trippin.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Kupo]
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9446988 - 12/16/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow man. I am in the same boat as you.... Its hard to deal with man, it really is. I have tried to stop it which is what I am trying to do now and it seems as though I only get crazier when I do. Like the nothingness is clouded replaced with madness.
I Have only been experiencing it fully it for about 5 months but it is not what I expected. I wanted to know the truth so bad its like I killed myself to find it. It is cool sometimes but it seems with the way the world is today that it is debilitating and rather boring. I mean I am only 18 and I feel like I am done with everything so I am getting really sick of being here. I am trying to fall back into society, get a job, go to school all that stuff but it seems like so much bullshit and something I don't want to do.
I am thinking the process is irreversible though. Think of it like a ball of yarn with the truth in the middle. The yarn is what you thought you were. Your false identity(ego). Overtime you unrolled the yarn. At first small bits at a time then eventually you start unrolling it faster and faster until the yarn is completely gone and there is nothing left. Your entire ego is demolished. Your false self is all gone. It has been killed and it is not coming back. ate by the K snake never to be regurgitated. The nothingness or bliss is your true self.
There might be ways though. Still anything is possible. If you want to turn it off I would say try looking into the drug ibogaine. I was thinking about trying that for awhile. It is used for people with addictions to opiates and basically rewires the brain. If it can help with that it might be possible to stop kundalini and go back to an older way of thinking. I am not sure it would work so do your research.
I just want to make sure you feel like me... Do you feel like you are above everything? Like people are walking around inside you? Do you feel like pure light sometimes and like you have no self at all?
Just know you aren't alone though man. I have been doing the same thing... Playing video games, trying to make myself stupid but nothing seems to work. I can't even remember who I once was. I mean I still go to parties and stuff and It is hard being so different. Makes me feel dumb that I killed myself before I even got to have fun and do cool mindless stuff.
I have also been wondering if I am just schizophrenic which I am pretty sure I'm not even though Kundalini and schizophrenia are very similar.
It is like we are dead though man. Ego death and actual death are basically the same thing as far as I am concerned... You know how they say go to the light when you die? Well we did that while alive
I am just as confused as you on what to do. I thought being enlightened or whatever you want to call it would make life great and more enjoyable but it just makes everything the same. Everything looks the same, no emotion, no fun, no anything just nothingness and bliss and on bad times darkness.
I think we might just have to accept it and just be are entire lives which is depressing if you think about it from a lower perspective.
If you find anything that helps let me know. I feel like I am going crazy right now and really have no clue what to do.
-------------------- “The person lives most beautifully who does not reflect upon existence” - Friedrich Nietzsche "Change my mind so much I can't even trust it. My mind changes me so much I can't even trust myself."
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9447214 - 12/16/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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To stop the enlightenment, you must first accept the enlightenment....
>^;;^<
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9447234 - 12/16/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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So it's like being an alcohlic. To be cured, you must accept that you have a problem!
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Poid]
#9447262 - 12/16/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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YES....! I bet there is a 12 step program to become un-enlightened out there somewhere....
If that doesn't work, I would suggest looking into becoming a guru....
>^;;^<
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9447382 - 12/16/08 11:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just ask an agent to put you back into the matrix. Make sure that you specify a memory-wipe, though, or the cognitive dissonance will destroy you.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9447430 - 12/16/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Y'all keep forgetting the first rule of Enlightenment Club...
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9447473 - 12/16/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Sounds like there is only one way out - and you know exactly what I am talking about.
Vegas, Baby!!
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Veritas]
#9447479 - 12/16/08 11:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9447644 - 12/16/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You might try grounding without involving the upper chakras. Just belly breathe and allow your root to take the energy. Upper chakras may be open, but how they feel and affect you is dependent on the condition of the lower chakras. If your lower chakras are having problems, your upper chakras are too.
Honestly, I would relax and enjoy it while it lasts. People don't need saving. I mean, if you could occasionally save a life here or there, hey great, but for the most part people experience trouble because of the choices they make. Let them. Unless of course, they specifically ask for help, why should you feel obligated?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9447683 - 12/16/08 11:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha yeah I feel like the dude in the matrix that is is wondering why he took the red pill. I don't think I wont to be fully in 'the matrix' I just want an anchor to it ya know? I just feel like I am stuck outside the box.. I don't want to be back in it I just want to be anchored to it where I can real myself back into when I choose...
What is the first rule of enlightenment club?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: jivJaN]
#9447722 - 12/16/08 11:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Listen to Nickelback 24/7 until feelings of enlightenment subside. This should take 3-4 days. Stop listening to Nickelback once symptoms disappear.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Veritas]
#9447787 - 12/17/08 12:13 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Come spring we should rent a houseboat or two and have a big-ass gathering on Lake Mead for a major 3-4 day party.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9452066 - 12/17/08 07:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Listen to Nickelback 24/7 until feelings of enlightenment subside. This should take 3-4 days. Stop listening to Nickelback once symptoms disappear.
Just sit back, relax, and let your faith in humanity sliiip away. Aaaahhhh....
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9452101 - 12/17/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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PhanTomCat said: I bet there is a 12 step program to become un-enlightened out there somewhere....
If that doesn't work, I would suggest looking into becoming a guru....
If entertainment/popular culture and/or depressant drugs don't work, you're probably God.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9452131 - 12/17/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: Over the past several years, I've tried my damnedest to NOT be enlightened.
Well, stop trying. You are not enlightened so don't waste your time.
It seems you are simply bothered by your awareness of the world around you. You CHOOSE to be bothered by this. Make a new choice. Get over it or find yourself a padded room.
If you are trying to treat your enlightenment, you are treating the wrong symptom. Treat your depression. Treat your anxiety. Treat your delusions of grandeur. You are not enlightened.
This is the wrong forum for such a topic. We shouldn't talk about people personally in here, and this is a STRICTLY personal topic.
Good luck Sclorch and good to see you again.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! (moved) [Re: Sclorch]
#9452176 - 12/17/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Philosophy & Spirituality.
Reason: Requests for advice regarding mental well-being belong in Physical and Mental Well-being.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! (moved) [Re: Veritas]
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! (moved) [Re: it stars saddam]
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9453376 - 12/17/08 11:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sclorch I think a few people got it right, I did not read all of the responses.
You don't need to numb this stuff out or dumb down. What you really need to do is reflect on these feelings and meditate on them until you can come to a resolve. If meditation does not work perhaps you should try to take some kind of antidepressant or OCD medication. It sounds like you are obsessing on these feelings of 'enlightenment', whether or not they are truly that is another discussion.
Either meditate or medicate. Seems pretty clear cut eh?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9453521 - 12/17/08 11:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Stopped reading at some point, but it sounds like you just haven't found your woman/man/whatever yet. But I can't tell you what point I stopped reading. Anyways, great to see you posting, but why are you putting so much importance on living in some kind of unaware state?
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: fireworks_god]
#9454348 - 12/18/08 04:05 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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and your days of enlightenment will end soon, succeess guaranteed
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: ohmatic]
#9454408 - 12/18/08 05:03 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ohmatic said:
and your days of enlightenment will end soon, succeess guaranteed
Genius! problem solved.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: DimensionX]
#9455165 - 12/18/08 09:47 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think he mentioned wanting a painless solution.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Grav]
#9455201 - 12/18/08 09:56 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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sclorch, whats up dude :O
my advice: hit the gym, get back into your muscles and skin.
also, I don't know if you've tried this, but, move away. physically relocate. When I get too comfortable in the same spot I always start to play mindgames with myself.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9456545 - 12/18/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You have what I have been searching for my entire life?!?!?! And you DON'T want it. Damn your ungrateful. It sounds like you have an over-active crown and third eye and an underactive lower chakras, you need some grounding. Get some help from a reiki practitioner, it is all you can really do. The connections won't stop, but it will be bearable. Also, if you are ever disliking an awareness, an ego death can help, on the other hand it can blow your third eye (if it isn't already.). Do you have any sort of HPPD? If so, your third eye and/or crown chakra is over-active. You do not want to decrease how active the chakra is, you want to get it in balance with the rest, so strengthen the other chakras.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9457969 - 12/18/08 06:51 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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jesus will save you
that is no joke.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! (moved) [Re: it stars saddam]
#9458147 - 12/18/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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it stars saddam said:
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! (moved) [Re: Veritas]
#9458179 - 12/18/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Veritas said: <img src='http://www.shroomery.org/forums/images/moved.gif'> This thread was moved from Philosophy & Spirituality.
Reason: Requests for advice regarding mental well-being belong in Physical and Mental Well-being.
Is it too rude to
Seriously why don't half the threads go in the pub? Or any of the other forums? Why/where/when/what???????
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9458524 - 12/18/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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If that doesn't work, I would suggest looking into becoming a guru....
YE$$$$$ Bingo! Or, become a "New Age Practitioner" $ell some books! That is the fastest, tried and true way to kill enlightenment.
Watch how fast that ego inflates once you become rich
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9458560 - 12/18/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just turn off the light switch Oh enlightened one.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
#9460091 - 12/19/08 02:42 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Buckeye Oysters said: jesus will save you
that is no joke.
Haha, Haha, HAHAHAHAHA! Bullshit. Goodbye Watch Zeitgeist. See you later.
(I hope you weren't serious, if you are, WATCH ZEITGEIST, and don't let anybody else fall in the pitfall of Christianity.)
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9460178 - 12/19/08 03:14 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You sound narcissistic to me and closer to depression than a problem of thinking to much. Enlightenment produces joy. "Epiphanies" that deliver negative conclusions bring depression. Realize that whatever enlightenment/epiphanies you feel are bullshit because we are not capable of really knowing anything and what you are experiencing is depression.
Don't give yourself brain damage just keep seeking help. Best of luck and I know how you feel. But be honest with yourself.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: accountant]
#9505319 - 12/28/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: The Centre]
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Buckeye Oysters said: jesus will save you
that is no joke.
Haha, Haha, HAHAHAHAHA! Bullshit. Goodbye Watch Zeitgeist. See you later.
(I hope you weren't serious, if you are, WATCH ZEITGEIST, and don't let anybody else fall in the pitfall of Christianity.)
aaahahah... zeitgeist? i hope YER kidding.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9505698 - 12/28/08 03:51 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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go to a psychiactric ward and section yourself explain your symptoms act out your mind
you will be treated to a five star stay at the best mentalz institutions for an undefined period, upon your release you will be prescribed anti-psychotic drugs which should ratchet you down to zero and the zombified everyman state which you seem to miss so sorely.
hey presto! problem solved.
if for some reason this won't work then just act out the crazy, exacerbate any psychotic or unusual symptoms, act against the grain - have a public psychotic break. act weird around family, mention one time you are on ten hits of acid then attack a family member (a non-blood relation would be best) hopefully they will section you and you will be treated more seriously (you will) than in scenario one.
i can't believe i am describing these eventualities in a positive you-can-make-it-if-you-try fashion tbh but if you really want out that badly then this is what you want to be doing
you need them anti-psychotic droogz! but don't worry, its not like drug abuse when its prescription.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Jackenobi]
#9506885 - 12/28/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9508128 - 12/28/08 04:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thorazine
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: dr_gonz]
#9508744 - 12/28/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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this has to be a joke
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9518322 - 12/30/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread isn't ridiculous, or a joke. What you are looking at is one confused person trying to find themselves, and also providing a mirror for us to look into. It's a struggle we all share, to excape maya, to transcend the painful reality we have been given, and have perpetuated. Enlightenment is a state of true Love, and there is no pain in that reality. People are meant to be sensitive. It's a good thing. Many people want to ignore it, to seek pleasure (or numbness) and avoid pain, to call this seeking of Love a joke, to view the height of enlightenment as a painful place, not meant for humans... to live their lives in ignorance... and lies.
Meditation, psychedelics, etc. get a person to the doorway. In this doorway, all the repressed pain, and lies of the past, will begin to surface. Good work.
But this is not the time to stop. It's actually the opportunity that was worked for. Now that Samatha was successful, something else is needed.
-------------------- rahz comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace "The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid." - Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: dr_gonz]
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this is a joke. how could his problem be considered "enlightenment?"
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: dr_gonz]
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oh, ok...
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: dr_gonz]
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9526475 - 01/01/09 06:39 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: I'm just looking for a safe, painless way OUT.
"You reached for the secret too soon, and you cryed for the moon."
Edited by AmericanPsycho (01/01/09 06:49 AM)
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Rose]
#9526490 - 01/01/09 06:55 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cervantes said: It seems you are simply bothered by your awareness of the world around you. You CHOOSE to be bothered by this. Make a new choice. Get over it or find yourself a padded room.
If you are trying to treat your enlightenment, you are treating the wrong symptom. Treat your depression. Treat your anxiety. Treat your delusions of grandeur. You are not enlightened.
Yeah I agree, this is what's going on here. I had a friend sorta like this, but he killed himself. I would personally choose suicide over a padded cell. That would really be a living hell.
If you don't want to die, I'd recommend taking xanax, opiates, and anti-psychotic drugs everyday. Opiates are the only drug I know of that numbs you and will help you not give a shit.
Edited by AmericanPsycho (01/01/09 07:31 AM)
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9526507 - 01/01/09 07:07 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: Symptoms... okay, well, I can't stop making connections to EVERYTHING around me. I can feel plants. I know what people are thinking with just a glance. I know the outcome of any Rube-Goldberg-type scenario BEFORE it happens.
It's too much pressure. I've been put into a position of great power (whatever, right?) and I feel obligated to use them to help. BUT I have failed to help on many occasions... I can't choose to help everyone all the time. So I've had to make LIFE OR DEATH decisions FOR OTHER PEOPLE. I could not abstain from intervening and not help ANYONE, but then I have to live with that on my mind. I can no longer do this.
I just want to go back to normal.
No offense, but you sound like Charlie Manson. He thinks he's Jesus Christ too. . That's why these psychedelic drugs are illegal, we've already seen what they can do to the human mind.
Edited by AmericanPsycho (01/01/09 07:28 AM)
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: AmericanPsycho]
#9527251 - 01/01/09 12:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you don't want to die, I'd recommend taking xanax, opiates, and anti-psychotic drugs everyday.
Bad advice, in my opinion. Too soon, too much, too late, too bad. It's all crap. You guys are just validating the viewpoint, and feeding the sympathy.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9529026 - 01/01/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe your twin soul has remained in the spirit world and is having a hard time dealing with the separation and is trying to hang onto your spirit energy too much. You can meet your twin soul when you are both in human form and not recognize him/her immediately. Over time you may wonder why you are so obsessed with this person until you realize there is some kind of spiritual connection between you two. When trying to observe this connection, you may notice that you both have vibrational patterns and they are identical. You look at him/her and can see yourself in spirit like looking into a mirror. You may be startled when you realize that you are sharing the same soul somehow. Its seems absurd, but you know this. How is this paradox possible? It must be one soul experiencing multiple personality complete with two human bodies, one for each personality. You may then start remembering things from before this lifetime. You may remember being with them in a previous lifetime. You remember you both came from some glorious and holy place in the spirit world (heaven?). Your believe your connection is sacred and leads back to the source. The experience is so intense that most people can't stand it and most twin souls when meeting in human form become separated.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Luddite]
#9535939 - 01/03/09 01:55 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well if you are being serious
you need to ground yourself.
Go to a Honest Qi Gong Master.
Learn how to root.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9535959 - 01/03/09 01:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP I feel your pain. Ive been trying copious amounts of tv and video games in hopes of brainwashing me and makeing me "normal" My beliefs are still too far outside of the box to ever be considered normal and I still cant find a parallell in any common spirituality or religion.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: AmericanPsycho]
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AmericanPsycho said:
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Sclorch said: Symptoms... okay, well, I can't stop making connections to EVERYTHING around me. I can feel plants. I know what people are thinking with just a glance. I know the outcome of any Rube-Goldberg-type scenario BEFORE it happens.
It's too much pressure. I've been put into a position of great power (whatever, right?) and I feel obligated to use them to help. BUT I have failed to help on many occasions... I can't choose to help everyone all the time. So I've had to make LIFE OR DEATH decisions FOR OTHER PEOPLE. I could not abstain from intervening and not help ANYONE, but then I have to live with that on my mind. I can no longer do this.
I just want to go back to normal.
No offense, but you sound like Charlie Manson. He thinks he's Jesus Christ too. . That's why these psychedelic drugs are illegal, we've already seen what they can do to the human mind.
aaahhahah thats a great video "cant you see im out man? cant you see?"
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9541675 - 01/04/09 01:42 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you were truly enlightened, you would not need a 'break' from it.
you seem to be describing anxiety, or a case of 'thinking about stuff'. Use this and change your thoughts from negative to positive.
Try the book: Change your thoughts, change your life" by wayne dyer.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Patisotagami]
#9546827 - 01/04/09 08:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok scorch. first off how old are you? second is this a psychedelic induced enlightenment? or did it just happen?
my advice to you is meditate my amigo.
it sounds like your overwhelmed by your higher consciousness and i can see how you would just want to me normal as 90% of the population is stuck in a lower consciousness state of mind.
so it looks like your stuck. you should be happy, most people never even get a glimps of what you are experiencing daily.
Sit lotus position. breath in, exhale, breath in, exhale. so this for a good hour. focus only on your breaths. if you find your mind wandering check yourself and keep following your breaths. do this untill you dont think at all and are just aware of your inhales and exhales. i would say start at least a hour a day.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: sampsonyo]
#9546902 - 01/04/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Change your thoughts, change your life" by wayne dyer.
Send him a check while you're at it.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: sampsonyo]
#9546911 - 01/04/09 08:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.dhamma.org/
vipassana meditation will surley save you too.
i had a friend that was the guy who could always do the most drugs or whatever. he was hardcore but he payed for it later. he ended up having sever nervous system problems and developed a uncomfortable mental.
the only thing that saved him from suicide was vipassana meditation. look into it. there are free week long courses all around the country, and only ask for a donation if affordable. vipassana is where you meditate for a week straight. only breaking to eat. your not allowed to talk, move(unless you have to), or look at each other. just eyes closed solid meditation. truly a amazing experience.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: sampsonyo]
#9547807 - 01/04/09 10:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds fun
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9585859 - 01/10/09 08:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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didn't read thread.
take time to come up with beliefs and explanations for why you're not enlightened, or how bothersome perceptions may not be accurate.
then work on ignoring them, using counter beliefs and explanations to neutralize your feelings of enlightenment.
its a long process to reprogram your subconscious. there are probably quiet moments when you are functioning the way you want to function.
keep focusing on those moments, and keep telling yourself that you're wrong about your expanded awareness.
substitute one set of beliefs for another and perception will follow. find activities that make you feel normal, and focus on being normal while doing them.
you have to focus, you have to want to change, you have to have a good understanding for what should change, and then you just have to keep repeating to yourself over and over what you want to be.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9592299 - 01/11/09 10:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.idealia.ca/ a fledgling community of spiritual exploration. the insights of an enlightened one would be highly prized.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Mitchnast]
#9592571 - 01/11/09 11:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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read some replies.
IMO meditation is a bad idea. you don't want to do anything that opens you up more or gets your brain going.
meditation can cause mild to severe negative reactions in some people. Its defintely not a cure all.
i suspect most people find meditation harmless because their minds are weak. i've gotten about as high off meditation as tripping, and its alot scarier because you're doing it to yourself and once it starts you have to use your brain to stop it.
http://www.arcanology.com/2002/09/06/the-dangers-of-mediation/
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: truekimbo2]
#9593176 - 01/12/09 02:52 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, you are biased. It's like saying don't take drugs or you could go crazy; the odds are low and the gain of trying it out outweighs the chance of a bad trip while meditating.
It's good advice if you ask me, but who am I to say?
I think the people that end up with problems from drugs/meditation need to find ways to use their sixth sense to their advantage. Stop bothering with the negative aspects and turn them into positive. Easier said that done, but meditation can help that.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: tempingasashaman]
#9594157 - 01/12/09 10:45 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Many different ways to meditate. The weakness is in continuing to make the same mistakes.
IME, people find that kundalini meditation works and they think it's the be all end all. So they push it. Once it's perceived as dangerous, they may either try harder (perhaps not so good) or they quit (perhaps not so good).
It would be a good idea, at that point, to consider further education, instead of finding a way out.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Rahz]
#9596259 - 01/12/09 05:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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try this or this
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: it stars saddam]
#9606523 - 01/14/09 07:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I want to give advice. But it won't probably be heard. For people with strong spiritual propensities they need a good daily practice which rather points out what's important and allows one to relax their mind and be calm. This is not so difficult but what is hard is finding a teacher with a practice that one feels really good about. For myself I found TM until Maharishi and his org fell to pieces then I turned Buddhist and found Kunzang Lingpa a very liberated being, to my mind. He gave me a practice and told me to do it seven years. I liked the practice. I do it. I feel okay with all things spiritual now having cut through all diversity to see the natural clarity of the moment - itself which is full of joy, if you can calm the mind and heart and just let it be. Some of this - just letting it be - is perhaps some of the essence of wisdom. Some enlightened individuals still do a daily practice, yes, to remind them.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: eve69]
#9606786 - 01/14/09 08:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Lion]
#9611231 - 01/14/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just keep helping people and feeling up plants. Youve permanently altered your mind for the good. Just go with the flow. Dont worry, I think you'll find your enlightenment quite useful in the coming days.
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9611264 - 01/14/09 09:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude I know where you can find the answers: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
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AmericanPsycho
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: XD40]
#9613324 - 01/15/09 08:15 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think he needs a padded cell in my opinion
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