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 wood man
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 Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. 
#9310449 - 11/25/08 12:20 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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hi fellow shroomers! i need your help in indentifying what i think are Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym). found them in the woods, near my city (i live in galicia, spain) they were growing out of a chopped trees trunk and there were tons, maby like 60 or 80, they have a really bitter taste and dont smell bad, kind of fruity, but quite intense. here are the pictures. notice there is a larger one, i found in a smaller group of bigger mushrooms with same smell and taste, maby its not the same species.
this are closer pictures of the bigger shroom:
id also like advice in way of consuming, if actually spectabilis, and also in dosage
i dont really know how to dry them either.
ill get spore prints tonight.
thanx in advance for all the help.
Bless of jah.
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 Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
#9310888 - 11/25/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Wood Man!
They look like BL Gs to me. Your pics are a little blurry so I've added my BLG pics for you to compare. Mine showed blue bruising after maybe 10 or so hours but I'm not sure if they always bruise blue.
Identifiers that you have mentioned are correct for BL Gs. Bitter,intense fruity smell (apricot to me,heavy, sweet smell), growing on wood,they grow from a central point forming a clump, gills are crowded and broad as yours are, and very important have a deep rust color spore print. In my area Deadly Gallerinas are plentiful and a fairly close look alike. Their spore color is white.
The following is my description of the pics submitted for ID. Go to my gallery if they do not post here - they are in the Big Laughing Gyms folder.
Total found in one clump - 7, growing from common point.
Habitat: Broad leaf woods, upper stream bank on dead Maple roots, Mid Atlantic US
Gills: Unattached, broad, crowded, rust color - heavy spore production coloring most of the caps rust.
Stem: Fasciculate, same color as cap, 4" tall, 1 1/2 broad at base(fusiform - tapers from very narrow quickly broadens and narrowing at cap), fibrous running top to bottom with veil remains near top on most, veil zone on others, hollowing when drying to solid, meaty when hydrated,somewhat mottled color on crosscut
Cap: 2" - 4.5" across, smooth, dry, thick, solid with soft (not flexible) feel, dull yellowish tan color (chamois), irregular round/oval, edges curl down, cap flat to slightly indented.
Spore print color: Dark rust
Bruising:undetermined
Other information:
Scent: strong, somewhat sweet, apricot(maybe?).
Taste: Strongly bitter
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/upload.php?action=viewthumb&imgpl=3&imgpp=24&folder=Big+laughing+Gyms[/image]
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Alan Rockefeller
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 Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
#9310915 - 11/25/08 01:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
In my area Deadly Gallerinas are plentiful and a fairly close look alike. Their spore color is white.
The Galerinas in your area are very special, everyone else's deadly Galerinas have a deep rust color spore print. They are usually differentiated by their smaller size, smooth cap and lack of a bitter flavor.
I guess the mushrooms in this thread are probably gyms, can the OP please describe the texture of the cap?
Some pics of the mushrooms growing on the wood would help too.
These pics are a little blurry, please use a digital camera to take pictures of mushrooms and always activate the macro mode (the little flower icon).
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
#9310929 - 11/25/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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They look like Gymnopilus junonius.For drying take thread and needle through them and hang in front of a low fan.If it's particularly humid slice the larger ones into smaller pieces and thread.
7 to 10 grams dry. 70 to a 100 grams wet.
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
#9311007 - 11/25/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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About consumption - The http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator is useful - has a different Gymnopilus on it's drop down but I used that to get an idea for dose. I made a tea with fresh frozen Gyms - 20g, using hot, not boiling water. 1 tsp. powdered ginger for taste (but also good for stomach upsets which I have not had yet), lemon juice, and a big tbsp of frozen lemonade concentrate, and ice. Blended it up and drank it through a straw. Not too bad - I ended up with about a medium sized water glass to drink.
http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports gives you a gage for trip levels. I wanted to reach level 1.5 as a starting point and move up as I got more comfortable with how Gyms work. On the 20g fresh frozen I got to level 1.2 and this past weekend with dried 5g a 1.7 level. I am a very big fan after three 'journeys'.
Oh, to dry them you can find various methods here on shroomery. What ever you do just be sure that they do not get any mold while drying. If they do throw it out.
Happy traveling!
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 Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 1
#9311101 - 11/25/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you for the very important information about Deadly Galerinas. Yes, they are "smaller size, smooth cap and lack of a bitter flavor", and please correct me if I'm wrong on my observations, but their stipe is fibrous but does not twist in the same way the Gyms do - more running straight up and down, and they do not tend to grow in a cluster formation from a common point.
Thanks again. I'm always happy to learn from those with more experience.
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 Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
#9311176 - 11/25/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice specimens.
enjoy 
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
#9311847 - 11/25/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
isosanity said:
About consumption - The http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator is useful - has a different Gymnopilus on it's drop down but I used that to get an idea for dose. I made a tea with fresh frozen Gyms - 20g, using hot, not boiling water. 1 tsp. powdered ginger for taste (but also good for stomach upsets which I have not had yet), lemon juice, and a big tbsp of frozen lemonade concentrate, and ice. Blended it up and drank it through a straw. Not too bad - I ended up with about a medium sized water glass to drink.
http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports gives you a gage for trip levels. I wanted to reach level 1.5 as a starting point and move up as I got more comfortable with how Gyms work. On the 20g fresh frozen I got to level 1.2 and this past weekend with dried 5g a 1.7 level.
Happy traveling!
How do you measure levels to the decimal point?
Level 1.2, 1.5, 1.7 ???
Have a meter?
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wood man
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: El Zorro]
#9315171 - 11/26/08 02:54 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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ill take new photos after i get back from class, i saw the spore print and its rusty orange as you said, the deadly galernas thing scared me, but these taste extremely bitter so i guess i got the right ones.
they were growing as they are sopposed to be growing, in a rotting tree trunk, comming out of the same point and in massive proportions.
im now drying them in my room (smells all shroomy, hope my parents think its just me and my socks ) but here is the way im doing it: got a small radiator in my room, it irradiates not high heat, it has holes and apertures in top, i put the stems in the apertures or holes and the caps are in contact with the heat, they are drying smooth and slow.
got 3 boxes fool of them under the radiator (too many for the top) i hope they dont rot.
i cant do the fan thing cause i dont have a fan and i dont have a good excuse if my father asks me what the hell im doing with 30 crazy shrooms hanging on my room.
ill find solution.
thanx for thi help!!
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: El Zorro]
#9316008 - 11/26/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
El Zorro said:
Quote:
isosanity said:
About consumption - The http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator is useful - has a different Gymnopilus on it's drop down but I used that to get an idea for dose. I made a tea with fresh frozen Gyms - 20g, using hot, not boiling water. 1 tsp. powdered ginger for taste (but also good for stomach upsets which I have not had yet), lemon juice, and a big tbsp of frozen lemonade concentrate, and ice. Blended it up and drank it through a straw. Not too bad - I ended up with about a medium sized water glass to drink.
http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports gives you a gage for trip levels. I wanted to reach level 1.5 as a starting point and move up as I got more comfortable with how Gyms work. On the 20g fresh frozen I got to level 1.2 and this past weekend with dried 5g a 1.7 level.
Happy traveling!
How do you measure levels to the decimal point?
Level 1.2, 1.5, 1.7 ???
Have a meter?
i have a meter 
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9316369 - 11/26/08 11:46 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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watch what you say about your parents man... people may get wrong ideas and think you're under 18 (= instant ban).
they look a lot like Gyms to me, the larger one is also a good indicator they are not Galerina - Galerina rarely get that big.
bear in mind these may not have Psilocybin in them, although they might do. it can be a bit hit and miss.
anyway, post more hi-def pictures if you want to uber uber uber certain. nice finds, 
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weiliiiiiii
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: haymaker]
#9316451 - 11/26/08 12:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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haymaker do you really make hay:D
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9316641 - 11/26/08 12:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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My parents won't let me go out today because its raining and they say pedophiles hunt for children in the rain :-(
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Tempus950]
#9316724 - 11/26/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tempus950 said:
My parents won't let me go out today because its raining and they say pedophiles hunt for children in the rain :-(
how old are you tempus?
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wood man
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Beege]
#9316949 - 11/26/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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here are more pics:
      
and here is where I'm drying them:
 
can the mild heat of a radiator burn the psilocybin?? i cant keep my hand very long on it, but it not burning....
any other way of drying the mushrooms in a closed space like a drawer or non visible place???
oh and for the record, I'm 18 and i still don't want my parents to know i have hallucinogenic mushrooms in my room, it wouldn't be the end of the world.... but better keep things simple. right?
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: El Zorro]
#9318175 - 11/26/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, Zoro, I guess you don't have kids.
"When are we gonna get there?", "are we there yet?", "how much longer?", "how much further?", "are we almost there.......???????".
When I travel I usually know how far along I am on my way. There are few times that I arrive exactly on the hour, not having traveled an even number of miles, for an even number of minutes. I guess I would have to call my "meter" 'subjective experience'. AKA an odometer.
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
#9318342 - 11/26/08 05:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
isosanity said:
So, Zoro, I guess you don't have kids.
"When are we gonna get there?", "are we there yet?", "how much longer?", "how much further?", "are we almost there.......???????".
When I travel I usually know how far along I am on my way. There are few times that I arrive exactly on the hour, not having traveled an even number of miles, for an even number of minutes. I guess I would have to call my "meter" 'subjective experience'. AKA an odometer.
um... what?
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
#9318719 - 11/26/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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In order to dry mushrooms you need heat and some air exchange (unless you are freeze-drying). The more heat, the less fresh air you need; the more fresh air (like a fan), the less heat you need. Too much heat will degrade the psilocybin and psilocin. Take it from there.
According to Stamets, Gymnopilus spectabilis vary quite a bit as far as active chemicals are concerned. No one can tell you how potent they would be. Also, anise or licorice smelling BLG's are very rare. I have never found one and I specialize in Gymnopilus.
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9319370 - 11/26/08 08:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I gave descriptions of recent journeys that were less than whole numbers - Zoro wanted to know if I had a meter to determine varying degrees of trip levels as compared to those described on the Shroomery.org link (levels 1 through 5 - see below) - that was my response.
Aren't you glad you asked ?
http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
#9319452 - 11/26/08 09:14 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a little trick to learn, iso. If you are using the quick reply, you can use the dropdown to reply to a specific person. I didn't reply to you because this isn't your thread. It's wood man's.
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