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mushroomkang
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terrarium ( what do yall think )
#9272650 - 11/19/08 02:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im using the pf tek my jars are almost ready to birth. Im going to dunk and roll ect.... I am going to use a cheap cooler with the perite tek. The reason I am using such a simple method is I am still new to all this and so far I am loving it.
My question is what tips do you guys have for getting the best bang out of the 4 cakes I have? I really want to succeed so I can make a better terrarium in the future. Like I stated earlier I love doing this and I have always needed a hobby so I really want it to work the best it can with what I have.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushroomkang]
#9272688 - 11/19/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean are you planning to drill holes in it or something else, or just straight up cooler with perlite?
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushroomkang]
#9272705 - 11/19/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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make a monobucket. same principal as a mono bucket just smaller scale and if you f*ck up then you wont have all your eggs in one basket.
what you do: get h-poo grind hpoo on a metal screen so that it is finely shredded put in a canvas tote bag or a pillow case and pasteurize for 2 hours. after 2 hours take poo out of cooler/ bucket/ whatever you pasteurized in and let cool over night.
when it is cool take your cakes and pop them out into a plastic bag. i assume your cakes arent fully colonized due to your other thread and scrape the uncolinized part off. discard uncolinized part. take the rest of the cake and mash the cake into small pieces with your hands.
now make a mono bucket. it is basically a bucket with a lid and holes in the side. you want about 4 holes in the bucket.
then take your h-poo and put about a 1 and a half inch layer down. then spawn. then another layer. cover your holes with micropore tape.
search for ottos bucket tek.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: skaterickets]
#9272708 - 11/19/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is what I am asking... what tips do you have to add to the perlite tek. Its not to in depth just explains how to use perlite. I know I need to mist and fan but what other tips do you guys have. Just need these to turn out decent so I dont get all depressed if/when they dont.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushroomkang]
#9272752 - 11/19/08 03:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doze's suggestion sounds pretty good, I would take that advice... except... monotubs/monobuckets are not for beginners unless you feel you really got the hang of sterile procedures. I would do that setup maybe, but not try bulk.
Make a least 4 holes(I would do 6-8), fill 'em with polyfill. Add 5 inches of perlite at the bottom. You can go the extra mile and hook up a cool mist and it will be very beneficial.
As I said, I would do cakes first, but if you feel confident, why not go for bulk?
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: skaterickets]
#9272812 - 11/19/08 03:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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really just tryn to stick to the pf tek so I can till I learn a bit more. Then I plan on taking it a step farther. So how should i set up this cooler for max benifits without having to buy a humidifier and such. Just using this time as my learning experience. Btw the cooler is a small stir foam one holds around a six pack.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushroomkang]
#9272825 - 11/19/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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put holes around it like the shotgun tek and put 3-4 inches of perlite.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: doze]
#9281216 - 11/20/08 07:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok put holes in it and 3-4 inch perlite. let it sit for a few hours checked and the walls where damp.... then i put in my closet wich is heated to 80 degrees. and check the next day and the walls are dry and the perlite seems to be dry?? any suggestions ( no i didnt spray any was just testing the terrarium out) is that my prob no misting?
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushroomkang]
#9281557 - 11/20/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe but ime perlite seems alot drier than it actually is the water coats the surface of it. some people like to put 1/2 inch of water in the bottom but i dont. if you do add some hydrogen peroxide to it.
you should really consider mono buckets though. they are alot easier than everyone thinks. kinda half way inbetween a full flegded monotub and cakes.
maybe your next grow. good luck
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: doze]
#9281897 - 11/20/08 09:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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buy a thermometer that has a hygrometer- humidity meter- with it for reference. they are cheap and can be purchased at walmart or similar store
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushrume man]
#9282246 - 11/20/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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...but whatever you do...DON'T GIVE UP! and for GODS SAKE, don't TELL ANYBODY! if you fuck up, you fuck up, it's part of the process, so GET USED TO IT... Growin shrooms is HARD man... It's Fun as fuck, but its hard... Anybody that tells you otherwise; Is Lying... Think about it like skateboarding... Pro's make it LOOK easy...Right? like, you see em and you go, "hey! I could do that!"... but don't kid yourself; anybody thats ever skated knows... it's a alot of pain before the gain... you dig? so, yeah, that's my 2 cent... Keep the change ya filthy rascal! lol.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: FellowGrower]
#9282918 - 11/21/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
FellowGrower said: Growin shrooms is HARD man...
Growing shrooms is actually very easy if you're not an idiot.
For the OP: Stop heating your closet to 80 degrees. Mushroom don't need heat for fruiting, neither do they need cold for that matter. Room temperature will be just fine.
If you're going for the Shotgun FC you need holes on all six sides of your FC. Then some moist perlite on the bottom of it, AND an important part: you need to ELEVATE the FC above the floor (put it on some empty jars or something) so the air can get in from the bottom holes.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: dead]
#9282960 - 11/21/08 01:26 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol. I started 3 wks ago for the 1st time w/ Mycobags, and I've put practically no effort into it. After inoculation, I mixed the bags once, and now I just look at them. I'm expecting shrooms in the near future, so no, I definitely wouldn't say it's hard. I'm not lying either.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: doze]
#9283046 - 11/21/08 01:48 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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doze said: make a monobucket. same principal as a mono bucket just smaller scale and if you f*ck up then you wont have all your eggs in one basket.
what you do: get h-poo grind hpoo on a metal screen so that it is finely shredded put in a canvas tote bag or a pillow case and pasteurize for 2 hours. after 2 hours take poo out of cooler/ bucket/ whatever you pasteurized in and let cool over night.
when it is cool take your cakes and pop them out into a plastic bag. i assume your cakes arent fully colonized due to your other thread and scrape the uncolinized part off. discard uncolinized part. take the rest of the cake and mash the cake into small pieces with your hands.
now make a mono bucket. it is basically a bucket with a lid and holes in the side. you want about 4 holes in the bucket.
then take your h-poo and put about a 1 and a half inch layer down. then spawn. then another layer. cover your holes with micropore tape.
search for ottos bucket tek.
ive done my good deed for the day
I think I read that tutorial at one point, shower cap over the top and misting too? He got a good yield for such a small space.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: Shaggy2Doped]
#9283640 - 11/21/08 06:19 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Theres a link in my signiture that explains the shotgun fruiting chamber.
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: veda_sticks]
#9284589 - 11/21/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Have to heat the closet a little atleast it stays 65 in there. temp inside terrarium is around 77. thats with no cakes in it yet still experimenting. going to try a bowl of perlite and water in the side of terr that isnt being used and see what happens. plan on placing in 2 cakes in a few hours...
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Re: terrarium ( what do yall think ) [Re: mushroomkang]
#9286490 - 11/21/08 04:19 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushroomkang said: Have to heat the closet a little atleast it stays 65 in there. temp inside terrarium is around 77.
How cold is your home if you have to heat a closet to 65?
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Nibin's Guide for Noobs
some easy teks on bulk & grain prep. (my journal)
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