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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry] * 1
    #9752019 - 02/06/09 07:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

are there air holes under your perlite?  if not put that air stone under the perlite so it can help with air flow through the perlite creating evaporation better humidity.  if you dont want to do that then you have to put holes on the bottom  of your FC. 

if that doesnt help mist your cake and perlite then fan fan fan.  FAE(frequent air exchange) is VERY important.  mist and fan alot.  fanning helps dry out the cake which in turn makes the myc want to make mushies to reproduce.  misting helps keep your perlite and verm layer moist.

just thought of something: did you let the cake consolidate(the cake may look 100% done but you wait for the inside to finish and the myc gets a better hold) 1 week b4 you birthed it?  that may be the reason for stall.  give it another week b4 you worry.IMO

everything else seems alright.

remember patience is the key.

www.mushroomvideos.com ; best tek for cakes  pf tek.  watch all 4 parts.

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: eleven11] * 1
    #9764966 - 02/09/09 09:37 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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There are many websites out there, but could an experienced cultivator point me towards one that is reputable?




all vendors here in shroomery are the best.  there is a vendor forum here also.

my personal fav is www.ralphstersspores.com

when you place an order ask for S.O.T.M (strain of the month) you get a freebie.

it only took 5 days to get my order. 

and dont think you have to see spores for it to work.  all syringes Ive ever used are crystal clear and I have had zero complaints.

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: dopper dry] * 1
    #9796793 - 02/14/09 05:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

'taint bad:thumbup:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66] * 1
    #9819463 - 02/18/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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for this successfull grow,i have just picked from the wbr 1/2 pint cakes,
i used the wbr tech on this site to mix the appropriate amount of water and rice.
boiled in a pc for 1-2 hours,,
let cool overnight in box,,
used the oven rack tech for inoculation,
incubated in dark at 74f until full colonization
i then used a small, 1 gallon fish aquarium
strained hot water and half a cap of peroxide through
perlite
layered perlite about 3 inches thick at bottom of
aquarium.
dunked cake for a few minutes
placed it directly onto the perlite
placed small tube of water in the corner
placed small aquarium pump inside the water tube,
cut holes in top of plastic cover for ventalation,
covered the holes with poly fill,
sealed the edges of the cover,
and left alone,
checking only once every 2 days,
(i was sterile the whole time i handled anything
and sprayed any room the mushies would be in, with lysol first.)
i walked into my closet one morning and huala!!! there were 40 pins growing. 3 days later 20 pins were fully grown.
if i can do this, anyone can!!!!! lol..

questions for you guys:
how long will a mushy stay good when freeze dried??
is freezing a good idea?
thanks





to answer your question, you dont freeze them to dry them.  once they are dry keep them in a plastic bag with a silica gel pack(like in beef jerky bags) and it should be good for years.

but as for your methods, all of it is out dated and their are better versions to use with  better results.

1)what is wbr?  do you mean brf or wbs?

2)if you have a PC you dont boil.  you PC @ 15lbs. for 60 min. or you steam in a pot for 90min.

3)oven tek has been deleated off shroomery for being flat out bad for anything.

4)incubating- the only thing that matters is temps. having it in the dark/light does nothing during colonization only fruiting.

5)you dont use peroxide w/perlite only cobweb mold.

6)dunking takes up to 24 hrs not a couple of minutes.

7)should have foil under your cake not directly on perlite.

8)you should have a shotgun FC with 5" of perlite and give FAE and misting when needed.

9)fish tanks arnt good for FAE neither are air pumps.

10)watch this video on the PF tek it sounds like what you were trying to accomplish

www.mushroomvideos.com ; all 4 parts of the PF tek. 

I use my cakes to crumble them in my monotub and mix with this tek. 

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/favlinker.php?Cat=&Entry=89994&F_Board=30&Thread=9289857&partnumber=&postmarker=

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: SyMaNtiCX66] * 1
    #9909842 - 03/04/09 11:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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ill be incubating quart wbs jars this week for the tek you provided. ill let you know how it goes. one question, ill have 6 quart jars of wbs. when i mix the fully colon. wbs into the coir, will i mix in 5 quarts and then use the 6th for the frosting layer? or can i use 2 on coir and a the 3rd for top layer, so that i have two separate tubs to cut down on contam. the entire grow. Thanks for any help..... E
and what is a shotgun fc and where can i find? lol




Im doing the same just got my pressure cooker today, starting liquid cultures.  (for future reference try this once you get your grains down)  Grain LC  that way you have enough inoculation for whatever you want to try.:thumbup:

DONT! I REAPEAT DONT USE A FROSTING LAYER. thats bad info.  make sure you have enough substrate left to fully cover your spawn.  spawn should NEVER be exposed b4 its fully colonized.  layer it in or dump all your spawn in and mix.  just make sure you have substrate on top NOT spawn. 

I would put a layer of sub down then 1 quart spawn, then more sub, then 2 quarts spawn, then rest of sub. 

yeah 3 quarts in 1 and 3 in the other is good.  its what Im doing and its working.lol

a shotgun FC is used for fruiting cakes and/or trays(that will fit). 

its just a whatevermade tub you drill/melt 1/4" holes on all six sides fill with 5" of moist perlite and place your trays/cakes on top of the perlite.

the holes wick up moisture into the FC keeping your humidity @ 95+.  the holes on the bottom create an up current forcing air up through the perlite evaporating moisture and pushing it up around your grow and pushing out old air and Co2.  it does the FAE for you.  you just have to make sure it stays moist by misting your perlite and cakes when needed.

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: shroomathan] * 1
    #10034287 - 03/24/09 05:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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hey man its me again. i was wondering, i see little spots of myc. starting to sprout and colon. the wbs jars. what is the usual real wait time for the full colonization? anyone? i know heat, air, contam, all play a roll but if everything was done right (Hypothetic)lol,,, whats the normal wait time???






2-3 weeks if you used a spore syringe, or 1-2 weeks if you used Liquid culture, to inoculate your wbs jars. IME.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushroomhunter10] * 1
    #10058837 - 03/28/09 08:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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How you been 13shrooms? How's your project coming along? Keep in touch man!





just got done shootin up some PE LC to 6 grain jars like 10 min ago.

getting ready to prep 6 more jars for my Chinese Dancing Tigers from ralphs.:headbang3:

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: sublimepua] * 1
    #10098299 - 04/02/09 11:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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the convntional method with fertilizer layers have a system in place for catching spores and regrowing the mushrooms




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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: YearOfChange09] * 1
    #10120483 - 04/06/09 11:23 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

click on FORUMS then click on mushroom cultivation then click post thread then ask said question.    hope that helps.


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: beng] * 1
    #10157145 - 04/13/09 10:53 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

looks like a cube to me.  Id eat it.

you should have had foil or some sort of berrior between your perlite and cake. 

check this out

www.mushroomvideos.com ; parts 1-4 pf tek


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: beng] * 1
    #10157514 - 04/13/09 12:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, unless your working with clones or isolates its all random genitics, random potencies, random eerything.


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Re: dunk and rolling [Re: trippybob] * 1
    #10298509 - 05/06/09 06:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

yes you should.  and after every flush.


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Re: wondering.. [Re: CyTheGuy] * 1
    #10353192 - 05/17/09 12:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

www.ralphstersspores.com (write your own order form and mail w/your money order and u have no paper trail + ask for SOTM, Strain Of The Month, you get a free spore syringe with every purchase)

www.sporeworks.com
www.thehawkseye.com

All great vendors

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Re: wondering.. [Re: mycochef] * 1
    #10396415 - 05/25/09 02:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Where do you go if you live in Cali?





pickin in the woods.....:shrug:

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: Lostkeys]
    #10951279 - 08/27/09 09:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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How many grams (roughly) of shrooms can I expect per flush if injected with 5cc of spore?




there are tons of variables to know that:shrug:, Im sure you will be pleased with whatever you get.:thumbup:

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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: NoxNoctum]
    #10951994 - 08/27/09 10:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

1 bag will give you enough for you and some friends to have fun a couple of times, do a couple bags in case of any contams that might surprize you.  just in case.:crazy2:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: kingsmountainview]
    #11089343 - 09/19/09 02:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

www.mushroomvideos.com ; 'splains it all 4 beginners:thumbup:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: truskool]
    #11170401 - 10/02/09 02:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

www.mushroomvideos.com ; will answer all your questions....


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: hey_im_a_fungi]
    #11170574 - 10/02/09 03:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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should i have vent holes?  thanks for the video link




its not just a video link it shows how to make a proper shotgun Fruiting chamber to answer your vent hole question.:thumbup:


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Re: The Shroomery and mushroom cultivation, a newcomers guide. [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #11171467 - 10/02/09 07:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Remember, drill all sides of the container. A lot of people forget to drill the bottom holes. They're required to bring moisture up into the container from the wet perlite.




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