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Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed
    #9387896 - 12/07/08 10:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Are there any orange A. muscaria look-alikes, because I found this growing under an oak tree, aren't they supposed to grow alongside conifers?. Sorry it broke from handling, I forgot to bring my camera out with me

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Habitat,  Growing in central valley california under an oak tree next to the river

Gills;  Pure white, free

Stem; Pure white, ~  8 inches tall by ~3/4" thick

Cap; ~ 8 inches wide orange with white warts, striate edge

Spore print; white

Bruisinng; none


Also found a few growing on fallen trees

#2





Habitat; Growing from a fallen rotting log

Gills,  vary from white to dark salmon colored, free

Stem; White, solid, 3-4 inches  stained orange/brown from spores

Cap; Brown, smooth, 2 1/2 to 4 inches wide some staine orange brown with spores

Spore print; Will take a pic tomorrow if needed, but is orangish brown

Bruising' none noticed

#3
This one almost looks like a lactarius, except it has a pointed cap




Habitat; In rotting twigs and leaves

Gills; Decurrent, yellow, strongly bruising reddish brown

Stem,  Yellow with red,  thick ~3 inches

Cap; slightly pointed, brown interlaced with red, hairy (for lack of a better word) especially on the outside edge of the caps

Spore print;  Still very weak, will take a pic tomorrow if necessary, but so far looks brown, but to weak to notice any subshades

bruising; brownish red

#4

I really don't know how to give a good ID request for these,  but I'm pretty sure they're edible






They have a tender fleshy feel to them and were growing on a fallen log, aren't these medicinal?


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: ngnyus]
    #9388063 - 12/07/08 10:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think #3 is paxillus involutus, right?


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: ngnyus]
    #9388122 - 12/07/08 10:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe related, but paxillus involutus has a depressed pileus according to Mycoweb. To add to that I think you are correct in that ID. While google imaging paxillus involutus I saw a picture with very similar mushrooms, and almost identical bruising.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: ngnyus]
    #9388275 - 12/07/08 11:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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ngnyus said:
I think #3 is paxillus involutus, right?




I agree, #2 is a pluteus, probably, Pluteus cervinus.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: falcon]
    #9388323 - 12/07/08 11:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i thought they were pluteus too, but he said they have orangish brown prints, not pink - like pluteus do.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: CptnGarden]
    #9388391 - 12/07/08 11:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, it def. looks like Pluteus cervinus, but the spore print is definitely orange/brown, 


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: ngnyus]
    #9388881 - 12/08/08 12:37 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

When I first started taking prints, this confused me. Your print is in the color range for a pluteus print, check out the
print on Michael Kuo's site for Pluteus cervinus. Salmon is the color I use to describe pluteus prints.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: falcon]
    #9389035 - 12/08/08 12:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yeah heres kuo's cervinus print



pink to pinkish brown


i dunno, neither his nor ngnyus' print looks very "pinkish brown", but i trust your judgement falcon :grin:

they do rather look much like pluteus.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: ngnyus]
    #9392344 - 12/08/08 04:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Are there any orange A. muscaria look-alikes, because I found this growing under an oak tree, aren't they supposed to grow alongside conifers?.



A muscaria could be labeled the whore among the mycorrhizal mushrooms. They are known to associate with oak, pine, birch, beech and drunken sailors if they manage to keep standing upright long enough. Yours do look like a. muscaria in any case, although worn down somewhat. You go easy on those little girls there, now.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: koraks]
    #9393754 - 12/08/08 07:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The Paxillus is probably P. vernalis

I have those ALL OVER my yard. I have paper birch trees.


Actually this one may be involutus.

Mine are almost definitely vernalis


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: El Zorro]
    #9394009 - 12/08/08 07:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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The Paxillus is probably P. vernalis

I have those ALL OVER my yard. I have paper birch trees.


Actually this one may be involutus.

Mine are almost definitely vernalis




Yep, it could be either one, these two species look a lot like each
other.

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Are there any orange A. muscaria look-alikes, because I found this growing under an oak tree, aren't they supposed to grow alongside conifers?.




There are some look-alikes, check out this thread,
Guide to Hunting Fly Agarics in North America.


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Re: Strange find and some woodloving mushrooms, ID help needed [Re: falcon]
    #9395095 - 12/08/08 10:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the link, and thank you all for the help, I seem to have great luck with edibles and Amanita's (probably because I've found em before), but I can't seem to get it right with actives, I guess I'll just have to keep trying til I get it right, any tips are appreciated, especially with gym's since I don't know where to find any wood chip piles or manure locally.


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