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Offlinehappygrins
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P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain??
    #931839 - 10/04/02 02:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)


Ok.. If this is the wrong forum then moderators, please move..

Anyhow a friend was wondering what these STRONG/INTENSE shocks you get in you head with P. Cubensis strains.  Hes experienced it in many..  Eq's, Pesa, PR, and now Cambodian..    He says hes just tripping along and then there are these waves that kind of wake him up..  Many of his friends have experienced the same thing..    Has anyone else experienced this?..  Is this only significant  to the P.Cubensis?.. 

Thanks

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    #931875 - 10/04/02 02:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: vatoloco]
    #931891 - 10/04/02 02:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Every once in awhile if you try too ..........you can smell brain cells frying  ! :blush: :grin: 


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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: happygrins]
    #931893 - 10/04/02 02:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I agree w/ Vatoloco, you might want an ice pack for that :cool:

My theory is that the psilocybin is metabolised in waves as MAO is released from whatever gland releases it. That is a far fetched idea however, I have nothing other than your melting brain to back it up.

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: Joshua]
    #931964 - 10/04/02 03:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hahha..  ok..  going for the Ice-pk...    So no one else has ever experienced this?..  Seriously??

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: happygrins]
    #931988 - 10/04/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i just always figured i was trippin!


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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: vatoloco]
    #931989 - 10/04/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i have felt waves on other drugs. my personal opinion is that it is something cosmic/spiritual/metaphysical as groups of us have felt them simultaneously. not that it couldn't be "group insanity", but i notice the same thing on different substances, LSD and shrooms specifically. and i'm not very "superstitious", so it takes a leap for me to come to such conclusions.


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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: vatoloco]
    #931990 - 10/04/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ok..  So is there any way to correct this?..  Would it be better to eat in tablets/pills other than whole mushrooms so your stomach digests it more evenly?..  Hmm

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: happygrins]
    #931997 - 10/04/02 03:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What do you mean by STRONG/INTENSE shocks?

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: LilMerlin]
    #932024 - 10/04/02 03:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Lets see.. (((this has been experienced on Low(1 - 2 grams) and High doses(4 - 7 grams))))  but they just seem to really Wake you up while your tripping..  Like and  Open Eye Wake up call sort of.  Even coming down from them this has occured l ike if you lay down on your bed and close your eyes and try to relax once inawhile youll get these intense waves in your brain..  Hmm..  you would defently know them if you got them.. 

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: LilMerlin]
    #932040 - 10/04/02 03:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I've felt them before.
Waves of cosmic energy. Incremental metabolism of active chemicals. Disturbances in the force. Sensitivity to higher dimensional wavelengths. Messages from the teacher. Brain cells frying. Brain melting. Virbrations in the Collective Unconcious.

Call them what you will. They are a common occurance and only you can give them meaning from the context of your experience and ideology.


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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: mycofile]
    #932056 - 10/04/02 03:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ahh..  ((whip face))) so im not the only one :crazy:

Does this happen with all active mushrooms?.. 
Would putting them in pills/tables alter this in any way?

thanks
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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: mycofile]
    #932381 - 10/04/02 05:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Mycofile...I like your interpretation.

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: happygrins]
    #932584 - 10/04/02 06:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Look, I've felt the waves only once, and I felt them well. So, I think I know what you are talking about. That time, I was on 3 gr. with 3gr Paganum Harmala (MAOi)ingested an hour before. I felt them strongly as I was alone in nature looking at the beautiful landscape soon invaded by the visions.

The thing is, I used much more Pan. Cyan and it really never did it to me. I can imagine that it can happen at the onset (up to 2 hours after ingestion), but really can't think of anything like that at any other moment of the trip.

Also, I recently ate my own shrooms (GCs) and it was powerful but I didn't feel the waves I felt the above-mentionned time with Paganum Harmala. This makes me think that the time I felt it, was the only time I ate my shrooms plain. All the other times, I grinded them and let them in either hot water or cold water with lemon juice. Do you ingest your shrooms always the same way? Did you already try the Panaeolus kind?

Joshua's digestion theory looks like an interesting one. I have a slight variation: the waves in the beginning are the result of progressive assimilation of the mushrooms flesh into the blood-stream. The stomac probably works rythmically and the ingestion phases are more prominent with shrooms because mycelium is a difficult substance to decompose (that's an assumption on my behalf!). This would explain why my usual method of ingestion doesn't produce those waves at the onset.

However, my experience does invalidate Joshua's (and Vatoloco's, if it's the same!?) theory as I ingested MAOis and waited until I felt their effect before eating shrooms. That means that MAOs could not work at the precise moment I felt the waves most strongly.

Secondly, if indeed the psilocybin is broken down into an inactive substance by MAOs, the waves you feel are not the effect of something strong pushing higher but waves of inhibition of what could otherwise be a non-stop up and up and up without disontinuity :smile:.

While I read your post it thought about the same as  mycofile :
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Call them what you will. They are a common occurance and only you can give them meaning from the context of your experience and ideology.




... except that I don't think it's a matter of giving them meaning, because that's already what you're doing. Listening seems to me a better solution.

You should go back and listen more carefully, be attentive to what it really produces in your mind, what you feel, what you think when it happens. And what the heck if you don't know what it is. It's better not to know and be aware of that fact than think it is something it is not and change your mind every month.

In a way, when you don't know anymore, you start knowing.

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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: happygrins]
    #932587 - 10/04/02 06:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i'm pretty sure it has to do with metabolism, but you might want to consult a pharmaceutical pathologist on that one.  i've always taken it as a message from the big electron.  everytime i think, "everything's cool.  i'm in control of this," he smacks me on the back of the head and says, "no my son, you are still tripping balls."

i don't know that caplets would really change the effects that much.  i do know, however, that tea will get a hold of you hard and fast and make you its bitch. :grin: 


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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: happygrins]
    #932727 - 10/04/02 08:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

My bro ate them once, and he blacked out and had a minor seizer. he hasnt done them since


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Re: P. Cubensis ZZZing Strain?? [Re: Joshua]
    #932738 - 10/04/02 08:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No No No...Vatoloco had it right to start with, its your brain melting for sure!  :wink:


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