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Emperor Reishi
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Sclerotia forming edibles...
#9303406 - 11/24/08 11:04 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anybody have info on any sclerotia forming edibles. I was reading some posts recently about them, but I am mostly working with edibles right now, and thought they were intriguing. I also had some ideas for a few projects i would like to try with them. Do Shiitake or Reishi form them, and or what edibles do, and would you follow the same guidelines as used for the P. Mexicana... ect...
Thanks in advance guys
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Juke Adro
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Do Shiitake or Reishi form them: no
Pleurotus tuberregium does and Morels do
Morels are hard/border impossible to grow Tubberregium is easy
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Re: Sclerotia forming edibles... [Re: Juke Adro]
#9304623 - 11/24/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been reading about sclerotia lately, but I do not understand how it works... I understand that if you "plant" the sclerotia, it will grow a mushroom, but how do you grow more sclerotia? and does 1 rock of sclerotia produce only 1 mushroom?
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Emperor Reishi
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Re: Sclerotia forming edibles... [Re: jjb007]
#9309056 - 11/25/08 05:49 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did some reading up and it seems that Stamets has isolated one strain of Maitake that forms sclerotia which was previously unreported in maitake. I dunno if thats the same strain he sell on his page, but i{m going to ask them... but if anybody has a sclerotia forming maitake strain i would love to trade a wedge or whole petri with them.
There is also apparently Zhu Ling (Polyporus umbellatus), a sclerotia-forming mushroom
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The stone mushroom also forms them, pretty neat species
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Emperor Reishi
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Quote:
Emperor Reishi said: I did some reading up and it seems that Stamets has isolated one strain of Maitake that forms sclerotia which was previously unreported in maitake. I dunno if thats the same strain he sell on his page, but i{m going to ask them... but if anybody has a sclerotia forming maitake strain i would love to trade a wedge or whole petri with them.
There is also apparently Zhu Ling (Polyporus umbellatus), a sclerotia-forming mushroom
So, i contacted them at FP and they used to offer the sclerotia forming Maitake, but no longer do... If anybody comes across one please let me know, I'm very interested.
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but how do you grow more sclerotia? and does 1 rock of sclerotia produce only 1 mushroom?
Sclerotia form again in the substrate as nutrition allows. 1 sclerotia can produce several mushrooms larger than the mass of the sclerotia itself. I thinking that sclerotia type strains don't give out as high of yields as other strains, however.
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Emperor Reishi
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if you bury the sclerotia in a growth medium, won't it produce a regular mycellial mass as well (ie regular fluffly stuff) I thought that overall the fungus grew normal, but in addition formed these stones in case severe condition killed the bulk of its mass it wouldn't completely die.
So in that case the number of mushrooms wouldn't really depend on the size of sclerotia, but rather how well it colonized the given substrate... But I don't know much about these just yet, so tell me if I'm wrong.
Thanx...
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I have a question about this! Last week, I started up a couple of black morel spawn jars using rye grass seed. Growth was slow at first but things seem to be picking up. The jars started getting little white specks on the glass, that are slowly turning a pinkish-orange color. Could that be the beginnings of sclerotia formation? If so, should I not shake the jars?
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denger
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Re: Sclerotia forming edibles... [Re: Paresthesia]
#9377675 - 12/06/08 08:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Paresthesia said: The jars started getting little white specks on the glass, that are slowly turning a pinkish-orange color.
This sounds like yeast contamination...
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Mycelio
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Re: Sclerotia forming edibles... [Re: denger]
#9377856 - 12/06/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, sounds like, but morel sclerotia appear this way. They start as white mycelium knots, growing bigger, turning orange and later brown, when fully mature.
@Paresthesia Don't shake, just let them grow and mature.
Carsten
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