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best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir
    #9435803 - 12/15/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

just wondering which casing layer has the better yield cause i plan on casing 8 1/2 pint brf jars and was wondering which of these will give me a good amount and how much b/w 8 cakes?

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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: YungSupreme]
    #9435819 - 12/15/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

:rolleyes:

Coir/dung is basically used as a bulk substrate. Peat is used as a casing material.  If you are looking for yield mix the cakes with coir/manure then case with Peat moss and vermiculite.

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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: YungSupreme]
    #9435831 - 12/15/08 10:12 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Dung wouldn't be a suitable casing layer. A casing layer wouldn't have much effect on your yield. I think you have your terminology confused. A casing layer isn't a bulk substrate.


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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: bait_]
    #9435832 - 12/15/08 10:12 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

What about using 50/50 straw/manure??

That is what I plan on using for bulk after my first few successful grows.


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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: flip3084]
    #9435836 - 12/15/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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flip3084 said:
What about using 50/50 straw/manure??





That'll work as a great bulk substrate as well.

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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: bait_]
    #9435851 - 12/15/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

ohhh got cha cause this is my first grow im just gonna go wit thet peat moss

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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: YungSupreme]
    #9435867 - 12/15/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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just wondering which casing layer has the better yield cause i plan on casing 8 1/2 pint brf jars and was wondering which of these will give me a good amount and how much b/w 8 cakes?




if u got brf cakes dont break them up unless you are spawning to bulk , fruit them with a simple layer of verm on them .. of the 3 mediums u listed only 1 is a casing material ... casing material is non nutritious ... now if you're making some cased bulk substrates coir and poo 50/50 are good to spawn to ...

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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: YungSupreme]
    #9436914 - 12/15/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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ohhh got cha cause this is my first grow im just gonna go wit thet peat moss



I would sub coir instead of peat. do like 60/40 or 50/50 with coir and vermeculite.  I just cased with peat, bought 2 bags and wish i never did... I just got me some coir:headbanger:


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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: ICdeadPeople]
    #9436943 - 12/15/08 01:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I think you got your terms a bit mixed up.

Your bulk substrate is a mixture of stuff that has nutritional value.  Coco coir, poop, coffee, compost, corn cob, etc.

Your casing layer is made up of non-nutritional stuff like peat moss, vermiculite. It's job is to provide moisture/humidity and lock out contamination.


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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: Spongiform]
    #9436961 - 12/15/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Don't mix casings and bulks.

Coir, poo, straw = bulk substrates
Peat & verm = casing materials

ALTHOUGH you can mix some verm in your bulk substrates to improve texture and water retaining capabilities.


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Re: best yield peat moss,dung,or coco coir [Re: dead]
    #9436992 - 12/15/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Peat and coir are good casing material. Yes, coir has nutrition but that does not mean it isn't a great thing to add to casings. coir/verm works just as good, imo better than peat/verm.  With peat, myc energy is wasted by colonizing the peat. When myc starts to colonize coir, it actually grabs onto more nutrition, and coir is the perfect consistency for a casing layer.  Only difference i notice in using them is that coir will colonize faster, and turns reddish in color when it gets dry.

Of course if you use coir, just mix it in 1:1 with the brf, and your yield will double. Don't even have to case a coir sub.  I like coir/straw/coffee/verm and dont even case it most of the time.


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