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Invisiblesir tripsalot
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No Evolution threads allowed.
    #930518 - 10/04/02 02:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

They will be locked.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #930606 - 10/04/02 02:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Why do people find it so hard believe in the possibility that evolution and God coexist?


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: Adom]
    #930639 - 10/04/02 02:58 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know... I believe in Creation and Evolution simultaneously working as a team in harmony...


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Invisiblesir tripsalot
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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: Shroomism]
    #930673 - 10/04/02 03:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see where I said there was no god?
And the thread I made merely provided evidence for evolution. Much like the threads with quotes from the bible back up whatever they are supposed to say.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #931408 - 10/04/02 10:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That's a rather broad statement.  I locked your thread not only because it dealt with evolution but primarily the way in which it was going to be discussed.  As moderators we give great weight to the initial post in a thread.  Your thread was strictly science.

Don't get your knickers in a twist we are probably going to open a science forum soo and you can post about evolution to your heart's content. :smile:

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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: ]
    #931428 - 10/04/02 10:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lol. can users who have only been here for weeks be moderators? if so I prematurely nominate myself for the science forum. nyahhhh.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: ]
    #932100 - 10/04/02 03:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

so the philosophy forum is going to turn into an unintelligable, religious dogma nonsense forum. no facts allowed just idiocy. if you want to talk about facts then go to the science forum right?


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: 1stimer]
    #932198 - 10/04/02 04:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

maybe we should add the science forum in here


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: 1stimer]
    #932292 - 10/04/02 04:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

so the philosophy forum is going to turn into an unintelligable, religious dogma nonsense forum. no facts allowed just idiocy. if you want to talk about facts then go to the science forum right?

*shudder*
I hope not.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: CleverName]
    #932398 - 10/04/02 05:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

maybe we should add the science forum in here

I agree.....


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #932525 - 10/04/02 06:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know how that's going to work...

Are you suggesting SUB-forums?

S&P
-Esoterica
-Science
-Theory (Scholarly stuff)
-Religion

I don't know... I think it might just get a little out of hand with the classifications.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: Sclorch]
    #932538 - 10/04/02 06:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah it would get really messy...

A lot of people show support for the Science and Technology forum...

How about this..


Science and Technology Forum
Yes
No, That stuff belongs in S&P




Votes accepted from (12/31/69 07:00 PM) to (No end specified)
View the results of this poll



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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: Shroomism]
    #932682 - 10/04/02 07:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Actually- I vote 'NO, unless...'

I think S&P can handle it... a Science forum is unnecessary. The problem arises when Science conflicts with Fantasy. It's funny that philosophy can handle science, but you can't get a Ph.D. in Alien Studies. Whatever... I'm just that asshole skeptic, right???

[edit: some stuff]


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Edited by Sclorch (10/04/02 07:56 PM)


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: Shroomism]
    #932695 - 10/04/02 07:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I voted no, that stuff belongs in S&P.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: ]
    #932803 - 10/04/02 08:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I can't believe that an evolution thread can't be put in the S&P forum. As we all know, most philosophy arises out of questions that science brings and most science arises out of philosophical questions. It is a beautiful relationship that can't be divided.

I agree if we are just discussing the definition of evolution or other science then that isn't necessarily appropriate. Evolution is a very philosophical subject indeed.

Being a mod. doesn't make your opinion fact. If a discussion arises that hasn't been previously discussed in some university textbook, that doesn't make it non-philosophical. There are many ideas and opinions. If the question even needs to be asked "is this philosophical" then it belongs in this forum. Only the painfully obvious non-philosophical threads should be moved or locked.


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: chemkid]
    #932907 - 10/04/02 09:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Only the painfully obvious non-philosophical threads should be moved or locked.

Oh GREAT!
I bet you'd tell me that a post about the allosteric regulation of phosphofructokinase shouldn't be allowed in S&P either. :wink:
What is this world coming to?! 


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: Sclorch]
    #932958 - 10/04/02 09:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, enzymes can be a very philosophical topic. Especially when you get into protein folding. I'm sure it is dreadfully boring to most but I find it fascinating.

Again, if we are just giving science lessons then I agree that it shouldn't be in S&P. Otherwise.....let's talk!!!


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: chemkid]
    #932993 - 10/04/02 09:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, enzymes can be a very philosophical topic. Especially when you get into protein folding. I'm sure it is dreadfully boring to most but I find it fascinating.

Yeah, I'm a sucker for that stuff too...


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: chemkid]
    #933049 - 10/04/02 10:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sir Tripsalot seems to be hellbent on causing division and controversy in S&P. A debate can be healthy and promote thinking or it can be instigated merely to cause fighting among the members. The former is great for a forum, the latter is not. This is just common sense.

There are dividing lines and implicit rules for posting in S&P whether anyone is aware of them or not.

Rule number one is that the subject must have a direct link to either spirituality or philosophy and that link must be evident in the title and/or the initial post in the thread.

Pure science is not to be discussed here anymore than politics or mushroom cultivation. These lines of demarcation are not arbitrary and they are in place for a reason. This is common sense. Those that are anarchist or anti-authority will see any restriction on their posting as unfair, unreasoned, mean, or anything else negative that they can think of but that certainly does not mean it is so.

The topic of evolution can easily be discussed here if a person follows some reasonable guidelines. Here are just a few examples:

Title: Evolution creates a problem for philosophy

"I just wanted to point out that evolution is a fact and that it changes the metaphysics portion of philosophy because it shows that man evolved from a bunch of chemicals. That means he cannot have freewill and that consciousness is nothing but an electro-chemical reaction in our brains."

Title: Teleology should be included in science.

"Currently in science teleology is excluded because it shows that there are reasons for the existence of things and that the reason can be shown to have spiritual links."

Bad example; Title: Dinosaur fossils prove evolution to be true.

"The recent discovery of certain fossils prove beyond any doubt that evolution is a fact and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong."

Imagine a loud buzzer going off when the last thread is started in S&P.

Wrong!

Currently we do not have a place to discuss evolution other than the Chill Out forum or OTD. They are "catchall" forums to discuss whatever dosn't fit anywhere else. And sorry to say, evolution, when discussed from a scientific viewpoint does not belong here.

In fact, this thread, the second one Sir Tripsalot started lately, is not about spirituality or philosophy either. It rightfully belongs in the suggestion forum.

Have a subject that is either directly philosophical or spiritual? Post it in this forum. Not? Find somewhere else to post it.

Cheers,


Edited by Anonymous (10/05/02 03:04 AM)


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Re: No Evolution threads allowed. [Re: ]
    #933067 - 10/04/02 10:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm....

I see your point... but you should take into consideration the audience he wishes to address.

Maybe he thinks he'll get better responses here.


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