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1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam?
    #9293175 - 11/22/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

hi all...
this is my first attemt at an honey lc....
i pcd for 20 minutes but i just got this new pc and it took longer than i expected to pressue up.... so the overall time on the stove was considerably longer...
when i inoculated it there was some sediment and the overall color was amber...
this is what it looks like a week later....
is it contaminated or is that amber color from the sediment/original color of the liquid?

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: nerol]
    #9293197 - 11/22/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

try a test jar.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: doze]
    #9293230 - 11/22/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

My honey LC:s look the same. There's no way to know but to test it on a substrate.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: dead]
    #9293349 - 11/22/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

all right will do guys... thanks :smile:

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: dead]
    #9293485 - 11/22/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Jars good, thats regular mycelium. No way to know if its mush mycelium though. Knock up a few jars with it.
Thats the down side of LC. Not a big enough problem to bother me lol.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #9293507 - 11/22/08 06:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

looks fine to me

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
    #9293519 - 11/22/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

It's simple if you think about it.

I make several LC:s. Then I make one jar per LC, test each LC... then if even one LC is viable I can do the rest of the jars again and use only that LC and toss the rest.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: dead]
    #9296162 - 11/23/08 07:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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dead said:
It's simple if you think about it.

I make several LC:s. Then I make one jar per LC, test each LC... then if even one LC is viable I can do the rest of the jars again and use only that LC and toss the rest.




And you can do 10+ LCs WBS/PFtek jars for the cost of a single spore syringe.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #9296353 - 11/23/08 08:47 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i am all for it.... just unsure seeing as it is my first attempt i am not 100% on what to look out for...
that said the lc's i have made are from prints/syringes from my first/only grow so i am that much more unsure...
though i have a ton of wbs and brf healthily colonized and colonizing from my own syringes so hopefully all will be well...
thanks again all for your guidance :smile:

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: nerol]
    #9296380 - 11/23/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Iv heard if you have sediment you filter it in a few coffee filters or somthing and pc again. 

I too am soon going to make my first LC's in pint jars with light karo.  My pressure cooker is fairly new to me, only used it once.  So i'm in the same boat.  Good luck man!


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: mudkip]
    #9296388 - 11/23/08 09:05 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

do you have to use a pressure cooker when making a lc?


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296404 - 11/23/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

not entirely sure what more experienced folk have to say on it but if you follow this tek you do not...http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5238137/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296415 - 11/23/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

cool ill check it out thanks


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296601 - 11/23/08 10:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Tylerdurden21 said:
do you have to use a pressure cooker when making a lc?





The only technique I'm aware of that can use something other than a pressure cooker to sterilize it are PFtek jars.
Microwaves are highly contaminated things so expect higher contamination ratios than if you just bought a pressure cooker.


Edit: I am of course leaving out more exotic methods of sterilization like EtO, gamma and electron beam, along with UV-C.

Edited by alkylbenzene23 (11/23/08 10:29 AM)

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #9296797 - 11/23/08 11:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

also, do you have to incubate the lc jar or can i leave it room temperature?


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296813 - 11/23/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

have been incubating mine... says in the link even :smile:

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296846 - 11/23/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

can you recommend a super cheapo incubator that i can make


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296886 - 11/23/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i am under the impression that lots of people do not use incubators... but i live in an older apartment where the temperature changes a lot... and it gets extremely cold in the winter... and and and...
but i use the incubator described here.... http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek#a5
it is shown about 2/3rds the way down the page...

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9296893 - 11/23/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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also, do you have to incubate the lc jar or can i leave it room temperature?



I was wondering this same thing and The answer I got was yes you can leave it at room temperature.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: nw_shroomy]
    #9299959 - 11/23/08 08:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So if i am using this method ..http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5238137/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1 does anyone think that after i screw the jar lid on that i should put tape over the hole? You do it for pretty much everthing else why not this right.

someone please let me know i have 15 min left till i need to put the lid on!!:confused:


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9300437 - 11/23/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i did that tek and i just put foil over me lid. i was all like done and done. turned out fine and looked similar to yours.

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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9300453 - 11/23/08 09:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Your link doesnt work. It just links to this post.

To the OP, your LC looks fine just a bit of sediment. But you wont really know until test it on some substrate. Theres definatly mycelium growing. The question? Mushroom of mould.

Use less honey. Ive heard that 1% works just aswell if not better.

Even better than that, use malt dextrose.


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Re: 1st try with honey lc... caramelization or contam? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9304960 - 11/24/08 03:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i certainly will:) thanks all...

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