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2002 Azure Hunting!!
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This will be my official 2002 azure hunting thread. I will post updates as to the hunting conditions in Astoria and neighboring cities. I will post pics of my finds.

I encourage all of you to post the same and to post any ??s about azure hunting here.

The season shall soon be upon us!!!

Dobie asked a ? in another forum, I will address it here. He wanted me to advise him of locations on the Oregon side of the Columbia for picking azures.

While I can not divuldge my favorite locals for obvious reasons, I will name one location that is easy to find and that has great hunting grounds that follow the standard azure habitat.

Ft. Sevens State Park is a great spot to find azures growing in Maratime grass covered dunes. There are several roads labeled according to the letters of the alphabet, give that a shot.

Here is my favourite pic from last years hunting:



Here is one to show the beauty of the azurescen:



Here are some links to last years hunting results:

Oregon Hunting

Azures!!!

Swamp Boggin? it in Astoria!

Memories 2001 Azures Josh, Azurepower

Here is a link to current Astoria, Oregon weather.

Enjoy!!!

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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do these things really lose as much potency when drying as I hear they do?

might as well hunt cyans then, I hear they don't lose much potency at all when drying.. you can only keep a mushroom fresh for so long. did you find any cyans last year Josh?

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Snobrdr311]
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I vaguely recall a reference to sustained potency after drying. I thought that the reference stated they retain a good portion of potency. I'll see if I can find the reference.

I ate them as dry specimens only and they were decently powerful. I don't like the azure trip however. I find that I feel something different in them that affects my muscles in a negative way. I have had the same experience w/ cyans.

I did not hunt for cyans last year. I hope to head up to the Puget Sound area for some cyan hunting this year though.

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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explain more about this negative muscle affect.. you don't get this effect with cubes or pans I take it hey?

weird.. thanks Josh

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Snobrdr311]
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Read this trip report:

7 g Azure Trip.

I ate 3.5 grams cyans a couple of weekends ago. I felt the same muscle weakness as w/ the azures. I had problems later in the trip focusing my eyes. It was as if my muscles for focusing were drunk, it was not comfortable for me at all. My arm muscles and my leg muscles were a little weak and shakey. The whole trip was 7 hrs or so, the muscle phenom lasted from about the 4 th hour to 12 hours.

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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so is it the same degree on cyans? less, more?? cyans and azures deliver the same trip pretty much?

very interesting trip report.. wow.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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wow! I loved this post last season too! Im always surprised by the size of azures - they are big mushrooms for woodlovers!! And id say that due the high levels of psilocybin detected in this mushroom, that it should maintain potency after drying. Cant wait to may here when our rain starts to see if we can get them up and running down under.
They are very similar to Australian species - in particular we have a newly discovered mushroom in Australian - possibly ps.eucalypta - that is very similar to this mushroom
keep us informed Joshua!!


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
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compare with:



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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Perhaps the muscle thing could be attributed to something other than the mushrooms themselves. like your physical health and strength?
or maybe not.
2 cents

peace

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: damnfunkypro]
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according to MJ Azures and Beaos lose a good amount of potency when drying, cyans do not.

this again according to Mushroom John.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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Well I think it is a great find! good job!!!!

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Unity333]
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i had a bunchof friends that had the same effects on azures like his muscles were so fucked up he couldnt chew bread and shit couldnt walk he also comapred it too a drunkin shroom trip. i heard that ft stevens is a good place also i just went when it was really dark saying ft stevens isnt really giving away a spot that place is huge


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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yeah, that park is huge, but i see people hunting even when there aint shit to hunt.  seems pretty hot.....i dunno.
i think that azures, having a large dose of both psilocybin AND psilocyn, are relatively potent after drying (psilocybin keeps, psilocyn is ephemeral..)
i think stamets says so in his psilo guide.
i also read somewhere that baeocystin had the unpleasant association with muscular incoordination and headaches....it scared me a long time ago...funny, azures have more baeocystin than baeocystis generally....maybe thats what gets you, joshua.
since azures have such an inordinate amount of psilocyn, as is evidenced by all that damn bluing ( :crazy:), one would think that the experience of the dried shrooms would be vastly different than that of the fresh material.
i only ate one single azure out of the several ounces i got last year.  fresh little fucker the size of my thumb.
i couldnt drive.
 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: viscid]
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Not doubting the nedless wisdom of MJ Shroomer, gartz found a psilocybin content around 1.7 percent plus. If we believe that, this alkaloid is more stable than psilocin, then you would expect azures to maintain some of their potency. Or something.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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if its that much of a problem,dont pick more than you can eat fresh :smile: 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
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i know i didnt eat that many either i just gave me away or said give me a 5 or something ya know


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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Some weilii look very similar to azures.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: ]
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which weilii look similar to azures?
pics?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: viscid]
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i dont know where the pics are but ive seen some that look alot like em but then again they all look generaly the same


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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theres already a few up as far north as long beach :smile:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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a few what are up as far north as long beach?
AZURES?!!!
whoo-hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: viscid]
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you're reading is correct. Ive been leaving sea town every weekend to go surfing and found a few (emphasis on few) in the long beach mcdonalds lot. westport should have some soon too if my transplant efforts from last year were successful. lots of cyans in seattle hahahahahahahahahaha but onnly at 2 places so far.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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if you already found some you suck i wanted to be first :frown: i found some what i belive to be pan subbs im takin prints right now 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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they were in the parking lot like in the grass?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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theyre easy to find there.  no more clues for you. will be in westport for a surf sojurn this weekend and will be checking things out there as well. I tend to devote a lot of time looking for our fun little friends this time of year, dont feel bad that I beat you.  try finding my cyan spots in seattle if you can. Left about a hundred pins to grow this morning so by wednesday they will be phat! Noone has any idea either. I see hippies walk right past them every time I am there. :wink:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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ya i know where they grow i just never heard of them in regular green grass


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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not in just grass- in grass growing over alder chips, which is PRIME! As for growing in grass, ive never seen them on lawn style grass either. I need an astoria weather report, dammit!


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USOR0017?x=24&whatprefs=&y=13

weather report for astoria

ok i see what your saying i thought you meant they were like on the lawn. i was thinkin man this guy is crazy lol


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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muchas gracias


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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some friends just came over with about 10 libertycaps


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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Wassup Josh.
This is Kevin, Mike (Azurepowers) old roomate.

Mike is in jail FYI. He's become a tweaker downtown P-town.
He lost it. Couldnt handle the big city, or tweak.

May god have mercy on his soul.

But hey, at least he showed me some good spots around Astoria, Hammond.

Has the season begun there yet????????????


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Kevin]
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damn that sucks man with a drugs draws someone in like that

on a side not hey we are damn near neighbors im right across the river from ya in vancouver


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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better in jail for a while than dead forever.
just called down to astoria where my homie is living- a few azures found already also at fort stevens. will be there this weekend hahahahahahahaha


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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im gonna try to get down there also we should all try to met up smoke out and try to find some


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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yeh the park is my spot too. I have been thinking about boating it out to that Island b/t wa an or, looked small though. Big park and the cops are on the scene a little bit but there are so many of us up to it and only so many of us really with it that they don't know whose pocket to look in. It is big enough and I do not know how much of the area is covered with them. But I found my spot the first place I got out of my car and have never had the need to find another spot. peace....

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: ruderallis]
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azurescens grow all over the fuckin place when they do man i know of 2 other spots besides that one


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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I am sure that there are lots of spots out there but mine serves me for as long as i want to hike or until the morning light blasts me in the face and I cant see in the friggn grass any more. I need some of them nifty knee pads:)! any how sure you are the man with all the spots. you sure do post on here a lot. Why don't you go picking or something.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: ruderallis]
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dude i always go at night at hi school pharmacy they have lights youstrap on your head so you can pick with both hands


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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got 10 more spots in the area to check. wish I could meet up and puff, bu8t have to take a ua for work. will be in westport at the jetty this sunday though. prime dune grass habitat.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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its all good more for me to smoke lol i really wanna go dammit im tryin to get a ride though i hate having a suspended licnece


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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er....i was at Fort Stevens on Monday not a damn thing but mycenas everywhere and some damn boletes...I have no luck with azures elusive little bastards

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: shroomsquid]
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weather for astoria it is sposed to rain check it out we could use this


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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much needed TriP to astoria. Doob wanna get together Sunday or Saturday night? I was gonna head to P-town and take a jump over to the coast. Hows it looking?

Dimes

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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GSAfarmer and I made a trip to Astoria over the weekend and found some Azures!!! We traveled south from Astoria and looked for liberty caps as well but had no success. Only one of the patches I hunt at was fruiting. Two other patches have been destroyed by urban growth. My favorite patch looked like it had been sprayed w/ either an herbicide or a fungicide :confused:.

Our harvest came in at over 600 grams. We expect about two ounces dry. We have some caps that are printing right now. I don't know if the prints will turn out though.

Let the season begin!!!

This was the first specimen we found.






The total harvest.


A little art :cool:.


Joshua 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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BEAUTIES!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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I was wondering about this weekend????????? FUCK YEHHHHH:) gonna give it a few more weeks though:)

Is that from a "natural" patch or did you help them allong a little bit???? ie alder chips, spawn... or just a patch you know of which you hit up from time to time???

no time at the moment to go but feels cool in Eugene now and getting damp enough seems like by next week we should have a good solid start?
peace

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: ruderallis]
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That was all natural. I cant wait to go get more...........peace


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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Nice find guys!!!

Great pictures too!!!

Looks like your doing good down there.

The weather has mellowed out and it has rained a little up here.

I found more Cyans today at one of my patches. :smile:

good luck with the hunt!

 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Roadkill]
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dude i am so there tomarrow hell yea man thats bad ass i cant wait :laugh:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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Nice find!!

DH

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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Holy cow ! :smile:

Nice catch there partner!

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: angryshroom]
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Right ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so the season really has begun! :grin: :grin: :grin:3 cheers for Joshua
I think i call you JAH for now:) 

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: ruderallis]
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ps: only a few of those look over-ripe; so the season is at the VERY beginning:)
i like it; i like it! HEY did you find a lot of Boletus while you were out there? I have been trying to figure out if their seasons are parallel to eachother. I know there are lots of varieties but they all seem to fruit around the same time there...

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: Joshua]
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: viscid]
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hell yea nirvhead just called he is 55 miles away we is gonna do some pickin :laugh:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! success!!! [Re: ruderallis]
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The Boletus is in also. We found one at the beach and quit a few of them in the forest. As well as some Cantharellus cibarius(yellow chanterelle). But it needs to rain alot more in the forest............peace


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Azures???? [Re: GSAfarmer]
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What are azures no matter where i look i cant find info on how to identify them or where to find them (other than Astoria)...

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Re: Azures???? [Re: lil Gerry]
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got a car ill show you


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Re: Azures???? [Re: Dobie]
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I got a car, bu I'm a two day drive away from there :frown: 

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dobie420_247 [Re: Anonymous]
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Where do you live?

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Re: Azures???? [Re: Anonymous]
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ahhh fuck it i wouldnt go for a couple of weeks


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Re: Azures???? [Re: Dobie]
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I'll be up there in a couple of weeks then.

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Re: Azures???? [Re: Anonymous]
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see ya then :laugh:


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Re: Azures???? [Re: Dobie]
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hey..

just wondering what is the furthest south on the oregon coast anyone has found azures?..much of it has dune grasses and climate similar to Astoria..Ft.Stevens seems to be gettin a bit popular these daze..I'm thinking sort of in particular about that HUGE, VAST, WIDE dune grass covered area down by "Sea lion caves" (which is a trip in itself)..i'll be down there this week, and i was just wondering if anyone's had any luck there..peace..


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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Very nice Joshua
I hope our season up here piccks up,because its been to warm and dry,but Ill
still try.
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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: metalfinn]
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Hey Metalfinn any time you want to come down just pm me an we will go with you.......................peace


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: GSAfarmer]
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has anyone ever had muscle problems before with azures?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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Based on some other posts I have read it seems there can be an unpleasant inability to move muscles and inability to walk for some people. I think it was the post I cannot F*ing walk. Did this happen to you?

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: hawkeye]
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Are azures still growing around Thanksgiving?

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Anonymous]
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yea they should grow then yea and my friend had problems walking on them too fuckin freaked me out man


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Re: Azures???? [Re: Dobie]
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I have a truck and AM going next week, pm me if anyone is interested.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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In response to odd muscular effects....

I have had an experience with muscular stress that was unpleasant on three different occasions with Cubensis.  Mine was different though...I had intense, accurate visual control, and heightened senses.....even felt like I had a Spidey Sense :smile:  Anyway, I noticed that toward the end of the trip, if I did anything strange to over exert my calve muscles (walking long distances while on trip, or basketball, or just resting them and letting them cramp up) they would start to hurt, similar to a mild charliehorse....consequently, the morning after they're unbearably painful, waking walking difficult.....it's like they're permanently tensed up feeling, but the muscles are resting, not tense.  I've looked into this a little bit, and it seems that alkaloids may be behind the strange muscular tensing/lack of control and muscle drunken syndrome.  Just a thought...

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Shadler77]
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never heard of it with cubensis just with azures hmmmm my friend could not walk at all like he was paralized and this was also towards the end of our trip we were damn near sober by then


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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re: muscular effects

My friend ate several fresh Azures last week and had a similar experience with loss of muscular control. FYI, he is an experienced psychonaut. Anyway, as Doobie says, towards the end of the trip, nearly sober, he began having trouble with his jaw and facial muscles. So much so that he had trouble speaking! It was as if he couldn't control his lips, and spoke with a lisp...also, he had extreme difficulty chewing. He was trying to eat a snickers bar about 5 hours after consuming. He described it as if he were trying to chew leather; at times he had to stop completely because he simply could not bite through the thing. Very weird, and more than a little freaky.

The effect lasted nearly an hour. There would seem to be something active within the shroom that has an unwanted effect. He didn't like the effect, but probably won't stop eating the Azures...they're just too nice in many other ways.
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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: jjbigbuds] * 1
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yea was it painful becasue he was hurting my friend also had it happen to him and it was all good he said no pain at all


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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I experienced muscle twitching; like above my eye and in my arms. But I have noticed that it is directly corrolated to the amount that i injest. I like to not over due it so i rarely have a problem. I generally only eat like 1-2 gms (bone dry weight). I know many people like to eat like an eighth. But these are not cubes and there is that elemnt of baeocystin (i butchered that word:) in azurs unlike in any other. Is it not just speculation as to the effects of baeocystin have there been studies? Perhaps there is a corrolation there? hmmm.......

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: ruderallis]
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thats what i was thinking also


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: hawkeye]
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Muscle tension / spasm / trembling / tremors

Psilocybin leaches calcium from the users system. Calcium
is not only important for the building of strong bones and
teeth, but is also ESSENTIAL for muscle functioning. Too
little calcium in a users system is a guarentee for muscle
discomfort.

I have addressed this problem before when somebody posted
experiencing post mushroom trip headache. Set and
setting for a psychedelic experience is important. Equally important is the
proper maintenance of the human body.

If you are experiencing muscle discomfort as described in this
thread, take a look at the following threads:
headache or
extreme headache

Equally important is being properly hydrated ~ drink plenty of good quality
water prior to ingesting the magical fungi. I too used to experience moderate
to severe muscle tension/twitching during heavy experiences. Sometimes I
felt as if I were suffering from a seizure. Once my body was properly hydrated
and had a sufficient calcium supply, the latter symptoms disappeared.

Hope this was some help. Physical pain or discomfort does not go well with
any psychedelic experience.

Peace to Everyone,

Peaceful Nomad


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
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yeh right on; i am sure you are correct nomad; had not remembered those facts. I do not injest but once a year at most any more and we tend to forget ritual without repetition:)

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: ruderallis]
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THANK YOU :smile: :smile:, PEACEFUL NOMAD!!!!!!! now, this is PRECIOUS INFORMATION TO ALL OF US.. is this info in the FAQs? i don't remember seeing it. anyway, if i may suggest, this info should be more easily traceable here at the shroomery, MODS, PLEASE TAKE NOTE. thank you :smile: 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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GOodness look at the size of those mushrooms!!! :laugh:

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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Dobie-

If I could only tell you the paralysis that occurs for me when ingesting azures or cyans. I recently ate 3.1 g cubes, 1.5 g azures, and .5 g cyans.

I collapsed in the middle of a field. I couldn't walk 5 blocks. My co-tripper couldn't smile the next day. I have experience many muscular problems on these two spieces. They effect these muscle parts/groups: eye, facial, esophageal, hand and leg. These effects are due to the species. I have never had similar effects on cubes. Read this: A play by play trip on 7 grams Azures!!!!

While that particular trip was an extreme dose, I have still noticed the effects on much smaller doses as well. That just happens to be the only trip on azures that I have recorded.

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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Astoria Weather update!!!

9 of 10 extended forcast days call for a possibility of rain. Temps are in the right range. We should be seeing some very prolific azurescen flushes w/i the next 2 weeks!!!

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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that sucks man i can see how if that happened to someone less experianced how it could send them inot a bad trip it makes me scared to dose real high on em


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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joshua - what do you think of the calcium supplement idea fron peaceful nomad? anno, any thoughts on this subject? are these symptoms occurring also from azures grown in europe?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: comario2]
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I don't think it has anything to do w/ the leaching of calcium. I would go for some sort of competitive inhibition mechanism, but really have no idea.

I have not seen any literature suggesting the leaching of Ca+ from the body due to the presence of psilocin/psilocybin. I have dosed on extremely high doses of P. cubensis w/o even a hint of the same feelings I get from azurescens or cyanescens.

The condition Nomad speaks of may be different than the paralysis I am speaking of.

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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so, it must be the high(er) baeocystin content of the woodlovers, or what? sounds like this "syndrome" is caused by woodlovers as opposed to dunglovers. any reports on this occurring with pan cyans? other actives? again, what about woodlovers from other geographical areas?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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I think you just trip to damn much Joshua..  :smile:

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Snobrdr311]
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i t happened to my friend on his second trip so it cant be from doing em too much


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: comario2]
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I don't think it is the baeocystin. semilanceata have a high level of baeo in them, I have not felt anything similar on my liberty cap trips.

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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My friend and I who both ate fresh ps. baeostycis felt that before the come on of the actual mushroom trip - we both felt like sleeping and very dozy and muscle tiredness - now that you mention it, just like the feeling i get after eating a fat load of turkey.

(or maybe I'm combining 2 threads in my head here and replying half to both of them) but I did read the thread...maybe it was in the history of the weiliii one they were talking about tryptophan being in turkey and weiliis.. ah well I dont know.

ahah with a grain of salt. peace.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: JovialLeprechaun]
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There is a big difference between what you describe and what we are speaking of. The feelings I get are to be described as paralysis. After the main peak in the trip I find my muscles do not respond as well to my control. Eventually I have colapsed from not being able to control my muscles. This affects different muscle groups. I have experienced the inability to walk, hold objects, focus my eyes, to drink, to smile, or to swallow water proficiently.

Joshua


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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i was freaked out the whole time i was think shit should i call someone or what i ended up helping him walk with his arms on mine and my girls shoulders not fun at all scary shit dude my girl also passed out completly after eating some azures but i think it was unrelated as shes done this before. someone should so some research into this. ive never ate cyans before do they have the same effect as azures


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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hum, so that would seem to rule out baeocystin. what then? does this appear to happen for both azures and psy yans in the same way/intensity? has this been reported only from specimens collected in the PCN? what about this happening from psy cyans say from california? again, i want to know if this occurs also from domesticated specimens grown elsewhere (e.g. austria :wink:). anyway, this is an extremely interesting topic. joshua,could this information be organized in a separate thread? or in whatever way to allow us to collect as many reports and information as  possible. also, is this the sort of "scary thing" on which people should be fully informed? i remember stamets mentioning it. is there more precise information out there? 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: comario2]
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for tha record..i've done loads of liberty's and never experienced anything remotely like this, physicaly...so i don't think it's the baeocystin either...what else do these baby's contain that other psyliz' don't?..we seem to have reports of this happening from two people so far (at least on this thread)..has anyone else experienced this with azures?..


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Edited by lazyvegan (11/06/02 02:32 AM)

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: lazyvegan]
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ok since i brought the idea of baeocystin in to play here, i must confess that upon further research i see that semilanceata has similar levels. Further if it were baeocystin, i believe that the it would be perceived more with semis than less because people would be eating greater weights due to its lesser overall activity levels. So??? It seems that we are talking about mussle twiching to total paralissis? I revere and respects azurs although i have tried eating them at very low doses on a daily basis and have had very good results. But i did also notice an eye twich at the same time period, however i do not necessarily associate it with the mushies. Eye twiching can happen to anyone at any time and it is totally normal. So I think it is really something associated with injesting at higher dosage levels and if the other input to this thread is accurate, then it must be species specific to a degree. BUT, i do not know anything about ca deficiency and have not done any background check on that thread. It sounds plausable if there is research to back it up...
BEEN WATCHING THE WEATHER !!!!! laaadedaaa yummy...................... paciently here i sit and wait and then .......

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: ruderallis]
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yea i really need to get out and hunt if any of you guys wanna team up and go hunting im down i just dont got a car :frown:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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girlfriend just ate 3.5 g's of libs and experienced paralysis of limbs and body, like she couldnt move at all. With baeos I feel more like my lungs/diaphragm are less effective, but limbs are fine.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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thats a ass load of liberty caps man but on the other hand your girl sounds bad ass :laugh:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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she is... fucking gorgeous too.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: cyan-shaman]
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the best kind my girl can handle a max of like 4 cubies and then shes fucked lol


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Muscle Paralysis [Re: Dobie]
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Please post any further comments regarding muscle paralysis and azurescens/cyanescens here.

Thank you.

Joshua


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Re: Muscle Paralysis [Re: Joshua]
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yeah, I trained her well, lol


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Joshua]
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i got mine yesterday, they are hot!!
get yer ass to the spot quick before i get em all. (hehe, can you imagine actually getting em  all ?  too many to get, seriously go get em. :grin: 


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: viscid]
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I plan on doing some Azure hunting this weekend on the Coast. Is it too late to find Azures?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: fidget]
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Viscid and I found a little under 1000 grams :grin: fresh of them today.  I would have to say that they are in....................peace


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: GSAfarmer]
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man when are ya all goin back up i would love to hunt with yall i could provide some herbal accerories :laugh:


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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Not sure but i sure you might get a PM in the future possibly or  PM me. :wink:...............peace


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: Dobie]
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where???????????????????????????????????????????????????????


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: triptones]
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Make sure too take prints :wink:. I need some I could trade for.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: triptones]
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Why did you dig this up?


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: joeshitragpicker]
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Better then making a new one

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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Quote:
Better then making a new one



how?

a post containing "where???????????????????????????????????????????????????????" doesn't do anything to contribte to the forum. if a user want's to know where azures occur they can do like everyone else is expected to and do a search. there are many secriptions of P. azurescens online, including on on the hunting FAQ i beieve.

a post saying "make sure to take prints" is less than relevant to the thread as these mushrooms where picked almost a year ago.



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If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.

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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: theshiftingwalls]
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theshiftingwalls said:
Better then making a new one


wtf are you talking about.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: joeshitragpicker]
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it's nort realy a big deal, it's just not nessecary is all.

i'm not sure theshiftingwalls realized that the thread hadn't been active since last year, since it was triptones that dug it up.


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Re: 2002 Azure Hunting!! [Re: canid]
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its all good it just reminds me season is coming up :laugh: makes me get the chills :laugh: i love this time of the year


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