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OfflineSlapux
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Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms?
    #9316059 - 11/26/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yoga is definitely all about expanding and reaching higher states of consciousness. But its interesting how was it developed? could it come from the ritual use of soma talked of in the veda? and could that explain the blue color of many of the hindu gods? (cubensis anyone?)
after all the shrooms have been here for a while, and it just might explain why the cow is so holy there...

what u guys think?


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? (moved) [Re: Slapux]
    #9316063 - 11/26/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from Philosophy & Spirituality.

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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: Slapux]
    #9316069 - 11/26/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Ive thought about that before. I agree thats how yoga cameabout, from soma. Ive also thought about the cow thing before, it makes alot of sense.

I frst discovered yoga when I was on psychedellics and loved it. Sometimes its the only and best way to become comfortable.


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #9316104 - 11/26/08 10:49 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

yea, well the reason i raise this issue is that, well yoga to me is awesome at anytime, but usually on psychedelics it feels so natural and so...right, its like "of course! it makes so much sense!", so it feels like an integrated part of shamanism to me...


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: Slapux]
    #9316303 - 11/26/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Slapux said:
and could that explain the blue color of many of the hindu gods?




The blue colour of many of the Vedic avatars/devas is symbolic. It is due to their impenetrable nature. Supposedly, whatever has a depth which cannot be penetrated appears to have a dark blue hue.

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Slapux said:
and it just might explain why the cow is so holy there...




The cow is considered to be a mother to us in the Vedic/Hindu culture because we drink her milk and are nourished by it. But the cow provides the average Hindu living in India with so much more than just milk. It is noteworthy to state that the VAST majority of the typical Hindu diet consists of dairy products such as milk, clarified butter (ghee), cheese, yoghurt etc. and all of this comes almost entirely from cows (but sometimes from goats, yaks and other such creatures too). The typical Hindu diet, as far as I'm aware (and I'm obviously not speaking for all people out there who consider themselves to be 'Hindus', because there's over a billion of them out there), consists of dairy products much more than in what is the typical 'Western' diet. Even their desserts contain milk or certain yoghurts in them (sometimes boiled or frothy). So, in a certain sense, the source of almost all the ingredients of what the typical Hindu diet is happens to be the cow. The cow almost single-handedly (or single-hoofedly or whatever) is the source of everything that a typical Hindu eats (whether living in India or somewhere else in our world). But furthermore, the cow (as well as the bull) can and often is used as a mode of transport. A person can sit on its back and be taken to certain places by it. The cows in farms in India (and all over the world, of course) plow the fields for grains that are universally used in food items all over the world. Also, cow dung is sometimes used as a cheap and efficient type of fuel in India. Not only this, but cow dung does not have a damaging and toxic effect on our atmosphere like most of our fuels today do. So the cow provides the average Hindu with SO much that it's difficult for them to NOT feel immensely grateful towards the cow for what it bestows upon them. It bestows all of these things upon us without asking for ANYTHING in return (except not being sliced into little tiny pieces and then eaten, I guess... which is fair enough!). I remember reading an article or something in a Hindu bookstore once a few years ago about a cow (or a calf, I can't exactly remember but that's essentially an irrelevant detail) that was supposedly placed in an abertoire where it was about to be slaughtered. Shortly before it was killed (and this is ABSOLUTELY TRUE), it knelt down on its two front legs and started to shed tears from its eyes. This article I read had a very profound effect on me. Cows (as well as any other living entity) has the same capacity to love unconditionally just as we do. There is not even an iota of doubt in my mind about this. Apparently, cows have even been documented to shed tears when their calves are removed from them and/or killed. I do not find this difficult to believe at all. I believe it to be true wholeheartedly. The cow is a deeply sattvic animal.


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: Rishi]
    #9316541 - 11/26/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think you're on to something, can't be coincidence that cow's are holy and that magic mushrooms are growing on their feces... that's probably where the term "Holy shit" came from!

@Rishi: milk? why aren't goats holy? I think the true meaning of why cows are holy has been lost in time, and cows being holy because of the magic mushrooms growing on their feces makes a lot more sense to me...


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: Slapux]
    #9316577 - 11/26/08 12:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Slapux said:
Yoga is definitely all about expanding and reaching higher states of consciousness. But its interesting how was it developed? could it come from the ritual use of soma talked of in the veda? and could that explain the blue color of many of the hindu gods? (cubensis anyone?)
after all the shrooms have been here for a while, and it just might explain why the cow is so holy there...

what u guys think?




Absolutely.:thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #9316666 - 11/26/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:

I frst discovered yoga when I was on psychedellics and loved it.




How was it that you discovered yoga while on psychedelics? What exactly happened while you were tripping that resulted in you discovering yoga?


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: lines]
    #9316711 - 11/26/08 12:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I was on a high dose of LSD, about 10 hits and had been up for a couple days. I started off in a half lotus position, and moved to the dragon and several others I cant recall the names of. All of these positions I got in I did for the comfort of it. I held my hands together as if to pray, stretched forward on the floor as if to pray to Allah. Bent backwards and put my hands on the ground, did a sorta headstand thing. Twisted my torso around while keeping my legs crossed in the same place, and so fourth. I did many different stretches while meditating

Later I read up on yoga and noticed that the positions I had gotten in were the same ones as the asanas in the book.

Before my experience I thought yoga was "not for me".

I had another experience where I dropped cid and wandered around. A guy in a turban and white robe found me while I was wandering in my fugue invited me to a free kundalini yoga class and taught me some more.

There are many ways to discover something for yourself while tripping.


Edited by MisterMuscaria (11/26/08 12:57 PM)


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #9316883 - 11/26/08 01:24 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for elaborating, if you did not elaborate I might have assumed you found some random book on yoga while tripping and discovered it that way. I started randomly doing improvised hand postures while tripping and I later found out that what I was doing was called mudras which is meditational hand postures. I'm into yoga now but I don't like mudras... I am into mantra yoga. Have you(or anyone who may be reading this) ever heard of the Gayatri Mantra?

I don't do acid or shrooms anymore, I just can't handle them and I had some bad trips. However I find that the practice of brahmacharya is something which is more than adequate for providing fuel for the yogic experience.


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: Rishi]
    #9317115 - 11/26/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Rishi said:The cow is a deeply sattvic animal.




The few cows I have met were intensely curious and laid-back animals. I think there is much to be learned from the majestic cow.



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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: koppie]
    #9318579 - 11/26/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Gayatri Mantra:

Om bur buvah svaha
tata savitur vareniyam
pargo devsya dimahi
dyoyonam parcho dayat

Brama carri, im just in the begging of it, in its seems psychtoic to me
im sure mastering it can get u too much high...heheh :wink:


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Re: Yoga, A science channeled by shrooms? [Re: Slapux]
    #9319406 - 11/26/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know about your theory.  It makes logical sense, except that Yoga was already a developed system before it found it's entry into the Veda's, and the whole cow thing is almost post-Vedic I think.  It's Vedantic at least.  But I say that Yoga was developed outside of the Veda's because of the proto-Shiva seal found with unknown text that isn't related to the indo-european tree and Hindi scripts.  It pictures him as Pasupati, Lord of Beasts, seated in padmasana.  It's also evidence that Shiva was actually non-Vedic, which explains the stories about him having to force his way into the pantheon.

Altogether, it's all speculation.  The Veda's were transmitted orally for who knows how long before any of it was written down.  We'll probably never know.  Soma being Amanita Muscaria is still a theory, too.  So we are building theories upon theories.


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