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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: cyranode]
    #13785823 - 01/14/11 11:48 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

k, so did yu crumble them or dunk them and leave them whole?

if you left them whole then just cover the cake in moist verm and place in the FC

if you crumbled them then covered in casing you just need to wait for the myc to re-knit back together (4-5days) then put it into fruiting conditions and keep the casing layer moist/damp but not wet.

you want it to be moist but still fluffy/air-y so it has the lil humid pockets of air in the casing layer that help pins form.:super:

try not to go over 1/2" thick for the casing layer. :thumbup:

sounds like your getting there.

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #13785944 - 01/14/11 12:16 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

i have some coir/verm trays that are ready to go into my sgfc, do i dunk before i do this? or do i just take the lid off and fruit?thanks


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: monkiman]
    #13785959 - 01/14/11 12:20 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

dunk after your 1st flush if your sub depth is equal/more than 3".

if it looks dry when you put them into fruting just mist them. :super:

your substrate should have enough moisture for the 1st flush, then dunk.


so just fruit'em. :scaryshroom::thumbup:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #13785991 - 01/14/11 12:30 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

thank you, its awesome getting these fast replies.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: monkiman]
    #13788851 - 01/14/11 10:35 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)



which style should i use?

also: does anyone know if this is an antifungal wbs mix? http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?proId=prod10260002&itemId=cat80006&tabs=general
i cant find anything that says it is, but you never know


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: cyranode]
    #13788942 - 01/14/11 11:00 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

depends on what kind of material your using...:shrug2:

an that wbs has peanuts/juniper berries and raisens.  you dont want that kind of wbs. :nonono:


look for penningtons or wally world/meijers brand


you want wbs that has milo/millet/sunflower seeds.  stay away from fruits/nuts/corn of anykind. :thumbup:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #13792329 - 01/15/11 05:24 PM (13 years, 15 days ago)

can the corn in microwave popcorn bags be used for substrate?


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: cyranode]
    #13792349 - 01/15/11 05:28 PM (13 years, 15 days ago)

Popcorn is a very poor grain choice to use.

Not only that, its usually coated with chemical wanna be butter stuff in the popcorn bags.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: cyranode]
    #13792354 - 01/15/11 05:29 PM (13 years, 15 days ago)

why would you want to do that it would work just wash all the butter off it is cheaper to buy a bag of yellow or whit pop corn


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: misfit78]
    #13792375 - 01/15/11 05:34 PM (13 years, 15 days ago)

I bet WBS is even cheaper.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Base Icks]
    #13796009 - 01/16/11 10:11 AM (13 years, 14 days ago)

WBS is 7 USD for 20 lbs. at your local hardware/feed supply store. It's significantly cheaper, I also can get 55 lbs. of organic rye for 20 USD. :rockon:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #13796039 - 01/16/11 10:22 AM (13 years, 14 days ago)

I just purchased two 10cc syringes and was curious as to how many jars each syringe should be used to colonize. lemme know


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: br0skee]
    #13796046 - 01/16/11 10:23 AM (13 years, 14 days ago)

Are you doing PF tek or grains? Basically, the rule of thumb is 1 cc per jar. You can go a little more or a little less depending on how you want to stretch it. Personally, for quart jars of grain, I use 1.5 cc's, because I'll do G2G's on them after they're fully colonized.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #13796794 - 01/16/11 01:18 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)



I seem to be having a little problem. we saw white mold that looked like cobweb mold on our cakes. We rolled them in peroxide and put them back in the fruiting chamber. a few days went by and nothing has been happening. when we opened it up to take a look you can see two of the cakes are growing mushrooms but the rest still seem to be dormant. I think we may have stunted them with the peroxide. Is there anything we can do to get them back on track?Should we re-dunk them?


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: ziggieman]
    #13796806 - 01/16/11 01:21 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

Just wait.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: ziggieman]
    #13796915 - 01/16/11 01:47 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

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I seem to be having a little problem. we saw white mold that looked like cobweb mold on our cakes. We rolled them in peroxide and put them back in the fruiting chamber. a few days went by and nothing has been happening. when we opened it up to take a look you can see two of the cakes are growing mushrooms but the rest still seem to be dormant. I think we may have stunted them with the peroxide. Is there anything we can do to get them back on track?Should we re-dunk them?




I wish that we could have seen the cakes before the H2O2....I would
like to exclude the possibility of it being aerial myceluim which
lack of FAE can cause.

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Javadog]
    #13801586 - 01/17/11 11:25 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Once i inoculated i noticed that the syringe tore a hole in the tyvek big enough for contams to enter. i put some alcohol on the opening, soaked a coffee filter and alcohol and tied that on top of the opening. will that be enough to keep out contams? other steps to take?


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Javadog]
    #13801661 - 01/17/11 11:39 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

other then the two cakes that are growing.. we are redunking them for a couple hours (2-3hrs) but we turned the air pump to run constantly as before it was running 1 hour a day. any tips to try after putting them back in the fruiting chamber?


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: ziggieman]
    #13801687 - 01/17/11 11:43 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

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Once i inoculated i noticed that the syringe tore a hole in the tyvek big enough for contams to enter. i put some alcohol on the opening, soaked a coffee filter and alcohol and tied that on top of the opening. will that be enough to keep out contams? other steps to take?




coffee filters are just that, they only filter coffee. no place in mycology at all. :shrug:
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other then the two cakes that are growing.. we are redunking them for a couple hours (2-3hrs) but we turned the air pump to run constantly as before it was running 1 hour a day. any tips to try after putting them back in the fruiting chamber?




dude, I answered you that already in the Q & A thread.  you still havent giving them time to recover yet.  if you go dunking them now they will need even more time.  be patient and wait. :waits:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: 13shrooms]
    #13801798 - 01/17/11 12:05 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

"cooffee filters are just that, they only filter coffee. no place in mycology at all."

Yup.  Get some micropore tape for these situations.

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