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Green_T
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Athiest propaganda
#9361943 - 12/03/08 09:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone else notice how there is atheist propaganda popping up places? It kind of disturbs me because even though I am atheist myself, its pushing beliefs on other people, which i dont agree with... It is comparable to seeing propaganda saying "the only god is the christian god" or some shit. Kind of elitist IMO...
Atheist bus advert in UK
there is also something slamming religions next to a nativity scene in the washington state capitol building.
anyone else think the atheists should stick to themselves?
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Green_T]
#9361952 - 12/03/08 09:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Atheism is just as bad as Christianity. None of them seem to understand that.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Green_T]
#9361955 - 12/03/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree 100% Atheist should not become an organized religion like the rest of the.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Green_T]
#9361961 - 12/03/08 09:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heh, faith(as opposed to experiancing something divine) comes off as ignorant to me. I can't say I'm "atheist", but compaired to those bible toters I'd say they are infinately less...retarded. That's the word, faith=retarded. It's like me saying there are pink gorillas in Mexico, and you just nodding your head"yes suprime overloard, whatever you saaay."
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Green_T]
#9361995 - 12/03/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i get really tired of egomaniacal atheists. i'm a science major, believe me i know lots of them, and they think they have all the shit in the universe figured out. but the one glaring fallacy is that atheism takes a leap of faith in itself, since there is no method of testing a hypothesis about a "god" or creator in a religious sense, there is no way of proving one way or the other the existence or non-existence of god. so, atheism = faith. religion = faith. its all the same.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Hendostan]
#9362015 - 12/03/08 09:42 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting point. I believe that in general an atheist belief system is more flexible because the sense of what is right or wrong isnt found in old books.
Speaking of which, few people piss me off more than young earth creationists.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: doom876]
#9362043 - 12/03/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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doom876 said: Heh, faith(as opposed to experiancing something divine) comes off as ignorant to me. I can't say I'm "atheist", but compaired to those bible toters I'd say they are infinately less...retarded. That's the word, faith=retarded. It's like me saying there are pink gorillas in Mexico, and you just nodding your head"yes suprime overloard, whatever you saaay."
There's plenty of faith in Atheism.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Hendostan]
#9362046 - 12/03/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hendostan said: i get really tired of egomaniacal atheists. i'm a science major, believe me i know lots of them, and they think they have all the shit in the universe figured out. but the one glaring fallacy is that atheism takes a leap of faith in itself, since there is no method of testing a hypothesis about a "god" or creator in a religious sense, there is no way of proving one way or the other the existence or non-existence of god. so, atheism = faith. religion = faith. its all the same.
Atheism has one leg to stand on, logic and science. Though imperfect, it's better then "the Bible says it" reasoning.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Green_T]
#9362059 - 12/03/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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green_titan said: Speaking of which, few people piss me off more than young earth creationists.
yes, there are few people in the world less reasonable and less intelligent
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Green_T]
#9362070 - 12/03/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I could care less what they do.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: doom876]
#9362087 - 12/03/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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doom876 said: Atheism has one leg to stand on, logic and science. Though imperfect, it's better then "the Bible says it" reasoning.
But logic and science dont support athiest ideals...
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: doom876]
#9362095 - 12/03/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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doom876 said: Atheism has one leg to stand on, logic and science. Though imperfect, it's better then "the Bible says it" reasoning.
that's not true. atheism claims to have the answer to metaphysical questions, such as 'is there a god'? even though science is not equipped to explore those questions. so if you claim to be an atheist, while science might contribute to that belief, it isn't able to verify your beliefs
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I care because they are giving atheists a bad name. spreading that propaganda just breeds resentment and intensifies what is already there.
EDIT: atheism allows for logic and reasoning, where it often conflicts with religious ideas. For a long time the church imprisoned people for saying we had a heliocentric solar system.
Any atheist that claims they KNOW there isn't a god is full of shit. they can believe it, but thats about it.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: doom876]
#9362125 - 12/03/08 09:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Scientific theories do contradict bible myths, but denying a religion is not equivalent to accepting atheism.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: Hendostan]
#9362153 - 12/03/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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doom876 said: Atheism has one leg to stand on, logic and science. Though imperfect, it's better then "the Bible says it" reasoning.
that's not true. atheism claims to have the answer to metaphysical questions, such as 'is there a god'? even though science is not equipped to explore those questions. so if you claim to be an atheist, while science might contribute to that belief, it isn't able to verify your beliefs
I said I'm not an atheist if you read my post. Atheism means you don't follow a theocratic belief like Christianity. You can not follow those and still have a spiritual side of some sort. There are levels, as there are with Christians I'd think to some extent. I'm more Agnostic and searching for reason By the way, religion has caused alot of shit(ask Galalaio and the people at the Salem Witch Trials). Fuck it, even if Atheism is just as faith filled, it hasn't been on the giving end of an Inquasition. Yeah, people did it, but religion was a catalist.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: doom876]
#9362182 - 12/03/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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militant atheism is awesome.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: doom876]
#9362207 - 12/03/08 10:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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doom876 said: Fuck it, even if Atheism is just as faith filled, it hasn't been on the giving end of an Inquasition.
Were you asleep during the 20 century? Nearly all the large scale war and oppression done in those hundred years were done by atheists or at least secularists.
Militant atheism, as mentioned above, has killed and oppressed many millions of people.
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: DieCommie]
#9362214 - 12/03/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ya?
Even if thats true so has everything else so who cares?
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It means one shouldn't point to religion as a scapegoat for oppression, and one shouldn't delude themselves into thinking atheism is always benign (as it appeared he did).
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Re: Athiest propaganda [Re: DieCommie]
#9362249 - 12/03/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Point taken.
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