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exzile
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BRF cake additives?
#9353348 - 12/02/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i know this has been asked so many times and i have searchd but couldnt find what i was looking for. i want to make the best cakes posible. does anyone have any additives i can add to my cakes to beefen them up, like peat moss, sawdust, ashes, etc. right now the only combo i have is corn inside a few jars that was left of from wbs.
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9353378 - 12/02/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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bee pollen, flax seed, shredded coconut meat, corn meal, kelp, etc
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: danielx]
#9353392 - 12/02/08 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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and of course the most important ingredient, love
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exzile
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: danielx]
#9353413 - 12/02/08 07:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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do u know which each additive does to the cake or mushrooms? like increase growth, cololinzation, fruits....
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9353443 - 12/02/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can use watered down coffee to hydrate it instead of regular water. It speeds up colonization.
The last batch of cakes I made, I just added a few coffee beans to the grains as I ground them into flour. It';s been 4 days since I inoculated (via LC) and some of the cakes are halfway colonized already.
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9353444 - 12/02/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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from what i understand, brown rice itself is about the most nutritious thing for myc. I've heard of people having good results rolling in peat instead of verm.
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: Spongiform]
#9353625 - 12/02/08 07:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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do you think i can used ground coffe instead of coffe beans?
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the walrus
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i am wondering this as well i just got my spores so im making all my jars tomorrow but is there anything that is shown on a majority of cakes to increase yield? or size? or potency? or a combination of the 3? that i could easily go out and get tomorrow?
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9354131 - 12/02/08 08:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea flax seed is a good additive, Youll have to get it at a health food store tho..
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the walrus
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and how much to add?
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: the walrus]
#9354524 - 12/02/08 09:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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flax seed? i wana throw like 4 things inside these brf cakes, if no one experiments with this stuff im have to start experimenting and labeling my work and post it for u guys.
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9354660 - 12/02/08 09:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the problem i have had with flax seed is it congeals somewhat when you mix it in. maybe i was just using to much
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: doze]
#9355032 - 12/02/08 10:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what about peat moss? or lime? bone meal? blood meal?
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9355750 - 12/03/08 12:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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With cakes don't bother with any additives. Additives are for bulk substrates.
The cake formula is tried and tested and has one of the highest biological efficiencies among the different substrates.
Messing about with the formula is risking total failure. Bulk substrates are a lot more forgiving than the PF mix.
I would not recommend any modification but if you really must, don't do anything but the coffee ones.
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: Nibin]
#9355766 - 12/03/08 12:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i do cakes with wbs flour instead of brf never had a problem i have 1/2 pint jars 100% in 12 days with lc
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Re: BRF cake additives? [Re: exzile]
#9355869 - 12/03/08 01:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have never understood why people make it so very complicated for themselves. Now, if you have time and want to experiment, that's another thing. But if you just want to grow shrooms, then go the KISS way (keep it simple, stupid!). Adding extra steps of work is introducing possible points of failure. And as it has been said, BRF has everything that the mushies need to prosper.
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noobieshroomie
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i have GREAT results with brf just wanted to try something new i prefer brf over any other kind of cake i just like to tinker sometimes
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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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That's what I meant when I said "if you have time and want to experiment".
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i have too much time some times on my days off im always lookin for new stuff to try some works,some dont have you seen the shrooms growin from the bible? im thinkin of trying that with a phone book
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Best Thread Ever
CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.
Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!
GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT
ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef
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Quote:
noobieshroomie said: have you seen the shrooms growin from the bible? im thinkin of trying that with a phone book
Ha, that would be cool.
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