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OfflineAgaricusbisporus
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Was it Cobweb??
    #9428159 - 12/14/08 01:52 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So... Cakes were birthed a week ago. EQ on Sat. and B+ on Sunday. 5 EQ cakes were dunked for 12 hours, and then B+ for 12 hours in room temp.... same tub same water (basically one group out another group in). Then rolled, the ol dunk and roll (sterilized the verm).

For four days it looked like nothing was happening, maybe some hyphal knots here and there. A little, what looked as white as myc, fuzz was growing on one of the B+ cakes. Fine, too much humidity + high temp (though it was low 70s i think). Fanned more.

Then noone was around to fan for 3 days, polyfil was put in the vented tops. The next time the cakes were seen the B+ cake was fuzzy as hell, and the fuzz was present on the other cakes, but not as strongly.

The box smelled like clean myc, but the fuzz looked very webby, but was pretty white, not grey. But when H202 was spritz on the fuzz it retracted quickly.

Now, up until the cakes were birthed sterilization methods were pretty good. I think where shit went down hill was when the dunking water was kept at room temp and not changed between cake batches. Thoughts are that a bacteria bloom formed by the time the B+ went in to dunk.

This would explain why fuzz was on the B+ cake first to appear (the water contams had a chance to multiply), and then that cakes cobweb spread to the whole terrerium.

Question is, it was white and didnt smell off. But it looked webby, like fine spun cotton... could it have been young myc?

2 EQ cakes and 1 B+ cake with 50/50+ were cased and in 3 days ropey myc broke the surface, but with that same questionable fuzz present too. The cakes were chucked, but the casings are being treated with H202, and the fuzz has receded, but I cant help thinking... maybe its young myc. is young that wispy (as it looks when spores first germinate)? Does young myc hate H202??

Any thoughts???


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Re: Was it Cobweb?? [Re: Agaricusbisporus]
    #9428336 - 12/14/08 02:47 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

without seeing pics, I'm guessing it was myc that was growing on the verm on your cakes and on the casings. If it was cobweb, you would spray the H2O2 on it and it would disappear. Continually spraying your cakes/casing with peroxide will not help the myc. Some mycelium will recede a bit just from misting it with water, so don't assume that because some of it is disappearing that in must be cobweb.

Continue misting and fanning. The best preventative measure to avoid cobweb is fresh air, not peroxide. Don't toss your cakes because of cobweb. Prevent cobweb with fresh air, destroy cobweb with peroxide, maintain your grow with high humidity, misting and fresh air.

Mycelium is often mistaken for cobweb by noobs, don't be one of them :lol:


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Re: Was it Cobweb?? [Re: FooMan]
    #9428556 - 12/14/08 04:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

And ALWAYS... ALWAYS post pictures for the more experienced eye, when in doubt.  ^_^


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Re: Was it Cobweb?? [Re: Agaricusbisporus]
    #9428792 - 12/14/08 06:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Not cobweb. Lack of FAE caused the mycelium to start overgrowing your cakes. All it would have needed would have been to introduce some vigorous FAE, not tolchocking your mycelium with H2O2. Relax and be patient.


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Re: Was it Cobweb?? [Re: Hallucinogenist]
    #9429054 - 12/14/08 08:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Hallucinogenist said:
And ALWAYS... ALWAYS post pictures for the more experienced eye, when in doubt.  ^_^


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OfflineAgaricusbisporus
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Re: Was it Cobweb?? [Re: Blutjager]
    #9429673 - 12/14/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

hahaha patience is truly the name of the game!

Never seen cobweb before, but had a couple of simple grows under the belt.

But a lack of FAE without high heat would cause the fuzz? I thought those two went hand in hand.


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Re: Was it Cobweb?? [Re: Agaricusbisporus]
    #9431984 - 12/14/08 06:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Lack of FAE leads to high C02 levels which is not good for fruiting.


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