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Question about the some amanita species...
    #9333242 - 11/29/08 07:16 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have a question concerning the pantherina species. I found some info on warriorsouls journal concerning this and other amanita species.. Is this true, and if so, is it really deadly??


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: flip3084]
    #9333297 - 11/29/08 07:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Most of the amanitas are. I almost drank tea one time made out of the death angel. Know before you consume.


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #9333311 - 11/29/08 07:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

This is the paragraph I am referring to

I think there is great potential for muscimol as a treatment for seasonal depression, anxiety, phobias, ADD, as a sleep aid, weight control and maybe even epilepsy.
It doesn't work for everyone; what drug does. One thing is clear, the history of the chemistry of Amanita muscaria demonstrates the tortuous path and halting progress of science.
The muscaria chemotaxonomic group of Amanitas  (muscaria, pantherina, cothurnata, gemmata, flavoconia, parcivolvata, strobiliformis, flavorubescens, frostiana, regalis, velatipes and more) contain no amatoxins or phallotoxins, and are not hepatoxic.

And here is the link

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9189459/an/0/page/0


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: flip3084]
    #9336423 - 11/30/08 12:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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flip3084 said:
I have a question concerning the pantherina species. I found some info on warriorsouls journal concerning this and other amanita species.. Is this true, and if so, is it really deadly??




Yes, the Amanita genus carries several of the most deadly mushrooms.  It is so deadly that a professor from one of the local universities here wouldn't ever eat any of the edible varieties of Amanitas.  Even though he's competent at identifying which ones are edible and which one are not, there is always a slight chance of error because a few of the definitive macroscopic features are not always present.


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: flip3084]
    #9340458 - 11/30/08 11:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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flip3084 said:
I have a question concerning the pantherina species. I found some info on warriorsouls journal concerning this and other amanita species.. Is this true, and if so, is it really deadly??


pantherina/muscaria are considered dangerous because of cases when people have ate them fresh, they have to be dried/cooked/heated to make them safe to consume.

I eat Amanita jacksonii all the time, its one of my favorite edible mushrooms but i do not recommend anybody who is new to hunting to try it or any amanita.

Muscaria are a good edible too if prepared properly.


If i were you i would stick to psilocybes, pans, and gymnopilus species.

pans and gyms can be found in the states where psilocybes do not grow in abundance but since your from GA like me you have tons of options:grin:


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #9341428 - 12/01/08 02:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yah and watch out for worms in the wild one.. i know first hand :stars:


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    #9342549 - 12/01/08 10:00 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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flip3084 said:
I have a question concerning the pantherina species. I found some info on warriorsouls journal concerning this and other amanita species.. Is this true, and if so, is it really deadly??


pantherina/muscaria are considered dangerous because of cases when people have ate them fresh, they have to be dried/cooked/heated to make them safe to consume.

I eat Amanita jacksonii all the time, its one of my favorite edible mushrooms but i do not recommend anybody who is new to hunting to try it or any amanita.

Muscaria are a good edible too if prepared properly.


If i were you i would stick to psilocybes, pans, and gymnopilus species.

pans and gyms can be found in the states where psilocybes do not grow in abundance but since your from GA like me you have tons of options:grin:




Very much appreciated... Yeah, now the trick is finding them. Did find some Ganoderma lucidum though. Excited about those.


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: flip3084]
    #9345558 - 12/01/08 07:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I guess if your knowledgeable enough and like to bungee jump and swim with sharks,maybe Amanita is your thing.The vast majority of people have no bidness messing with Amanita,for one mistake can be deadly.


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: shroomophile]
    #9345580 - 12/01/08 07:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I was referring to finding cubes and other actives in GA. I have had no successful hunts thus far.


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: AdoreChampignons]
    #9354879 - 12/03/08 12:10 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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It is so deadly that a professor from one of the local universities here wouldn't ever eat any of the edible varieties of Amanitas.  Even though he's competent at identifying which ones are edible and which one are not, there is always a slight chance of error because a few of the definitive macroscopic features are not always present.





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Its true that one or two things can be the same, but there are so many differences between the edible and the deadly Amanitas that anyone who pays attention to all the signs would never be fooled.

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I guess if your knowledgeable enough and like to bungee jump and swim with sharks,maybe Amanita is your thing.The vast majority of people have no bidness messing with Amanita,for one mistake can be deadly.




You could say that about any wild mushroom though.  Its just as easy to mistake Amanita lanei for a death cap as it is to mistake a young shaggy mane for a death cap. 

Either you eat wild mushrooms or you don't, it doesn't make any sense to draw the line at the genus Amanita. 

Any edible wild mushroom is safe if you learn to properly ID it, and none of them are safe if you don't do the job properly.  The edible Amanitas are actually really easy to ID, they all have very noticeable macroscopic features that tell you what it is.  Its not like Inocybe or Psilocybe where you have to put it under a microscope to see which one it is. 

No one should eat any wild mushrooms unless they know exactly what they are.  Doesn't matter if its in Amanita or some other genus. 


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Re: Question about the some amanita species... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #9362613 - 12/04/08 01:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Galerina are nasty lil dudes too.I eat wild mushrooms,however i have a nice microscope.I ID each and everyone that goes into my body.


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