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Sect. Aztecorum.
    #9294378 - 11/22/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: inski]
    #9294383 - 11/22/08 09:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #9294413 - 11/22/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, they are old images I used to illustrate my recent finding!
This particular pale sub strain I suspect to be leucistic and produces some very interesting and beautifully formed mushrooms:)
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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: inski]
    #9294476 - 11/22/08 10:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

the pale one is very interesting but the picture on the right is magical

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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #9294499 - 11/22/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I used a tripod and a long exposure for that one!
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edit: oh, you realize they are the same species!


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: inski]
    #9294514 - 11/22/08 10:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Lovely photos as always inski. Great work too!:thumbup:

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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: wisp]
    #9294574 - 11/22/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks,
I also forgot to add, Pileus, strongly hygrophanous, fading to almost white.
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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: inski]
    #9296898 - 11/23/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

pleurocystidia may be present with section aztecorum.
Section Aztecorum is typified by mango or asymmetric shaped spores in side view.
Why have you ruled out section Semilanceatae?
nice mushrooms:yesnod:

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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: HerbBaker]
    #9297395 - 11/23/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome mushroom,and pics,inski:thumbup:


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: inski]
    #9297845 - 11/23/08 02:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'm leaning more towards Section Semilanceatae (in the strict sense and not combined with Sect. Cyanescens as per Guzman 1995), especially in light of recent genetic studies that puts the species Psilocybe stuntzii (which also lacks pleurocystidia) in with the Semilanceatae.

The Stuntzae species with pleurocystidia (subaeruginascens, ovoideocystidiata) are closer to the Cubensae.  If this is accurate it invalidates the Stuntzae section name.


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: Workman]
    #9300689 - 11/23/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, using Guzman's 1995 Updated key to the Sections, I still come to Sect.Aztecorum due to the strongly hygrophanous pileus, drying whitish. Spores asymmetric in profile or side view and pleurocystidia scarce or, rarely, common.
Spore description: Purplish brown in deposit, ellipsoid to subellipsoid in face view, subellipsoid or mango shaped and asymmetric in side view, 10-14.5 (15) by 5.5-7.5 (8)microns, with a thick wall up to 1.5microns.
I have no access to any updated information that may change my findings  but am very interested in learning more!
Thanks for the input guy's:)
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Re: Sect. Aztecorum.(More pics) [Re: inski]
    #9328763 - 11/28/08 06:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Sect. Aztecorum.(More pics) [Re: inski]
    #9328841 - 11/28/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Wow, those pins are really dark!

That mycelium is very wispy, kind of like Ps. tampanensis.


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum.(More pics) [Re: CureCat]
    #9328861 - 11/28/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Very dark in colour, especially when the primordia first appear! they gradually lighten in colour to very pale as can be seen in the first pics!
The mycelium is a tissue culture from a fresh specimen, I spawned the soaked sawdust with colonized corn.
I wonder if it may fruit on sawdust alone?
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Re: Sect. Aztecorum.(More pics) [Re: inski]
    #9328890 - 11/28/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Nice.  Yeah, I did notice that the mushrooms lighten up as they mature.
Hmmm, I think they would fruit from sawdust only, but that's just a guess.

You never cease to impress me with your finds or photos.


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum.(More pics) [Re: CureCat]
    #9328961 - 11/28/08 07:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks, I think I'll let this sawdust completely colonize then try to initiate primordia formation, if that is not successful I'll use the sawdust to spawn some wood chips!
For a quick comparison of the difference in colour between pins and mature specimens just see my avatar, this also shows the extreme differences in the macroscopic form of the pileus.
I still believe this species belongs in section Aztecorum and is closely related to Psilocybe baeocystis, maybe closer to Ps. aztecorum var. bonetii due to the low altitude and favour of pine debris, this species occasionally has trifurcate cheilocystidia and I have viewed 2,3 and 4 spored basidia
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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: Workman]
    #9329037 - 11/28/08 08:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm leaning more towards Section Semilanceatae (in the strict sense and not combined with Sect. Cyanescens as per Guzman 1995), especially in light of recent genetic studies that puts the species Psilocybe stuntzii (which also lacks pleurocystidia) in with the Semilanceatae.

The Stuntzae species with pleurocystidia (subaeruginascens, ovoideocystidiata) are closer to the Cubensae.  If this is accurate it invalidates the Stuntzae section name.



Who did the genetic analysis that you are referring to??

Wow, Ps. stuntzii with Liberty Caps, and Ps. ovoideocystidiata and Ps. subaeruginascens with Cubes.  That's a twist.

What about Ps. caerulipes??  Where does that species pan out?


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: CureCat]
    #9329140 - 11/28/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, it all gets a bit confusing!
I still believe this species fits into section Aztecorum as stated above and hopefully will have some more fresh specimens for further examination!
I believe the spores to be subellipsoid in face view and subellipsiod or mango shaped in side view, whereas I think Workman viewed them as being subrhomboid in face view which would lead to sect. Stunzii.
I'm not sure!
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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: inski]
    #9329204 - 11/28/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i guees this mushrooms will require a casing , but also will be lovely if you can experiment with both ways , with casing and without , but they look like fragile mushrooms  that why i guees they need a casing to hold moisture,

how long this mushrooms take to developed 2 days. 5 days 1 week , can last 3 weeks, etc,?

what altitute is your area inski?


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Re: Sect. Aztecorum. [Re: cactu]
    #9329269 - 11/28/08 09:11 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Hi cactu:)
That is a good idea, I'll case half of the surface and leave the other half!
The fruit body takes between 2 and 3 weeks to fully mature, sometimes a bit longer, the altitude is between 20 and 80 meters, quite close to sea level!
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