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Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification.
    #9310449 - 11/25/08 02:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hi fellow shroomers! i need your help in indentifying what i think are Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym). found them in the woods, near my city (i live in galicia, spain) they were growing out of a chopped trees trunk and there were tons, maby like 60 or 80, they have a really bitter taste and dont smell bad, kind of fruity, but quite intense. here are the pictures. notice there is a larger one, i found in a smaller group of bigger mushrooms with same smell and taste, maby its not the same species.








this are closer pictures of the bigger shroom:





id also like advice in way of consuming, if actually spectabilis, and also in dosage
i dont really know how to dry them either.
ill get spore prints tonight.

thanx in advance for all the help.
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
    #9310888 - 11/25/08 03:38 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Wood Man!

They look like BL Gs to me. Your pics are a little blurry so I've added my BLG pics for you to compare. Mine showed blue bruising after maybe 10 or so hours but I'm not sure if they always bruise blue.

Identifiers that you have mentioned are correct for BL Gs. Bitter,intense fruity smell (apricot to me,heavy, sweet smell), growing on wood,they grow from a central point forming a clump, gills are crowded and broad as yours are, and very important have a deep rust color spore print. In my area Deadly Gallerinas are plentiful and a fairly close look alike.  Their spore color is white.

The following is my description of the pics submitted for ID.  Go to my gallery if they do not post here - they are in the Big Laughing Gyms folder.

Total found in one clump - 7, growing from common point.

Habitat: Broad leaf woods, upper stream bank on dead Maple roots,  Mid Atlantic US

Gills: Unattached, broad, crowded, rust color - heavy spore production coloring most of the caps rust.

Stem: Fasciculate, same color as cap, 4" tall, 1 1/2 broad at base(fusiform - tapers from very narrow quickly broadens and narrowing at cap), fibrous running top to bottom with veil remains near top on most, veil zone on others, hollowing when drying to solid, meaty when hydrated,somewhat mottled color on crosscut

Cap: 2" - 4.5" across, smooth, dry, thick, solid with soft (not flexible) feel, dull yellowish tan color (chamois), irregular round/oval, edges curl down, cap flat to slightly indented.

Spore print color: Dark rust

Bruising:undetermined

Other information:
Scent: strong, somewhat sweet, apricot(maybe?).
Taste: Strongly bitter


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/upload.php?action=viewthumb&imgpl=3&imgpp=24&folder=Big+laughing+Gyms[/image]


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
    #9310915 - 11/25/08 03:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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In my area Deadly Gallerinas are plentiful and a fairly close look alike.  Their spore color is white.




The Galerinas in your area are very special, everyone else's deadly Galerinas have a deep rust color spore print.  They are usually differentiated by their smaller size, smooth cap and lack of a bitter flavor.



I guess the mushrooms in this thread are probably gyms, can the OP please describe the texture of the cap?

Some pics of the mushrooms growing on the wood would help too.

These pics are a little blurry, please use a digital camera to take pictures of mushrooms and always activate the macro mode (the little flower icon). 


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
    #9310929 - 11/25/08 03:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

They look like Gymnopilus junonius.For drying take thread and  needle through them and hang in front of a low fan.If it's particularly humid slice the larger ones into smaller pieces and thread.

7 to 10 grams dry. 70 to a 100 grams wet.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
    #9311007 - 11/25/08 04:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

About consumption - The http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator is useful - has a different Gymnopilus on it's drop down but I used that to get an idea for dose.  I made a tea with fresh frozen Gyms - 20g, using hot, not boiling water. 1 tsp. powdered ginger for taste (but also good for stomach upsets which I have not had yet), lemon juice, and a big tbsp of frozen lemonade concentrate, and ice.  Blended it up and drank it through a straw. Not too bad - I ended up with about a medium sized water glass to drink.

http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports gives you a gage for trip levels. I wanted to reach level 1.5 as a starting point and move up as I got more comfortable with how Gyms work. On the 20g fresh frozen I got to level 1.2 and this past weekend with dried 5g a 1.7 level. I am a very big fan after three 'journeys'.

Oh, to dry them you can find various methods here on shroomery.  What ever you do just be sure that they do not get any mold while drying.  If they do throw it out.

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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #9311101 - 11/25/08 04:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for the very important information about Deadly Galerinas.  Yes, they are "smaller size, smooth cap and lack of a bitter flavor", and please correct me if I'm wrong on my observations, but their stipe is fibrous but does not twist in the same way the Gyms do - more running straight up and down, and they do not tend to grow in a cluster formation from a common point.
Thanks again. I'm always happy to learn from those with more experience.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
    #9311176 - 11/25/08 04:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Nice specimens.

enjoy :mushroom2:


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
    #9311847 - 11/25/08 06:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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isosanity said:
About consumption - The http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator is useful - has a different Gymnopilus on it's drop down but I used that to get an idea for dose.  I made a tea with fresh frozen Gyms - 20g, using hot, not boiling water. 1 tsp. powdered ginger for taste (but also good for stomach upsets which I have not had yet), lemon juice, and a big tbsp of frozen lemonade concentrate, and ice.  Blended it up and drank it through a straw. Not too bad - I ended up with about a medium sized water glass to drink.

http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports gives you a gage for trip levels. I wanted to reach level 1.5 as a starting point and move up as I got more comfortable with how Gyms work. On the 20g fresh frozen I got to level 1.2 and this past weekend with dried 5g a 1.7 level.


Happy traveling!




How do you measure levels to the decimal point?
Level 1.2, 1.5, 1.7  ???

Have a meter?


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: El Zorro]
    #9315171 - 11/26/08 04:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ill take new photos after i get back from class, i saw the spore print and its rusty orange as you said, the deadly galernas thing scared me, but these taste extremely bitter so i guess i got the right ones.

they were growing as they are sopposed to be growing, in a rotting tree trunk, comming out of the same point and in massive proportions.

im now drying them in my room (smells all shroomy, hope my parents think its just me and my socks:grin:) but here is the way im doing it: got a small radiator in my room, it irradiates not high heat, it has holes and apertures in top, i put the stems in the apertures or holes and the caps are in contact with the heat, they are drying smooth and slow.
got 3 boxes fool of them under the radiator (too many for the top) i hope they dont rot.

i cant do the fan thing cause i dont have a fan and i dont have a good excuse if my father asks me what the hell im doing with 30 crazy shrooms hanging on my room.
ill find solution.
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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: El Zorro]
    #9316008 - 11/26/08 12:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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About consumption - The http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator is useful - has a different Gymnopilus on it's drop down but I used that to get an idea for dose.  I made a tea with fresh frozen Gyms - 20g, using hot, not boiling water. 1 tsp. powdered ginger for taste (but also good for stomach upsets which I have not had yet), lemon juice, and a big tbsp of frozen lemonade concentrate, and ice.  Blended it up and drank it through a straw. Not too bad - I ended up with about a medium sized water glass to drink.

http://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports gives you a gage for trip levels. I wanted to reach level 1.5 as a starting point and move up as I got more comfortable with how Gyms work. On the 20g fresh frozen I got to level 1.2 and this past weekend with dried 5g a 1.7 level.


Happy traveling!




How do you measure levels to the decimal point?
Level 1.2, 1.5, 1.7  ???

Have a meter?


i have a meter :rofl2:


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #9316369 - 11/26/08 01:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

watch what you say about your parents man... people may get wrong ideas and think you're under 18 (= instant ban).

they look a lot like Gyms to me, the larger one is also a good indicator they are not Galerina - Galerina rarely get that big.

bear in mind these may not have Psilocybin in them, although they might do. it can be a bit hit and miss.

anyway, post more hi-def pictures if you want to uber uber uber certain. nice finds, :peace:


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: haymaker]
    #9316451 - 11/26/08 02:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

haymaker do you really make hay:D


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #9316641 - 11/26/08 02:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My parents won't let me go out today because its raining and they say pedophiles hunt for children in the rain :-(


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Tempus950]
    #9316724 - 11/26/08 02:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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My parents won't let me go out today because its raining and they say pedophiles hunt for children in the rain :-(




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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Beege]
    #9316949 - 11/26/08 03:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

here are more pics:


and here is where I'm drying them:


can the mild heat of a radiator burn the psilocybin?? i cant keep my hand very long on it, but it not burning....

any other way of drying the mushrooms in a closed space like a drawer or non visible place???

oh and for the record, I'm 18 and i still don't want my parents to know i have hallucinogenic mushrooms in my room, it wouldn't be the end of the world.... but better keep things simple. right?


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: El Zorro]
    #9318175 - 11/26/08 07:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So, Zoro, I guess you don't have kids. 

"When are we gonna get there?", "are we there yet?", "how much longer?", "how much further?", "are we almost there.......???????". 

When I travel I usually know how far along I am on my way. There are few times that I arrive exactly on the hour, not having traveled an even number of miles, for an even number of minutes.  I guess I would have to call my "meter" 'subjective experience'.  AKA an odometer.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
    #9318342 - 11/26/08 07:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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So, Zoro, I guess you don't have kids. 

"When are we gonna get there?", "are we there yet?", "how much longer?", "how much further?", "are we almost there.......???????". 

When I travel I usually know how far along I am on my way. There are few times that I arrive exactly on the hour, not having traveled an even number of miles, for an even number of minutes.  I guess I would have to call my "meter" 'subjective experience'.  AKA an odometer.




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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
    #9318719 - 11/26/08 09:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

In order to dry mushrooms you need heat and some air exchange (unless you are freeze-drying).  The more heat, the less fresh air you need; the more fresh air (like a fan), the less heat you need.  Too much heat will degrade the psilocybin and psilocin.  Take it from there.

According to Stamets, Gymnopilus spectabilis vary quite a bit as far as active chemicals are concerned.  No one can tell you how potent they would be.  Also, anise or licorice smelling BLG's are very rare.  I have never found one and I specialize in Gymnopilus.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9319370 - 11/26/08 10:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I gave descriptions of recent journeys that were less than whole numbers - Zoro wanted to know if I had a meter to determine varying degrees of trip levels as compared to those described on the Shroomery.org link (levels 1 through 5 - see below) - that was my response. 
Aren't you glad you asked ?

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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: isosanity]
    #9319452 - 11/26/08 11:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Here's a little trick to learn, iso.  If you are using the quick reply, you can use the dropdown to reply to a specific person.  I didn't reply to you because this isn't your thread.  It's wood man's.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9319642 - 11/26/08 11:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Also, anise or licorice smelling BLG's are very rare.  I have never found one and I specialize in Gymnopilus.




WHAT!?!?

One out of every 10 or so of my luteos smell like anise slightly. Nothing as strong as the oysters around here though.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #9319734 - 11/27/08 12:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

BLG stands for Big Laughing Gym aka Gymnopilus spectabilis.  Gymnopilus luteus nearly always smells like anise or licorice.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9319738 - 11/27/08 12:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for the tip - I'm still learning - I appreciate it.


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    #9319748 - 11/27/08 12:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm still learning too, and you're welcome.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9321291 - 11/27/08 11:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, didn't notice it said BLG, thought it said Gym.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9321492 - 11/27/08 12:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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In order to dry mushrooms you need heat and some air exchange (unless you are freeze-drying).  The more heat, the less fresh air you need; the more fresh air (like a fan), the less heat you need.  Too much heat will degrade the psilocybin and psilocin.  Take it from there.

According to Stamets, Gymnopilus spectabilis vary quite a bit as far as active chemicals are concerned.  No one can tell you how potent they would be.  Also, anise or licorice smelling BLG's are very rare.  I have never found one and I specialize in Gymnopilus.




Dang, never found a sweet n' smelly Gym? The local ones I find are active and smell up a storm, and seem to otherwise match the classic G. junonius. Must be an East Coast US thing. Maybe there's a way I can send you a few "for scientific purposes" next season...:grin:

Good finds OP! I agree with Senor that the potency issue is a big question mark with the Gyms and I have no idea how my finds match up with the G. purpuratus on the Calculator. My sensitivity to substances makes it even more difficult to give advice on dosages, but I get a solid level 3 experience with 10-12 dry gram equivalents of fresh Gyms when I lack tolerance; 10-12 grams dried Gyms seems to give me a solid level 2. 20 grams dried/20 grams dried equiv. of fresh will likely give a level 3 and level 4 experience, respectively (I've yet to try).

I'm not certain how one "goes metric" with the experience scale, but I think of "high/low" level experiences. For example, a high level 2 bordered on a level 3, but didn't quite make it based on the quality of the visuals.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: N2loma]
    #9321527 - 11/27/08 12:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

damn 20 grams for a level 4? I can do it with 2 or 3 (according to the calculator) =p


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    #9321546 - 11/27/08 12:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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damn 20 grams for a level 4? I can do it with 2 =p




yeah, I know you Psilo and Cope folks can, but I'm happy with my Gyms!  :fork:

The saving grace with Gyms is that they come in large clusters. If that weren't the case, my hopes would be for the arrival of the Ovoid or Unseasonable Cube Fairies.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: N2loma]
    #9321606 - 11/27/08 12:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

heh

still, it would be very cool to find some gyms (I never have before).

They grow on dead hardwoods right?


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    #9321664 - 11/27/08 01:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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They grow on dead hardwoods right?




Yep.They grow on conifer as well.Some species of Gymnopilus even grow in soil.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9321670 - 11/27/08 01:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well we've got some oaks around so next time it rains...  :shroompick:


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Beege]
    #9321897 - 11/27/08 02:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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heh

still, it would be very cool to find some gyms (I never have before).

They grow on dead hardwoods right?




there not as common ova here in FL, but i have found some growing from wood chips before, they were very small but i threw em in on a cube and cope tea.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: N2loma]
    #9321902 - 11/27/08 02:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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damn 20 grams for a level 4? I can do it with 2 =p




yeah, I know you Psilo and Cope folks can, but I'm happy with my Gyms!  :fork:

The saving grace with Gyms is that they come in large clusters. If that weren't the case, my hopes would be for the arrival of the Ovoid or Unseasonable Cube Fairies.




wait gyms bruise slightly somtimes, dosent that make them psilocybin?


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: smokdatkush]
    #9321903 - 11/27/08 02:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I think I remember hearing about that.

I think it's amazing that there is such a wide variety of these entheogenic mushrooms and you can basically find them anywhere there are human-beings.


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    #9322620 - 11/27/08 05:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I dont know where does the anise smell thing come from, my gyms smell rancid, horrible, kind of like cat pee (not so strong) but they have an acid smell, mixed with old and worn socks and someting i dont know, but never want to eat.

they smelled kind of not-too-bad when fresh, now drying in heat they are getting on my nerves (and nose). i tried hanging them outside and they got more soggy and humid, i had to throw some. anyways i got some dry in kind of no-too-bad conditions, they turn darker, kind of black when they dont dry properly, and the ones i cut in peaces to dry better got all black and so. im wondering if thats the oxidation of psilocybin (i hope so)

here are some more pictures of them dry:


dont know whats wrong with my camera, they far away pictures get blurry (and yes, i change the macro thing)
anyways im planning on eating a lot of em tomorrow, i got 40g dried i think ill take 20 or 30g, ill do that or amanita muscaria. last week end i ate amanitas and got no effects.... i dont know what to eat this one.... got to say i never flipped with shrooms and i want to do it soon, BLG might be my solution.

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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
    #9323229 - 11/27/08 07:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

a urine smell is a bad sign, it could mean your mushrooms are no longer edible. Especially if you hung them outside, that's just asking for trouble.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: N2loma]
    #9324001 - 11/27/08 10:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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In order to dry mushrooms you need heat and some air exchange (unless you are freeze-drying).  The more heat, the less fresh air you need; the more fresh air (like a fan), the less heat you need.  Too much heat will degrade the psilocybin and psilocin.  Take it from there.

According to Stamets, Gymnopilus spectabilis vary quite a bit as far as active chemicals are concerned.  No one can tell you how potent they would be.  Also, anise or licorice smelling BLG's are very rare.  I have never found one and I specialize in Gymnopilus.




Dang, never found a sweet n' smelly Gym? The local ones I find are active and smell up a storm, and seem to otherwise match the classic G. junonius. Must be an East Coast US thing. Maybe there's a way I can send you a few "for scientific purposes" next season...:grin:

Good finds OP! I agree with Senor that the potency issue is a big question mark with the Gyms and I have no idea how my finds match up with the G. purpuratus on the Calculator. My sensitivity to substances makes it even more difficult to give advice on dosages, but I get a solid level 3 experience with 10-12 dry gram equivalents of fresh Gyms when I lack tolerance; 10-12 grams dried Gyms seems to give me a solid level 2. 20 grams dried/20 grams dried equiv. of fresh will likely give a level 3 and level 4 experience, respectively (I've yet to try).

I'm not certain how one "goes metric" with the experience scale, but I think of "high/low" level experiences. For example, a high level 2 bordered on a level 3, but didn't quite make it based on the quality of the visuals.




Nope, never found one.  I would be interested in cross-checking your strain to see what, if any, differences there are.  In all the research Hesler did for the monograph there was exactly ONE collection that smelled strongly of licorice: Bigelow from New Hampshire 12254.  And Hesler studied dozens of collections from Maine to California and from Nova Scotia to North Carolina. 

I always preferred G. luteus to Gymnopilus spectabilis any day for potency.  And the name thing, G. junonius is really the synonym for G. spectabilis, not the other way around.  Two years ago Mycologia, the peer-reviewed journal for the United States used both names separately in an article two years ago.  The junonius thing is really more British, as is Index Fungorum.  As such, I don't accept it.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
    #9324017 - 11/27/08 10:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Do as you will, mate, but I wouldn't eat those.  They look nasty and your description doesn't inspire confidence.  Good luck and be careful.


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    #9327579 - 11/28/08 04:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Do as you will, mate, but I wouldn't eat those.  They look nasty and your description doesn't inspire confidence.  Good luck and be careful.




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    #9327725 - 11/28/08 04:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Do as you will, mate, but I wouldn't eat those.  They look nasty and your description doesn't inspire confidence.  Good luck and be careful.


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    #9327791 - 11/28/08 05:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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They grow on dead hardwoods right?




Yep.They grow on conifer as well.Some species of Gymnopilus even grow in soil.




About 9/10ths of my finds have been clusters emerging from underground wood, frequently at the bases of oaks and in grassy forest edges (tree host unknown). One cluster was found in a suburban yard. The remaining few clusters were found growing directly from logs (probably oak and/or maple). I've found some type of small (probably inactive) Gym growing from a pine log, too.

The timing and ecology of their fruiting is problematic because of semblances to Deadly Galerinas (thankfully distant), some types of Honey Mushrooms (mostly well-aged specimens with greenish stalks), poisonous Omphalotus/Jack-o-Lanterns, some yellow Pholiotas, and harmless Tricholomopsis species known as "yellow and red riders." I wouldn't be surprised if there were more look-alikes that I haven't yet encountered...

I'm currently in mourning because the Gym season appears to have ended for me :sad:


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    #9327820 - 11/28/08 05:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Senor, personally I prefer "G. spectabilis" too, as it describes the mushroom well. I'll probably revert to using that name for the BLGs. Stupid European mycologists :mad2:


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    #9327831 - 11/28/08 05:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I've only found Gymnopilus junonius/spectabilis:grin: one time and they were growing from an underground Hemlock root.

Mostly just Gymnopilus luteus around here.I always see them on hardwood logs and stumps and at times on half dead trees.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: DannyGlick]
    #9328743 - 11/28/08 08:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, like if you can't find them, they aren't there. :rolleyes:

:lol:

Just teasing because I know exactly what you mean.  I defy anyone to come to my county and find a mushroom I haven't but was looking for.

N2loma:  :yesnod: on all points.  Btw, nice to see you posting.  You were missed.  :heart:


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: N2loma]
    #9332552 - 11/29/08 04:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I've only started mushroom hunting this past spring and have been very lucky with my BGL finds. Lots of fresh frozen and dried/powdered.

I'm curious as to the area that you live in.  I am in Maryland - along the Potomac and Chesapeake Bay.  It looks to me like the season is over here as well.  I have found a number of BGLs locations recently, however, the BGLs recently found have been 7-10+/- days past collecting. One site had three, each cluster slightly-smaller-than-a-garbage-can-lid(!)growing at the base of a huge almost dead Maple.  Around here they seem to prefer Ash and Maple although members in the Mych. club that I belong to say that Oaks are good too.

Although maybe off thread, I'm curious about the G. luteous and G.purpuratus and any comments that you may have about them.


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9332564 - 11/29/08 05:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ate them yesterday, they were dry and tasted nasty, wanted some psychoactivity so i ate them despite the bitterness, they had no effect on me i think, maby i felt something, but very mild and i could be wrong cause we also smoked weed and listened to trance (that music gets you "high") but considering the almost 30 g i ate  thy were pretty shitty.
maybe dried them bad or i dont know what.... they certainly had all the signs of being a blg... starting to think i might have too much tolerance to shrooms...

i actually also had a broth made with a. muscaria prepared with milk... no psychoactivity there either...


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Re: Gymnopilus spectabilis (big laughing gym) identification. [Re: wood man]
    #9332583 - 11/29/08 05:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If you would like them examined by microscopy let me know.  Sorry to hear about your luck.


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    #9332629 - 11/29/08 05:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Curious you mentioned ash trees, iso, since one of the later clusters I found was in grass near ashes and a few other trees and I'd never heard of Gyms being associated with them. At one of my best sites the same species of Gym appeared to occur at and around the bases of red maples and oaks (white I think...but could've been red) in equal frequency. No luck with the active Gyms around conifers yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to find some in the future.

If you find well-aged Gyms, you may still be able to use them dried. I've collected and dried a fair share of shabby Gyms this season, but thankfully most were fresh goldies.

I live in Virginia not too far from the Potomac, so the mushroom season is probably near-identical with your area. Wish I knew more about G. luteous and purpuratus myself!


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    #9332725 - 11/29/08 05:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What the heck is G. luteous?


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    #9332760 - 11/29/08 05:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My sense of humor being what it is, what would the answer be without the (.)?


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    #9332780 - 11/29/08 05:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Haha Mister Funnyguy.I guess you mean Gymnopilus luteus.


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    #9332784 - 11/29/08 05:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My best take home find was a stand of mostly pre-dried BGLs that after fully dried weighed in at 240g.  Not sure of the wood - they have been excellent.  I'm still looking in areas where the aroma was exceptionally sweet and strong several weeks ago.


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    #9334054 - 11/29/08 09:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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What the heck is G. luteous?




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    #14836727 - 07/28/11 04:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

hello isosanity. tonight i went walking around the golf coarse that is behind my neighborhood and i found an old rotted tree with a very large amount of what i think is Gymnopilus junonius.( im in Louisiana btw) they are babys right now so i plan on going back to check on them. there was around 60 - 100 of them. they were orange yellow with a darker tint at the top of the cap and the stem went from white to a light yellow. im doing a spore print now so i will update you and i am also waiting to put pictures up.

does this species grow in large clumps like this?

for now i will put up a pic of what it looks most like


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