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anakin3197
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cobweb after dunking
#9443196 - 12/16/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey in my las 2 grows, the first flush have been great, but after i dunk them and put back in the fc, they get cobweb mold, after a day or 2, and i end up throwing them away, cuz i dont wanna risk it. so heres what im doing. after the first flush is done, i pick the aborts off, and soak in water for 12-18 hours, and then i drip dry and put back in the fc. does ne1 know what can be causing theis, or how i could fix it?
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9443213 - 12/16/08 11:40 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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are you sure its cobweb? and h2o2 can kill cobweb
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: grod31]
#9443237 - 12/16/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think. its white and looks like it has the texture of sand. it wipes off with a qtip. if i leave it in insolation, the white will turn into green or a yellow color. and it only happens after i dunk it
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9443254 - 12/16/08 11:50 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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You sure its cobweb? you asked on Contamination forum section and they guys said it cobweb indeed?
Well its very suggested to dunk overnight inside a fridge, the low temp prevent bacteria and contamination growth.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: dstark]
#9443261 - 12/16/08 11:51 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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shit, didnt put it in contam forum. im sorry.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9443262 - 12/16/08 11:51 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you post pics please? That would make it easier to help you.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9443267 - 12/16/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i threw them out before i thought bout asking, anf they got spaghetti sauce in them now, lol
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: dstark]
#9443274 - 12/16/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
dstark said:
Well its very suggested to dunk overnight inside a fridge, the low temp prevent bacteria and contamination growth.
There is no need to dunk in a fridge. I have never dunked in a fridge and I have not had any problems with contams from dunking.
OP, What are you using for a substrate and how are you making it?
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9443278 - 12/16/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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brf tek. it only happens after i dunk, i dont understand
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9443283 - 12/16/08 11:56 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is this a recurring problem? Or was it only on one grow?
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9443290 - 12/16/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 grows back to back. and their fine until i dunk them
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9443344 - 12/16/08 12:13 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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That sounds odd to me? I have no idea.
Here is a great thread for newbies and experienced growers to read. Myths, outdated info and common bad advice! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9435695/an/0/page/0
Somewhere in that thread it mentions the "dunk in the fridge" comment from above.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9443539 - 12/16/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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It sounds like you tossed out perfectly good cakes. Dunking doesn't cause contaminants, especially if you rinse well under the faucet both before and after the soak as recommended. It's common for a fluffy white mycelium to grow after soaking. Cobweb is gray, not white. RR
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9443849 - 12/16/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
anakin3197 said: i think. its white and looks like it has the texture of sand. it wipes off with a qtip. if i leave it in insolation, the white will turn into green or a yellow color. and it only happens after i dunk it
Are you sure that its turning green and not blue? And the yellow could be mycelium piss.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9445327 - 12/16/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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im postivite that its turning green and yellow, las time it was gray. but this time it was white same texture as before, but it had tints of green coming on. las time it was green and yellow. ive got 1 more cake from that dunk, so far it hasnt had anything weird on it. in a way i hope it does so i can take pics and post them,. the yellow wasnt like a myc piss yellow it looked different.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9445906 - 12/16/08 07:42 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9445918 - 12/16/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks. every jar of rye that ive tried to grow ends up with that Bacillus. weird.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9445923 - 12/16/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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thats what was on the cakes, the las pic top row, under cobweb
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9445995 - 12/16/08 07:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have the same problem with grains, I have done two batches so far and both got that bacillus too. 3 jars the first time and 5 out of 6 in the last attempt. But I do have one jar of WBS that is just fine and I am spawning that to some coir/coffee/verm in the morning. I also have some South American and Ban Hua Thanon PF cakes that are all ready, that I will be breaking up and spawning to this mix. As far as the cobweb, I dont see how a simple dunk will cause this but it must be happening. Try to rinse them before and after you put them in the dunk water like RR said above. And H2O2 will get rid of cobweb. Do a search and I am sure you can find the tek to do that. Good luck. Peace.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9446018 - 12/16/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have done a lot of wbs. no problem. but rye, lol thats all it is for me.. shit i didnt realized i was suppose to wash of when dunking for the second flush, before or after. i bet thats where i went wrong.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: anakin3197]
#9446045 - 12/16/08 08:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could be.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9446065 - 12/16/08 08:12 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had problems with wet spot in my half-gallon jar of grain. It needs to be PC'd for 2 hours. I tried 60 minutes and 90 mins, both got contamed with bacteria right away. Tried again with 120 mins, and it's doing wonderful.
Here's what cobweb looks like up close and personal and next to healthy mycelium for comparison.
Grows fast a shit too. those pics were 3 days apart.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: Spongiform]
#9446094 - 12/16/08 08:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have also seen cobweb in those hidden tupperwares in the back of the fridge, You open it up and you see a huge cobweb growth, close the lid and throw it all in the trash.
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Re: cobweb after dunking [Re: creekfreek]
#9446136 - 12/16/08 08:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just toss my contam'd jars into the PC for 90 mins, dump em out back and wash the jars out to re-use.
Every once in awhile I'll find a cup of coffee/soda hidden in some corner of the house and it'll eb filled with some crazy molds.. just soak em in hot soapy water for an hour then wash them out.
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