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Re: AMERO Video [Re: memes]
    #9346552 - 12/01/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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meams said:
If the AMERO comes, it will come with the consent of the people - so dont' worry about it.  It can't be forced upon us unwillingly, otherwise every politician would lose their seat in office.




Like federal income tax, social security, the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act? Americans didn't vote for these things. Our government and politicians forced them upon us. You don't seem to have a clue as to what's REALLY going on behind the scenes, just what the media and government have been spoon feeding you. The central banks and large corporations are really running this country, not our goverment, not the people. Anyone who believes otherwise truly has the wool pulled over their eyes.

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Re: AMERO Video [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9346620 - 12/01/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I'm pretty sure the Amero is tied in with NAFTA somewhere. Yeah i believe its going to happen. I've never seen CONgress pass anything good for the people. The way electing congress works is just as much as a scam as the country election for the president. One way or another, if they want a bill passed it WILL pass. Sadly most people do not pay attention to the bills that go to congress or the senate unless its on cnn.

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Re: AMERO Video [Re: Chemy]
    #9347473 - 12/01/08 09:10 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I am not aware of any negative consequences that would impact America if the Amero were adopted, which is why I asked what the consequences could be, from an opponents perspective, but since you keep dodging the issue and can not produce any specific consequences, I retain my positive position in support of the Amero.




I retain my position that u suck donkey dick.


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Re: AMERO Video [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #9347960 - 12/01/08 10:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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You give NO reasons why you consider either currency to be positive for Europe or America, in spite of my asking twice.




You never asked not even once, I am posting all of your quoted posts from this thread as proof.

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LunarEclipse said:
I provide a link detailing why the Euro has very real problems which you either don't read or at least don't even comment on or refute.





You provided a link to a BLOG, and no information on that blog is sourced, I don't comment on or waste my time with unsourced information or blog links that are posted as credible sources of information.

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Then, you somehow expect me to debate with you on the subject of what consequences of possible future introduction of the Amero without me knowing what possible future events led up to the possible future introduction of the Amero. 




So, what you are saying is you don't know why the Amero is a bad idea, you just don't like it, and won't debate it.

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So, perhaps you could provide at least a reason in your own words or a link or SOMETHING as to why you think the Euro has been such a success.  Then, perhaps you could give a reason why you "retain (your) positive position in support of the Amero".  If you are so positive in your position surely there must be a REASON or you wouldn't make such a statement.  Or are you always so positive with a "hunch"?

Seems to me you are the one "dodging the issue".




The Euro is a stable currency with low inflation and low interest rates, it makes travel easier and the Euro facilitates trade within Europe.

I think the Amero would be good idea because there would be a lower rate of inflation, improved trade within North America and price transparency.

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You think the Amero is a good idea because of how well the Euro has worked for Europe?  :lol:  The Euro has very real problems.

http://prudentinvestor.blogspot.com/2008/10/euro-has-very-real-problems-and-nobody.html

Since you think the Amero is such a good idea then why would you even have to wonder what the consequences could be if the Amero were to replace the US dollar?




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Now I'm really confused.  First you say the Amero is a good idea, and then say you are not aware of the consequences of a transition to the Amero.

No offense, but as they say in the financial world "you need to do your own due diligence". 

Sincerely, Lunar



Nowhere in any posts of yours in this thread did you ask why I think the Euro or Amero is a good idea.

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Re: AMERO Video [Re: Chemy]
    #9350524 - 12/02/08 10:50 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Chemy said:
The Euro is a stable currency with low inflation and low interest rates, it makes travel easier and the Euro facilitates trade within Europe.

I think the Amero would be good idea because there would be a lower rate of inflation, improved trade within North America and price transparency.





Good ideas die hard...


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Re: AMERO Video [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #9350667 - 12/02/08 11:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah plus the fucking King of Spain gets all of the toll money for 50 years!!

Fuck that!

I don't think the elitists are aware of what Americans are capable of when they're fed up.


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Re: AMERO Video [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #9355636 - 12/03/08 12:15 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Chemy said:
The Euro is a stable currency with low inflation and low interest rates, it makes travel easier and the Euro facilitates trade within Europe.

I think the Amero would be good idea because there would be a lower rate of inflation, improved trade within North America and price transparency.





OK here's a chart showing just how "stable" the Euro has been vs. the US Dollar.  Does this look "stable" to you?

http://www.metaquotes.net/forex/eurusd/

As to the Amero, are you also in favor of a North American Union of the U.S., Canada and Mexico leading up to a common Amero currency with the three countries?  How do you feel about the Trans Texas Corridor and the ongoing taking of land by eminent domain from Americans to build a toll road that is foreign owned by a Spanish company?





How does showing volatility compared to the dollar, if this is what you're claiming, establish the euro as unstable?  I'm sure chemy is talking about a currency whose value doesn't change much  over time.  Are we presuming the dollar doesn't change in value during the period of comparison or something?  I don't get your point.


I would be against a unified currency in general as I don't think we should give up part of our soverignty to an outside group and allow politicians to escape blame for their doings or allow the group to take abusive actions without recourse.  And if the US ran the currency it would seem like it may be unfair to other countries.

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Re: AMERO Video *DELETED* [Re: johnm214]
    #9356401 - 12/03/08 07:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: AMERO Video [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #9363007 - 12/04/08 12:10 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Why would you think I would think differently?


And I don't understand the relevance of the other words.  While I agree with your definition, I'll repeat the observation that the fact that something is volatile with respect to somethng else doesn't mean that it is volatile as to a third thing.

You claimed that the value of the euro is volatile.  Then you switched and said it was volatile as to the dollar, and you've not explained the relevance.

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Re: AMERO Video [Re: johnm214]
    #9364508 - 12/04/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
Why would you think I would think differently?




Why indeed?  I can't think of a single reason since A.  I don't know you and what you think and B. I don't know you and what you think and C.  I don't know you and what you think and D.  All of the above.


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