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unitybrodel
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green mold forever?
#6617163 - 02/27/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have some small green spots on my casings in my FC. Im gonna try to fix em - im already dissapointed that my first grow will probably go to shyte. My question is will green mold ALWAYS attack my casings in that chamber no matter how much I do to sterilize if before I use it again? Im gonna try to fix it by digging it out and putting salt in the void and a good bleach water spray. What else is reccomended? I'm pissed b/c as soon as I saw my first pins - I saw my first contamination. Also, there is some grey looking fuzz on top of the myc. What might that be? There is also some yellowing of the myc but I think thats from water droplets. By the way - this all happened pretty much over night...daaaamn! I have aquarium pumps going 24/7 too so my FAe should be good and I have the humidity at 100% and the temp around 74.
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: unitybrodel]
#6617278 - 02/27/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ugh. Sounds bad, I advise getting that out of your house as soon as possible, if you ever wish to grow successfully in the future. The green mold is white- it is composed of mycelium, as all molds. As the spores mature, they turn green. you will not be able to remove the mold by simply scooping out the green areas. The green is only the spores, not the mold itself. The grey sounds like cobweb or some other kind of mold, which will soon, if not already, begin to sporulate. Get it out, the longer it is in your house, the less likely you will be able to grow again, contaminant free. Spores will spread.
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: CureCat]
#6619014 - 02/28/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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You have trichoderma and cobweb mold going. NEVER try to cut mold out. It only spreads the spores around your house and all over you and your clothes, contaminating everything.
Bleach doesn't kill mold. You can dip trichoderma in ten percent bleach and it won't kill it. For that matter, you can dip trichoderma in pure bleach and it won't kill it. Bleach kills bacteria and mold spores, but not live mycelium.
Sterilizing a fruiting chamber is not necessary. I don't even use soap anymore. I just rinse out with water and put back to use. You prevent molds by having proper FAE, which you won't get with an aquarium pump. You need to drill holes all over your fc and also fan a few times daily. The more air you give, the less chance of contamination.
3% peroxide will kill cobweb mold on contact. However, with trich growing which you can't kill, you need to get that FC cleaned out asap. Toss the contents or put them outside if it's warm enough. They will usually recover and fruit outdoors. RR
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6632630 - 03/03/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wait, RR, sorry if I'm hijacking, but how does FAE prevent molds? I though the more exchange, the more air is moved and therefore the more chance of a silly spore wandering in the FC?
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: Tobolam]
#6632801 - 03/03/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tobolam said: Wait, RR, sorry if I'm hijacking, but how does FAE prevent molds? I though the more exchange, the more air is moved and therefore the more chance of a silly spore wandering in the FC?
i think the FAE doesnt allow the mold spores to settle onto your casing and take a foothold
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: odium33]
#6633364 - 03/04/07 01:55 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Uhhh.... no, certainly if spores are in the air, they will be able to settle. Think about it - Take a pile of damp vermiculite or coir or whatever, and blow a small amount of flour quickly over top the surface, then inspect. Surely some flour will have been able to set down on the somewhat damp, and uneven surface.
I think what FAE does is create an inhospitable environment for mold spores to be able to germinate and colonize. This same environment is necessary for healthy mycelium growth.
Optimally, you would have your FC in a relatively sanitary room, so that your project is not exposed to a great many competing spores.
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: CureCat]
#6633996 - 03/04/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Molds grow in stale, still air. It doesn't matter how many contaminant spores land on your project, they won't be able to grow if you keep the air moving and fresh. Sterility is for preventing contaminants in spawn, air exchange is for preventing contaminants in fruiting chambers. RR
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Re: green mold forever? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9386131 - 12/07/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi, I was just wondering about the holes everywhere thing. I made a pmp (poor mans pod) with a fish pump. I know you dont believe those will work, but dont they help a little bit? Anyways, if I leave the fish pump in just for a little extra help with fae because I'm not home enough to fan constantly is that a good idea? And if I do cut holes in my tank how do i keep the humidity up? I currently use lava rocks, but should i switch to perlite? I made a post the other day about my casings not pinning, but they currently are begining to pin very well, but I had a little bit of cob web mold growing on them so i sprayed with 3% h202. Will the peroxide hurt my pins?
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