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OfflineDoctorJ
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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: ]
    #2888337 - 07/14/04 01:41 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Any narc that actually posted on this board would be extremely obvious to everyone except those of the most minimal intelligence. I've met so many narcs in my life and they have always stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

but rest assured there are a few of them always lurking...

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2888688 - 07/14/04 05:20 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

oh?

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: ]
    #2888740 - 07/14/04 06:39 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

DoctorJ - never underestimate Your enemy.
I don?t think narcs are stupid. I bet they have a whole team for working with communities like this one.

It?s good to live outside the USA. Still not perfectly safe.
I think it?s true that they?re after the "big guys" and a petty n00b who?s trying to get his five cakes fruit is not really of their interest. But if this n00b is not careful enough I see no reason for narcs NOT to bust him.
For example - just go to Grow Log and Pictures and check the biggest harvests. Voila - You?ve got a list of the "big guys". There are countless other ways. From simple logic and common sense to linguinistic analysis.
If You?re a narc - make believe You?re not. Play the game. Post whoring. Post pr0n, be witty, original, lalala. It?s TOO easy. Get a reputation. 5 shrooms ratings. >1000 posts. Do some trades. Lalala...  Voila - You?re a respected and loved Shroomerite.
Except one thing - noone has ever seen You in real life and done drugs together with You. But fuck it. Narc?s job is to find out as much information about You as possible! Not everybody can get to gatherings anyway.
In a couple of years time of collecting the information from the posts, it is possible to put together more than You think...
Any Shroomerite whom You don?t know can potentially be a narc. Just ask Yourself - how many shroomerites do You really know?
If someone gets busted with the help of this Shroomery narc/-s, 99% we won?t find out about it anyway. And he?ll continue his dirty job.
They could also be gathering information for some large scale future operation.
I?m sorry this post is kind of messy :smile: But get the point?

DEA is just one of them. Don?t forget that every country has it?s legal institutions, plus interpol, europol, UN and many more...

Be smarter than the bitch!



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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: ivi]
    #2888748 - 07/14/04 06:50 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Ivi is next on my list..

oops!

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Barbi]
    #2888751 - 07/14/04 06:52 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

:ass: 


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: ivi]
    #2889330 - 07/14/04 11:39 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Here are some precautions, ummmmm, another shroomerite told me to take. anyone other then me... :smirk:

Well, first of all obviously hide your IP behind a firewall. Second, if you are serious about growing, and want to socialize, make yourself a puppet account for your grow questions. Try not to get to personal. We all make slip ups sometimes. Remember you can always take back what you've said with the edit function. Hopefully before LEO stops by to moniter. When meeting shroomerites in real life, make sure not to have any drugs on you. If you want to bring some smoke or something anyways, I suggest leaving it in your car until you feel its safe. All in all, people who sit here and post are putting themselves at risk compared to people who just lurk on here for info. People who just come by for grow info I would say are way safer then people who are here for grow info AND socializing.

But if they really wanted to bust the 'average' shroomerite and werent about busting people who make a living off of growing and shit, then they could just raid a shroomery gathering. Thats the only thing that scares me away from the gatherings. First, you make it public exactly when and where it is, then when ya'll come back from a gathering its all like "yeah, this shroomerite bought these drugs, and this one brought this awesome stuff, and this one gave out free shrooms, and this one hooked us all up with *drug* for a awesome deal!". Ummmm, talk about making shit obvious, and I'm guessing things like that could be enough for a warrant. If anyone ever posts on here that they got drugs from me I will cut them off and/or whoop their ass. anyways, I have a hard time trusting people though, and I'm always hella paranoid, but thats cause I literally can't go to jail because of all my family responsibilities, so I take the extra steps.. but have definately had to edit out some personal info in the past  :tongue:


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: ivi]
    #2889336 - 07/14/04 11:40 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

looking at that pic of yours ivi, those pot plants are pretty weak, but there are a lot of them. probably gonna be an outdoor grow from what it looks like, too unorganized to be an indoor grow op. said that someone got busted with that many shitty little plants.

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Anonymous]
    #9032463 - 10/05/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah theres no doubt in my mind that there is some form of government intel apart of shroomery, as big and popular as it is. But i dont think they are here to bust ppl. IP addresses are a nice idea, but whos to say a member here is using someone elses computer, say the computers in the waiting room of our local hospital(such a genius idea). Its too much effort, besides, they want the big deals, like the guy thats importing the contraband on his personal jet liner. Their more concerned with the new/old BIG guys making money outside the inner circle of the CIA(Contraband Import Agency). So small time ops like us, they could care less about....just dont mention the lbs u got hidden ANYWHERE for safe measures, lol. peace.

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #9033268 - 10/05/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Lightningfractal said:
I wouldn't show a grow-op at all.




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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: misos]
    #9033287 - 10/05/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

just don't be a dumb ass and post personal info (IE. Adress, etc..)


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: unbeliever]
    #9033339 - 10/05/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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unbeliever said:
From the DEA types I've talked to (I have one for a teacher right now, ex-DEA anyway) they really don't give a shit about the users. They want the guys who smuggle in 25,000 lbs of marijuana on a jetliner. Key words for the dea types, posession with intent to distribute. It'd be like the fbi kicking down your door to serve a summons for a traffic ticket...

Of course they CAN fuck with you if they want, but generally they have better things to do with their time. I do expect they have people cruising the internet (and the streets, etc) to keep fresh on the latest slang, trends, etc. Otherwise, *shrug*.




Anyone I knew that got busted was busted by the DEA but they weren't bringing in that much. At most one guy might have had $6,000 worth of coke and a few pounds of weed, another would pick up 30-100lbs but he wasn't smuggling it.  Still small time compared to others but none the less the DEA came the local cops probably asked for their assistance in gathering information and busting them, I remember smoking a joint hanging out with some of them and someone drove by taking pictures he later got busted.


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: mephisto256]
    #9033407 - 10/05/08 04:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you, O nublet of 12 posts, for the 4 year necro.


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: RuNE]
    #9033706 - 10/05/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

We've already seen LEO on this site.  Members have openly admitted to being LEO.  Let this thread die in peace.

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Helixx]
    #9033933 - 10/05/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I've had chats with the po-po and many of them are either oblivious to the reality of the drug scene or actually agree that many drugs should be legalized.

Our ex-chief of police said we need to legalize all drugs and reform the crazy policy.

If you actually talk to the po-po about it you realize
1) They agree with you but prefer to follow the rule book
2) Lack understanding of what drugs are
3) Are power crazed because they were bullied at school and enjoy pissing people off in any way possible

I think we should start arresting animals - after all, reindeer get high on amanita's, monkeys share psychedelic caterpillars.  How comes animals get to get high without arrest?  Humans are animals too.  All creatures on this planet are symbiotic.

When I was busted for weed, the pig held up my baggie back at the station and said "anybody want a smoke?" and they all laughed.:mad2:

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Ego Death]
    #9033966 - 10/05/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

im a narc dude, ill totally sell you out... -.-

i mean...anyone wanna meet up and sell me some drugs? im looking for 3 pounds of drugs. >.>


cops look at facebook, theyre probably all over here too.


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: gofudgeyourself]
    #9033992 - 10/05/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

there are special internet watchers at all major law enforcement agencies around the world. their job is to monitor the internet for threats of school shootings, child pornography, that sort of a thing.


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: splifftoter]
    #9438812 - 12/15/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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splifftoter said:
fuck that sucks that happened to someone...how the hell do you tell whos a narc and whos not?





Well, usually when they are a witness that isn't for the defense!

They surely cruise the forums as individuals, never heard of a program funded to pay for people to simply research the boards.

But they do learn a lot about what people are doing more than arrest reports, far more.  Which is why plant materials that we presume are legal and aren't is on the way to being targeted (although the vendors get away easily and people will always order from someplace else, overseas "vendors" that make a nice living off of selling herbs that aren't native to others)......and is my idea of free-trade.

If they think they knew who you are and that they hate you, and you make fun of them enough.........they will post something, had that happen on another forum.......said something about their personality that is true and they were the only one to defend cops!

They are usually a bunch of A-holes paid to be violent, basically a bunch of state paid/federal paid felons.....they break laws that would be felonies for other people........and sometimes are exactly that, paid felons........felons paid to go out and do work for them

Most narcs make money and not just get charges dropped!

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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: TreeMoss]
    #9438879 - 12/15/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I would hope not, but its obvious that this site is definitely tracked by some pretty important people. If I ever did do a grow-log or needed to ask some questions I would most likely make an account that was tied to a different IP address. But it'll be all right guys, we just need to keep each other safe!


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Rocker232]
    #9438939 - 12/15/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

This thread is from 2004, it's been revived once since, let's not do it again.  It's done, over, finis...


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Re: have we ever found a narc on these boards? [Re: Rocker232]
    #9438953 - 12/15/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Rocker232 said:
I would hope not, but its obvious that this site is definitely tracked by some pretty important people. If I ever did do a grow-log or needed to ask some questions I would most likely make an account that was tied to a different IP address. But it'll be all right guys, we just need to keep each other safe!




Never heard that they track IP's for people posting crimes, could be international issues there (although  Interpol could make that easier to get around).  They do trace IP's for credit card/identity crimes, harassment, child porno and predator type things.

Even another IP won't make it so they couldn't intercept data or track you through the IP's......Feds are better at that, tracking hackers and the like.

Mostly, don't do long term huge grow threads......with past large grows, showing photos of ancient things....that is easier to sleep with....but people get away with large grows posting real time data.

They just don't think they can show a judge the info then go spook people, but with pervert things that is an easy one.

If they intercept data even with IPs, there is information about your personal computer woven in with other data......serial numbers for computers and if you have real info on your windows setup...like your real name instead of business X or whatever it is they ask you to call your computer.

It's mostly realistic paranoia, not traditions law enforcement...but they don't get any softer do they?


Ya, on a canna forum; it was said that IrfanView threads info in the photo data/program data about the camera used, like serial number and the like.  Electronics have more than an IP address, that is your net serial number; electronics have specific info themselves......scary really!  Mostly since I never broke it all apart, to think about how to hide it all.


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Edited by TreeMoss (12/15/08 06:41 PM)

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