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jivJaN
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444590 - 12/16/08 03:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: I have a fear of needles. I pass out when I give blood.
Also, I'm trying to be NORMAL... not an addict. I rarely do drugs these days.
But you are normal.. You broke free from the addictive behavioral patterns of everyday living by the tv and doing spiritually and intellectually unchallenged activities. That is being normal.. You just feel the way you do , because there are many who dont. It is a larger separation which caused the progress.. And now a minor one is causing thoughts of regression.
I dont know how to advise you on what you want. And probably wouldnt even if i did..
I am sorry for not meeting you expectations.. Nobody will tell you how to become unaware and disconnected again.. Normal ?? It has forsaken these lands
" A thousand years is but an instant. There's nothing new, nothing different. The same pattern over and over. The same clouds, the same music, the same insight I felt an hour or an eternity ago. There's nothing here for me now, nothing at all. Now I remember. This happened to me before. This is why I left. You have begun to find your answers. Although it will seem difficult, the rewards will be great. Exercise your human mind as fully as possible, knowing it is only an exercise. Build beautiful artifacts, solve problems, explore the secrets of the physical universe, savor the input from all the senses, feel the joy and sorrow, the laughter, the empathy, compassion and tote the emotional memory in your travel bag. I remember where I came from and how I became a human, why I hung around, and now my final departure is scheduled. This way out. Escaping velocity. Not just eternity, but infinity. "
-------------------- --------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Epigallo]
#9444707 - 12/16/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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That site only explains where I'm at... not how to escape it.
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Grapefruit
Freak in the forest
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444761 - 12/16/08 04:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's so bad about it?
-------------------- Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. "Chat your fraff Chat your fraff Just chat your fraff Chat your fraff"
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: jivJaN]
#9444808 - 12/16/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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jivJaN said: I dont know how to advise you on what you want. And probably wouldnt even if i did..
THAT is the problem!
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Grapefruit]
#9444809 - 12/16/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: What's so bad about it?
Look, I don't want to argue my decision. I don't expect anyone to understand. I'm just looking for a safe, painless way OUT.
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Grapefruit
Freak in the forest
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444830 - 12/16/08 04:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm just intrested that you could answer my question seeing as i know no way out. I don't want an argument though.
-------------------- Little left in the way of energy; or the way of love, yet happy to entertain myself playing mental games with the rest of you freaks until the rivers run backwards. "Chat your fraff Chat your fraff Just chat your fraff Chat your fraff"
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mr_kite
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Grapefruit]
#9444944 - 12/16/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you're enlightened, Im seriously pissed with Buddha for bullshitting all those years ago. Seriously, seek professional help or put up/shut up/try M&P
-------------------- let yourself be silently drawn by the stronger pull of what you really love
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deranger
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9444945 - 12/16/08 04:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sclorch said: Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking.
it's your thoughts you want to escape? do you feel 'all over the place', instead of centered and grounded?
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mr_kite
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: mr_kite]
#9444952 - 12/16/08 04:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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ps Where's Veritas when you need her?!!
-------------------- let yourself be silently drawn by the stronger pull of what you really love
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deranger]
#9444966 - 12/16/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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deranger said:
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Sclorch said: Any suggestions? Please keep in mind that I am trying to AVOID PAIN in my plan to stop thinking.
it's your thoughts you want to escape? do you feel 'all over the place', instead of centered and grounded?
It's all the obligation.
Why should I HAVE to do anything different? I don't want to role play. I don't want to fix the world. I don't want to be the guardian angel. I don't want to feel terrible because I didn't step in when I could have... or because I had to make a choice to intervene for one person instead of another.
I just want to exist.
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deranger
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445018 - 12/16/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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why do you feel obligated to have to do/be these things?
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Konyap
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445035 - 12/16/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You havent been on all those weird sites lately have you?
Do what ever makes you feel right no ones going to stop you.
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deranger]
#9445066 - 12/16/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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deranger said: why do you feel obligated to have to do/be these things?
It's not a feeling, but a force of sorts.
The locus of my being gravitates to those in need, those in trouble, those in the crosshairs of impending doom, and so on. The pull is immense. I cannot explain precisely. It's like explaining an acid trip to someone who has never taken an entheogen.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445071 - 12/16/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you thought about gathering several hundred of your closest disciples and moving to a remote jungle?
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Konyap]
#9445074 - 12/16/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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aiyobro said: You havent been on all those weird sites lately have you?
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aiyobro said:Do what ever makes you feel right no ones going to stop you.
I'm trying to... but I have no cure.
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Konyap
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445087 - 12/16/08 05:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only way I'd really put it is you do what you got to do. Basing yourself around that judgement is just going to put you in the same spot before you even did anything keep you mind open.
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xFrockx
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445117 - 12/16/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who are you, unnamed, alone?
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Lion
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445134 - 12/16/08 05:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sclorch said:
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Grapefruit said: What's so bad about it?
Look, I don't want to argue my decision. I don't expect anyone to understand. I'm just looking for a safe, painless way OUT.
"Wrapped, surrounded by ten thousand mountains Cut off, no place to go-- Until you are here there is no way to get here. Once you are here there is no way to go." ~Yuan Mei
My advice would be to relax. Seek balance through diet and exercise. Learn how to meditate following the breath. Read. And try to find a good teacher, perhaps at a local Buddhist center.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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deranger
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: Sclorch]
#9445179 - 12/16/08 05:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sclorch said:
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deranger said: why do you feel obligated to have to do/be these things?
It's not a feeling, but a force of sorts.
The locus of my being gravitates to those in need, those in trouble, those in the crosshairs of impending doom, and so on. The pull is immense. I cannot explain precisely. It's like explaining an acid trip to someone who has never taken an entheogen.
how do you know this 'force' isn't a subconscious desire that you mistake as something else? desires often force us into doing things or acting in ways we ultimately do not want to do.
or i could be completely misunderstanding
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Sclorch
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Re: HELP ME!! I'm Enlightened and I Want It to STOP! [Re: deranger]
#9445556 - 12/16/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no subconscious.
I can even feel chemical reactions... hormones... electrolytes... it's impossible to explain. Doctors thought I was playing a prank on them... they were rather freaked out. I'll spare you that story.
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