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#932105 - 10/04/02 01:54 PM (22 years, 13 days ago) |
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hey, im new to the film game. im guessing that there are a few of you in here who watch independent films....what are some really good ones that are kinda recent?
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 Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#932378 - 10/04/02 03:19 PM (22 years, 13 days ago) |
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try cecil b demented
by john waters
i dont know if you will like it (its kinda good-bad on purpose)
but its a good place to start
some of my favorites
gummo
and
julian donkey boy
by harmony korine
really twisted psudo-documentries about white trash america
korine cast most of gummo from a talkshow (sallyjr?) about sniffing glue
city of lost children
amelie
by jean-pierre jeunet
beautiful twisted fairytales
what have you seen? what do you like?
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#932454 - 10/04/02 03:45 PM (22 years, 13 days ago) |
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"Little Dieter Needs to Fly" by Werner Hertzog Is a great independent movie. I would put that at the top of my list right now.
Edited by superpimp (10/04/02 03:46 PM)
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Re: independent films [Re: superpimp]
#933801 - 10/05/02 01:58 AM (22 years, 13 days ago) |
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have you seen julian donkey boy?
herzog plays the tussin drinking father it it.
give me everest
i heard that invincible was going to be playing in ny soon.
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Re: independent films [Re: knumb]
#934828 - 10/05/02 03:37 PM (22 years, 12 days ago) |
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Just saw the Canadian premiere of 'Mutant Aliens' by Bill Plympton. Violent, perverse, twisted, sick, pornogrpahic and wonderful. On the slim chance that its playing at a theatre near you, go see it.
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#935673 - 10/05/02 11:17 PM (22 years, 12 days ago) |
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DONNIE DARKO
I can't express this enough. YOU MUST SEE IT.
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Seconded. Frank the Bunny is my hero.
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Thirded.  Donnie Darko was a masterpiece. Highly recommended.
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#939613 - 10/07/02 11:11 AM (22 years, 10 days ago) |
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delicatessin.
eraserhead.
oh, and
WAKING LIFE.
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#941372 - 10/07/02 10:08 PM (22 years, 10 days ago) |
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#942224 - 10/08/02 08:15 AM (22 years, 10 days ago) |
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Waking Life
Grass
Also check out Vanilla Sky, even though its not an independent film, it is definetely appealing to anyone who likes these kind of movies. Try checking out your local art film theater, and see what they have playing.
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#943967 - 10/08/02 07:42 PM (22 years, 9 days ago) |
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"The Bible and Gun Club" by Daniel Harris is a hilarious satire of the American Dream gone haywire. It is a cinema-verite style pseudo-documentary in black and white about a group of traveling salesmen who specialize in the two products mentioned in the title. It will make you laugh. It will make you squirm. It is well made. It is also hard to find apparently. If you are interested pm me.
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 Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#945722 - 10/09/02 12:53 PM (22 years, 8 days ago) |
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Seconded Nominations:
Donnie Darko-although not really independant, it's mirimax
Waking Life
Eraserhead
Further recommendations:
Dead Man, Ghost Dog or Down by Law (Jarmusch)
Siddhartha
El Mariachi
The seven Samurai
Breathless
Are you looking for films that are specifically independant, or just quality films that don't follow the traditional hollywood formula?
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Re: independent films [Re: Remy]
#946537 - 10/09/02 05:44 PM (22 years, 8 days ago) |
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Greenfingers
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Re: independent films [Re: Remy]
#946593 - 10/09/02 06:03 PM (22 years, 8 days ago) |
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yes waking life
and
pi
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the butcher boy
and
welcome to the doll house
storytelling
happiness
and if you like those
ma vie en rose
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#947748 - 10/09/02 10:24 PM (22 years, 8 days ago) |
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Any films by John Cassavetes.
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Are you looking for films that are specifically independant, or just quality films that don't follow the traditional hollywood formula?
I was going to ask this same question. I usually like indy films but that doesn't mean that ALL indy films are good. Just like some major studio pictures don't suck. Recent examples;
Fight Club, Fear and Loathing, Beautiful Mind, Life as a House.
All outstanding films even though they were big budget studio pics.
And also where do foreign films fit? They aren't really indy and some are major studio pics in that country but I have seen them included as indy films. City of Lost Children, Man Bites Dog, Seven Samurai, etc are excellent films but only Man Bites Dog could be considered an independent. The other 2 had huge budgets, backing, stars, etc. Not that I'm nitpicking or anything
2 indies that I haven't been able to see but have heard great things about are Pi (mentioned earlier) and The Delicate Art of the Rifle. And the newer release Storytellers (also mentioned) sounds very good.
Well my additions for awesome indy films would be;
Man Bites Dog
Evil Dead (yes that evil dead)
Blair Witch Project (best horror film in recent history, new horror movies generally suck)
Waking Life (already listed but it is great)
Dark City (might not be classified as a true indy but it was better than Matrix and it was low budget)
thats all for now.
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Re: independent films [Re: knumb]
#951707 - 10/11/02 01:51 AM (22 years, 7 days ago) |
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i'm glad john waters got a mention somewhere.
check out where the indie film movement went haywire.
early john waters movies - best known is 'pink flamingoes'
review goes - "Lewd! Shameless! May God forgive its makers for concocting such a vulgar, offensive mess! And may audiences the world over be forever grateful."
— Philadelphia Daily News, September, 1973
and you can see clips from it at http://www.flf.com/pink/media.htm
plenty of others from mr waters - polyester (with 'odorama'), multiple maniacs (a tribute to the charles manson family), desperate living and female trouble.
theres also alexandro jodorowski from chile, i started a thread with stills, in this forum, asking if anyone was into him but nobody answered, which indicates
people here know fuck all about indies from the 70's  . the dude won the cannes film festival around '75 with el topo.
ever heard of 'in a glass cage' 1985.
when i saw it the cinema was full, within 10 minutes all the women left
5 minutes after that there were only 3 people left in the place - me, alone and 2 dudes down in the front row, i didnt know these guys but without doubt they were tripping, they laughed the entire film. i'm sure they were never the same again. my girlfriend was waiting for me when i walked out, still in tears, she wanted to break up with me for watching the entire film. she told me that all the women that had walked out were screaming at their boyfriends for staying in there a minute longer than they did.
the cinema was a private film club in stockholm, its on vid but i doubt its ever been shown publicly, at least for more than one screening.
one review describes it as an unwatchable masterpiece.
i agree, it really is an excellent film but the images and subject matter come from the darkest, most fucked-up corners of the human psyche.
btw anyone ever been to the cannes film festival?
i stumbled in about 7 years ago, there were stark naked pornstars and wannabees everywhere. you don't get to see any movies tho, unless u have credentials.
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Re: independent films [Re: mr crisper]
#951915 - 10/11/02 04:19 AM (22 years, 7 days ago) |
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try "Ghost World", just watched last night on the dvd and really enjoyed it, good funny indie.
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Re: independent films [Re: mr crisper]
#952093 - 10/11/02 05:31 AM (22 years, 7 days ago) |
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Aww god NOOOOOO Not John waters!!!!!! Anybody but John Waters. Sorry but I just can't get into his stuff. Some of it will be ok and I am starting to enjoy it and then WHAM people are licking furniture and it throws others onto the floor. WHA??!! Then another movie is sailing along and out of nowhere a giant lobster starts fucking a woman! HUH!?!? I have a friend who loves waters so Ive watched most of it but just don't care that much for it. The sex is great and weird but sorry.
On to this glass cage I will write back after I get home from work gotta go. OK heres the edit.
I have never heard of this In a Glass Cage movie. It sounds like something some friends and I would be very interested in seeing. I will have to try and find it. Any other oddities that you know of you can pass off to me. I am always looking for new dementia.
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Re: independent films [Re: postalboy]
#952754 - 10/11/02 09:16 AM (22 years, 7 days ago) |
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I have only seen a few John Waters films --not the early stuff 'cept for Hairspray-- and I think he is a very sane and compassionate filmmaker --especially compared to the corporate B.S. that Hollywood puts out. Actually, I think John Waters is a genius.
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#956618 - 10/13/02 08:57 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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I don't know if any of these could be classified as independent, but here are a few of
my favorite non traditional Hollywood movies.
Naked Lunch
Nowhere
The Anniversary Party
Donny Darko
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#956632 - 10/13/02 09:15 AM (22 years, 5 days ago) |
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Waking Life
Pi
Gummo/ Kids (make by the same people)
What's amelie about?
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Re: independent films [Re: postalboy]
#961695 - 10/14/02 11:53 PM (22 years, 3 days ago) |
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try some from down under -
'bad boy bubby' is a classic, the scene where he fux his mother emptied the theater. i should say one of the scenes, they do it more than once.
also some early stuff from the guy who directed lord of the rings, 'meet the feebles', a muppets ripoff involving porn, drug use and mutilation, he did another flick called 'bad taste' kind've a sci-fi evildead.
very rare from australia is "smoke 'em if you got 'em", some guys hold a party in a bombshelter to celebrate the end of the world via nuclear war, a rather novel form of drug abuse involves, pulling a bong and then sticking one's head in a microwave oven on full power for that extra buzzzzz.
from japan, anything by shinya tsukamoto.
he made his first movie whilst in uni - 'tetsuo - iron man' a guy on a crowded train gets injected by some stranger in the leg, you never see who, he wakes up the next day with bits of metal growing out of his head, it goes off from there. kind've a japanese eraserhead.
the sequel -'tetsuo II - body hammer' is equally awesome.
also from shinya is 'tokyo fist' and 'gemini' creepy, tense and weird.
if you really want to put images into your head that will not do you any good see
troma's 'combat shock', by far the nastiest, most negative, brutal and all-round fucked up 90 minutes on celluloid.
hope these will please.
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#961728 - 10/14/02 11:59 PM (22 years, 3 days ago) |
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http://video.go.com/amelie/
trailer doesnt really do it justice
i think its the voice
look at the pictures instead
anniversary party is great
there are so many little details to catch
only movie my gf walked out of and i stayed was
requiem for a dream
she started to cover her eyes with about 20 mins to go
then decided that she couldnt take the music either
so she left right before
"hey man, whats that on your arm?"
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Re: independent films [Re: mr crisper]
#962604 - 10/15/02 09:46 AM (22 years, 3 days ago) |
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Great movies. I will have to check those australian flicks out. I have seen Tetsuo but never the sequal. And I'm not sure if I have seen that troma flick but I have seen a LOT of troma movies. I imagine if it is the worst of the troma flicks then it has to be disgusting. Thanks for the tips. Ever here of Un Chien Andalou (i believe thats the spelling) It is An andaluvian Dog or something. Supposed to be the gruesomest movie ever. filmed in 1936? it is all short clips of killings and torture. I have never found it. Havent thought to check amazon though. :P Also for creepiness. Freaks. made in early 40's i believe. Must see.
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Re: independent films [Re: postalboy]
#962651 - 10/15/02 10:17 AM (22 years, 3 days ago) |
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yep un chen andalou was made by luis bunuel, i think dali was in on it too(?)
nice shot of an eye being sliced open, pretty good for its era. only a couple of nasty bits, mostly just spaced out.......all that absinthe. freaks is definitely worth seeing.
another shocker is 'even dwarves started small' very early werner herzog movie, hahaha ridiculous movie.
these are from jodorowsky movies -
it's a weird world when you get away from hollywood
Edited by mr crisper (10/16/02 06:29 AM)
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Re: independent films [Re: mr crisper]
#975756 - 10/19/02 10:27 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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One that I have not seen listed yet is "Living In Oblivion"
It stars Steve Buschemi and chronicles the movie making process from a crazed directors standpoint. Anyone seen it?
Oh yeah, so far it seems as if I am the only one here who thinks Donnie Darko was not so great. Good concept but very messy. alot of pointless fill scenes too. But that is just my opinion.
Big budget: Fight Club, Fear and Loathing, American History X, American Beauty, Death to Smootchie was pretty good too.
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Re: independent films [Re: knumb]
#999244 - 10/28/02 05:03 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I second Welcome to the Dollhouse.
I'll think of more later, I'm tired.
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I totally agree, Donnie Darko is probably the most original movie that I have ever seen (story wise).
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Re: independent films [Re: CleverName]
#1002967 - 10/29/02 10:42 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Pi (faith in chaos)" and another film by the same director, "Requiem for a Dream" blew me away.
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