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TiT Question
    #9356413 - 12/03/08 09:36 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think my TIT is the cause of my rye grain jars stalling.

How can I fix this problem. The Temp is always at a steady 77-79.


I can't leave the jars out in the open because the owner never puts the heat on.  So a TIT is my only steady source of heat for my grain jars.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: deathw]
    #9356467 - 12/03/08 10:03 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ummm what ? you want to no know how to make a stalled grain jar colonize?
the only trick for that is flip it upside down.
what dose this question have to d with a TiT if you topic question had anything to do with your question you might have got an answer quicker.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: grod31]
    #9356473 - 12/03/08 10:05 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think he meant that the jars are stalling because his TiT isnt heating up enough because his landlord doesnt turn the heat up enough.
Anyway, get another heater in the TiT and you should be fine for heat.
And if that doesnt work, try turning them upside down like grod said.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: creekfreek]
    #9356691 - 12/03/08 11:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: TiT Question [Re: warGOD]
    #9356704 - 12/03/08 11:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

are they brf jars or wbs?

anyways youll be fine if you want to fruit in the TiT - i think thats what you began to talk about... - just put some polyfilled holes on the sides about an inch about the substrate. maybe leave a fan on in the room to create some air movement. then you can create almost an automated TiT.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: drjugglz]
    #9356714 - 12/03/08 11:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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are they brf jars or wbs?

anyways youll be fine if you want to fruit in the TiT - i think thats what you began to talk about... - just put some polyfilled holes on the sides about an inch about the substrate. maybe leave a fan on in the room to create some air movement. then you can create almost an automated TiT.




thats not where i was getting to..... so i have no idea where u got this from. Im asking how can i help stalled grain jars in my TIT

what does WBS matter? its rye berries.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: deathw]
    #9356729 - 12/03/08 11:14 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

so youre using rye grain? give that jar a shake!! i like to shake my jars when theyre about 10%, then 50%, then 75%... this helps speed up the process.

the problem with the stalled jars maybe lack of moisture. or maybe too much of it. shake it or flip it - whichever you prefer and watch it for a couple days. maybe mark where the growth is at right now before you flip it to see if it has progressed some.

also what is the temp in the tub itself? mine usually stays at around 80 if i can. but i have pretty old aquarium heater... its been running 24/7 on full blast for 2 years. lol.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: drjugglz]
    #9356777 - 12/03/08 11:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

They were shakin ranging from 30-60% as some were more than others.  I think there is to much co2 building up as I'm not home enough to fan the tit as RR said once on a post, so that's why I was looking for another solution to get the co2 out while they sit an colonize

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Re: TiT Question [Re: drjugglz]
    #9356791 - 12/03/08 11:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

drjugglz
you are recommending 3 shakes before colonization and one of them at 10% colonized?- i would think that would slow down growth, everytime that thing gets somewhere it gets pulverized and has to mend itself before colonizing anymore.
i wouldn't recommend that at all. i would recommend one shake at 50% and that its.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: deathw]
    #9356795 - 12/03/08 11:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Like I said before in the post the temp is ranging from 77-79, but mostly 79


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Re: TiT Question [Re: deathw]
    #9356804 - 12/03/08 11:28 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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deathw said:
  I think there is to much co2 building up as I'm not home enough to fan the tit as RR said once on a post, so that's why I was looking for another solution to get the co2 out while they sit an colonize

If anybody gets me....




what type of lids do you have ? c02 buildup in the jars should not be present to the point they will stall jars. jars don't need to be fanned.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: grod31]
    #9356817 - 12/03/08 11:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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drjugglz
you are recommending 3 shakes before colonization and one of them at 10% colonized?- i would think that would slow down growth, everytime that thing gets somewhere it gets pulverized and has to mend itself before colonizing anymore.
i wouldn't recommend that at all. i would recommend one shake at 50% and that its.




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Re: TiT Question [Re: Damion5050]
    #9356823 - 12/03/08 11:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

to each his own. its worked great for me. may not for others.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: drjugglz]
    #9356871 - 12/03/08 11:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Just what RR said in his one video my lids have 4 holes at 1/16th size and two pieces of tyvek on them

When I said fan I was saying it toward the tit to get some fresh air in there as the air has to be stale


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Re: TiT Question [Re: deathw]
    #9363540 - 12/04/08 04:51 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody has any resolutions on fixing a buildup problem in a tit? I'm sure somebody has experienced this before....


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Re: TiT Question [Re: deathw]
    #9363563 - 12/04/08 05:00 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im experiencing it right now :lol:

cakes seem stalling, but grain blowing up.

same as you, its a constant 77ish degrees.

only thing is, my jars are in the water :lol:

and how do u know theyre stalled and not just slow colonizing?

mark the jars, and see if the myc is colonizing.


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Re: TiT Question [Re: drjugglz]
    #9363570 - 12/04/08 05:03 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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so youre using rye grain? give that jar a shake!! i like to shake my jars when theyre about 10%, then 50%, then 75%... this helps speed up the process.

the problem with the stalled jars maybe lack of moisture. or maybe too much of it. shake it or flip it - whichever you prefer and watch it for a couple days. maybe mark where the growth is at right now before you flip it to see if it has progressed some.

also what is the temp in the tub itself? mine usually stays at around 80 if i can. but i have pretty old aquarium heater... its been running 24/7 on full blast for 2 years. lol.





Before I get to my quote, what's a TiT?

Now, as far as the quote:

1)  Is there an over-all consensus or majority that says whether shaking is beneficial?  It seems like a lot of Teks suggest it, but people say it breaks the Mycelium and forces it to repair itself (stalling it temporarily).

2)  Does the aquarium heater work right without being submerged?  Or do you have water in your fruiting chamber?


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Re: TiT Question [Re: Hallucinogenist]
    #9363586 - 12/04/08 05:09 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

H, its a TiT (tub in tub)

the bottom tub has water and a heater, the second tub fits in it and pushes the water up the sides. making a heater around the inside tub.

shaking is a must...but not a HAVE TO


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Re: TiT Question [Re: just me]
    #9363636 - 12/04/08 05:44 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Alright.  That explains it.  I was gonna use a TiT, I just didn't know it.. :-P


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Re: TiT Question [Re: Hallucinogenist]
    #9365522 - 12/04/08 02:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i just took mine apart today for cleaning, and there was black mold, and some wierd white whispy almost myc looking things floating around btwn the two tubs.

took all jars out, wiped down with bleach, took the tubs outside and sprayed down with bleach.

fuck that incubator. guess my grain/cakes will have to attempt to colonize at FUCKIN COLD

not really sure what temp that is...


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