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The Majestic 12
    #928311 - 10/03/02 01:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well Im not sure if this is the right forum for this, although I've seen stuff like this in here before, this is a copy and paste of an article I found on the web about the MJ-12. Believing it or not is up to you. Im just posting it cause it is rather amusing and interesting as well.


The Grand Conspiracy: MJ-12 and government cover-ups for 50 years.



(A famous person) requested that the following file be published on (a Computer Bulletin Board). The information contained in this file has not been verified by (CBB), nor do the opinions expressed herein necessarily reflect those of the Administrator or other (CBB) staff members. We can state, however, that (famous person) is who he says he is, and has numerous contacts in sensitive positions that could conceivably allow him access to information of this type.

STATEMENT RELEASED BY (Famous Person) December 29, 1987

Editor's note: Brief credentials of the famous person who supposedly filed this report were given but will be withheld pending verification by UFO REPORT. According to the report, he became interested in the subject of UFOs (in 1986 - Ed.) after talking with United States Air Force personnel who had witnessed a UFO landing at Bentwaters AFB, near London, England, and three small aliens walking up to the Wing Commander.

NOTE TO THE PRESS:

The government of the United States continues to rely on your personal and professional gullibility to suppress the information contained herein. Your cooperation over the past 40 years has exceeded our wildest expectations and we salute you.

"The sun does not revolve around the Earth."

"The United States government has been in business with little gray extraterrestrials for about 20 years."

The first truth stated here got Giordano Bruno burned at the stake in AD 1600 for daring to propose that it was real. The second truth has gotten far more people killed trying to state it publicly than will ever be known.

But the truth must be told. The fact that the Earth revolves around the sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over 200 years. It eventually caused a major upheaval in the church, government and thought; a realignment of social and traditional values. That was in the 1800s.

Now, about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the government has been hiding from us for over 40 years. Unfortunately the "horrible truth" is far more horrible than the government ever imagined.

In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the aliens, and here is how it happened. But before I begin, I'd like to offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had the best of intentions.

Germany may have recovered a flying saucer as early as 1939. General James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to inspect a flying saucer that had crashed there in Spitzbergen.

The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons: They were indeed ugly little creatures, shaped like praying mantises and who were more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years. Of the original group who were the first to learn the "horrible truth", several committed suicide, the most prominent of whom was General James V. Forestall, who jumped to his death from a 16th story hospital window. General Forrestal's records are sealed to this day.

President Truman quickly put a lid on the secret and turned the screws so tight that the general public still thinks that flying saucers are a joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them. In 1947, President Truman established a group of 12 of the top military scientific personnel of their time. They were known as MJ-12. Although the group exists today, none of the original members are alive. The last to die was Gordon Gray, former Secretary of the Army, in 1984. As each member passed away, the group itself appointed a new member to fill the vacant position. There is some speculation that the group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several more members.

There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940s, one in Roswell, New Mexico; one in Aztec, New Mexico, and one near Laredo, Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border.

Consider, if you will, the position of the United States government at that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most powerful nation on Earth, having recently produced the atomic bomb, an achievement so stupendous it would take Russia four years to catch up, and only then with the help of traitors to democracy. They had built a jet aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. They had built jet bombers with intercontinental range that could carry weapons of enormous destruction. The postwar era and the future seemed bright.

Now imagine what it was like for those same leaders, all of whom had witnessed the panic of Orson Wells' radio broadcast, "The War of the Worlds," in 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a realistically presented invasion of Earth by beings from another planet. Imagine their horror as they actually viewed the dead bodies of these frightening-looking creatures with enormous eyes, reptilian skin and claw-like fingers. Imagine their shock as they attempted to determine how these strange "saucers" were powered and could discover no part even remotely similar to components they were familiar with; no cylinders or pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines or hydraulic actuators. It is only when you fully understand the overwhelming helplessness the government was faced with in the late '40s that you can comprehend their perceived need for a total, thorough and sweeping cover-up, to include the use of "deadly force."

The cover-up was so successful that as late as 1985, a senior scientist with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, Dr. Al Hibbs, would look at a video tape of an enormous flying saucer and state for the record, "I'm not going to assign anything to that (UFO) phenomena without a lot more data." Dr. Hibbs was looking at the naked emperor and saying, "He certainly looks naked, but that doesn't prove he's naked."

In July of 1952, a panicked government watched helplessly as squadrons of flying saucers flew over Washington, DC, and buzzed the White House, the Capitol Building, and the Pentagon. It took all the imagination and intimidation the government could muster to force that incident out of the memory of the public.

Thousands of sightings occurred during the Korean War and several more saucers were retrieved by the Air Force. Some were stored at Wright Patterson Air Force Base; some were stored at Air Force bases near the locations of the crash sites.

One saucer was so enormous and the logistics problems in transporting it so great that it was buried at the crash site and remains there today. The stories are legendary on transporting crashed saucers over long distances, moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, slashing through forests, blocking major highways, and sometimes driving two or three lo-boys in tandem with an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in diameter.

On April 30, 1964, the first communication between these aliens and the U.S. Government took place at Holloman Air Force base in New Mexico. Three saucers landed at a pre-arranged area and a meeting was held between the aliens and intelligence officers of the U.S. Government.

During the period between 1969 to 1971, MJ-12, representing the U.S. Government, made a deal with these creatures, called EBEs (Extraterrestrial Biological Entities, named by Detley Bronk, original MJ-12 member and 6th President of Johns Hopkins University). The "deal" was that in exchange for "technology" that they would provide us, we agreed to "ignore" the abductions that were going on and suppress information on the cattle mutilations. The EBEs assured MJ-12 that the abductions (usually lasting about two hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of developing civilizations. In fact, the purposes for the abductions turned out to be: 1) The insertion of a 3mm spherical object through the nasal cavity of the abductee into the brain. The device is used for the biological monitoring, tracking and control of the abductee.

2) Implementation of posthypnotic suggestion to carry out a specific activity during the specific time period, the actuation of which will occur within the next two to five years.

3) Termination of some people so that they could function as living sources for biological material and substances.

4) Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the continuation of their activity.

5) Effect genetic engineering experiments.

6) Impregnation of human females and early termination of pregnancies to secure the crossbred infants.

The U.S. Government was not initially aware of the far-reaching consequences of their "deal." They were led to believe that the abductions were essentially benign and since they figured the abductions would go on anyway whether they agreed or not, they merely insisted that a current list of abductees be submitted, on a periodic basis, to MJ-12 and the National Security Council. Does this sound incredible? An actual list of abductees sent to the National Security Council? Read on, because I have news for you!

The EBEs have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system is atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were involved in some type of accident or nuclear war, or possibly on the backside of an evolutionary curve. In order to sustain themselves they use an enzyme or hormonal secretion obtained from the tissue that they extract from humans and animals. (Note: Cows and humans are genetically similar. In the event of a national disaster, humans can use cow's blood).

The secretions obtained are then mixed with hydrogen peroxide and applied on the skin by spreading or dipping parts of their bodies in the solution. The body absorbs the solution, then excretes the waste back through the skin. The cattle mutilations that were prevalent throughout the period from 1973 to 1983 and publicly noted through newspaper and magazine stories, and included a documentary produced by Linda Howe for the Denver CBS affiliate KMGH-TV, were for the collection of these tissues by the aliens.

The mutilations included genitals taken, rectums cored out to the colon, eyes, tongue and throat all surgically removed with extreme precision. In some cases the incisions were made by cutting between the cells, a process we are not yet capable of performing in the field. In many of the mutilations there was no blood found at all in the carcass, yet there was no vascular collapse of the internal organs.

This has also been noted in human mutilations, one of the first of which was Sgt. Jonathan P. Louette at the White Sands Missile Test Range in 1956, who was found three days after an Air Force Major had witnessed his abduction by a "disk-shaped" object at 0300 while on a search for missile debris downrange. His genitals had been removed, rectum cored out in a surgically precise "plug" up to the colon, eyes removed and all blood removed with, again, no vascular collapse. From some of the evidence it is apparent that this surgery is accomplished, in most cases, while the victim_animal or human_is still alive.

Body parts are taken to various underground laboratories, one of which is known to be near Dulce, New Mexico. This jointly occupied (CIA-Alien) facility has been described as enormous, with huge tiled walls that "go on forever." Witnesses have reported huge vats filled with amber liquid with parts of human bodies being stirred inside.

After the initial agreement, Groom Lake, one of this nation's most secret test centers, was closed for a period of about one year, sometime between about 1972 and 1974, and a huge underground facility was constructed for, and with the help of the EBEs. The "bargained for" technology was set in place but could only be operated by the EBEs themselves. Needless to say, the advanced technology could not be used against the EBEs themselves, even if needed.

During the period between 1979 and 1983, it became increasingly obvious to MJ-12 that things were not going as planned. It became known that many more people (in the thousands) were being abducted than were listed on the official abduction lists. In addition, it became obvious that some (not all) of the nation's missing children had been used for secretions and other parts required by the aliens.

In 1979 there was an altercation of sorts at the Dulce Laboratory. A special armed forces unit was called in to try to free a number of our people trapped in the facility, who had become aware of what was really going on. According to one source, 66 of the soldiers were killed and our people were not freed.

By 1984, MJ-12 must have been in stark terror at the mistake they had made in dealing with the EBEs. They had subtly promoted "Close Encounters Of The Third Kind" and "ET" to get the public used to "odd looking" aliens who were compassionate, benevolent and very much our "space brothers." MJ-12 "sold" the EBEs to the public and were then faced with the fact that quite the opposite was true.

In addition, a plan was formulated in 1968 to make the public aware of the existence of aliens on Earth over the next 20 years, to be culminated with several documentaries to be released during 1985-1987 period of time. These documentaries would explain the history and intentions of EBEs. The discovery of the "Grand Deception" put the entire plans, hopes and dreams of MJ-12 into utter confusion and panic.

Meeting at the "Country Club," a remote lodge with private golf course, comfortable sleeping and working quarters, and its own private airstrip built by and exclusively for the members of MJ-12, a factional fight developed over what to do next.

Some members of MJ-12 wanted to confess the whole scheme and shambles it had become to the public beg their forgiveness and ask for their support. The other members (majority) of MJ-12 argued that there was no way they could do that; the situation was untenable and there was no point in exciting the public with the "horrible truth", and that the best plan was to continue the development of a weapon that could be used against the EBEs under the guise of "SDI", the Strategic Defense Initiative, which had nothing whatsoever to do with a defense against incoming Russian nuclear missiles. As these words are being written, Dr. Edward Teller, father of the H-Bomb, is personally in the test tunnels of the Nevada Test Site, driving his workers and associates "like a man possessed."

And well he should, for Dr. Teller is a member of MJ-12 along with Dr. Kissinger, Admiral Bobby Inman, and possibly Admiral Poindexter, to name but a few of the current members of MJ-12.

Before the "Grand Deception" was discovered, and according to a meticulous plan of metered release of information to the public, several documentaries and videotapes were made. William Moore, a Burbank, California UFO researcher who wrote "The Roswell Incident", a book published in 1980 that detailed the crash, recovery and subsequent cover-up of a UFO with four alien bodies, has a video tape of two newsmen interviewing a military officer associated with MJ-12. This military officer answers questions relating to the history of MJ-12 and the cover-up, the recovery of a number of flying saucers and the existence of a live alien (one of three living aliens captured and designated EBE-1; EBE-2, and EBE-3, being held in a facility designated as YY-II at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The only other facility of this type, which is electromagnetically secure, is at Edwards Air Force Base in Mojave, California.

In addition to those mentioned above, the officer named Harold Brown, Richard Helms, Gen. Vernon Walters, JPL's Dr. Lew Allen and Dr. Theodore von Karman as members of MJ-12.

The officer also relates the fact that the EBEs claim to have created Jesus Christ. The EBEs have a type of recording device that has recorded all of Earth's history and can display it in the form of a hologram. This hologram can be filmed but because of the way holograms work, does not come out very clear on movie film or videotape. The crucifixion of Christ on the Mount of Olives* has allegedly been put on film to show the public. The EBEs claim to have created Christ, which, in the view of the "Grand Deception", could be an effort to disrupt traditional values for undetermined reasons.

*Editor's note: Jesus was NOT crucified on the Mount of Olives. He was crucified at Golgotha, the Mount of Skulls. Matt xxvii 33. (Heb. Gulgoleth - a place of a skull) or He [or His double, Didymus] was crucified in a private garden belonging to a person we know as Joseph of Arimethea.

Another videotape allegedly in existence is an interview with an EBE. Since EBE's communicate telepathically, an Air Force Colonel serves as an interpreter. * Just before the recent stock market correction in October of 1987, several newsmen, including Bill Moore, had been invited to Washington, DC to personally film the EBE in a similar type interview and distribute the film to the public. Apparently because of the correction in the market, it was felt the timing was not propitious. In any case, it certainly seems like an odd method to inform the public of extraterrestrials, but it would be in keeping with the actions of a panicked organization that at this point in time doesn't know which way to turn.

*Editor's note: If EBEs can communicate telepathically, why is a medium required to pass the information along to others present? Why not communicate with everyone at the same time?

Moore is in possession of more Aquarius documents, a few pages of which leaked out several years ago and detailed the super secret NSA project which had been denied them until just recently. In a letter to Senator John Glenn, NSA's Director of Policy, Julia B. Wetzel, wrote, "Apparently there is or was an Air Force project with that name (Aquarius) which dealt with UFOs. Coincidentally, there is also a NSA project by that name." NSA's project Aquarius deals specifically with the "Communications With The Aliens" (the EBEs).

Within the Aquarius program was project "Snowbird," a plan to test fly a recovered alien aircraft at Groom Lake, Nevada. This project continues today at that location. In the words of an individual who works at Groom Lake, "Our people are much better at taking things apart than they are at putting them back together."

Moore, who claims he has a contact with MJ-12, feels that they have been stringing him along, slipping him documents and providing him leads, promising to go public with some of the information on extraterrestrials by the end of 1987.

Certain of Moore's statements lead one to believe that Moore himself may be a government agent working for MJ-12, not to be strung along, but to string along ever hopeful UFOlogists that the truth is just around the corner.

Consider:

1) Moore states emphatically that he is not a government agent, although when Lee Graham, a southern California based UFOlogist, was investigated by DIS (Defense Investigative Service) for possession of classified documents from Moore, Moore himself was not.

2) Moore states emphatically that the cattle mutilations of 1973-1983 were a hoax by Linda Howe (producer of "A Strange Harvest") to create publicity for herself. He cites the book, "Mute Evidence" as the bottom line of the hoax. "Mute Evidence" was a government sponsored book to explain the mutilations in conventional terms.

3) Moore states that the USAF Academy physics book, "Introductory Space Science," vol. II, chapter 13, entitled, "Unidentified Flying Objects," which describes four of the most commonly seen aliens (one of which is the EBE) was written by Lt. Col. Edward R. Therkleson and Major Donald B. Carpenter, Air Force personnel who did not know what they were talking about and were only citing "Crackpot" references. Moore states that the book was withdrawn to excise the chapter.

If the government felt they were being forced to acknowledge the existence of aliens on Earth because of the overwhelming evidence such as the October and November sightings in Wytheville, Virginia, and recently released books such as "Night Siege," and taking into consideration the "Grand Deception" and obvious hostile intentions of the EBEs, it might be expedient for MJ-12 to admit the EBEs but conceal the information on the mutilations and abductions. If MJ-12 and Moore were in some kind of agreement, then it would be beneficial to Moore to toe the party line. For example, MJ-12 would say, "Here are some more genuine documents, but remember, no talking about the mutilations or abductions." This would be beneficial to Moore, as it would supply the evidence to support his theory that ETs exist but deny the truths about the ETs. However, if Moore was, indeed, working for MJ-12, he would follow the party line anyway, admitting the ETs, but pooh-poohing the mutilations and abductions. If working alone, Moore might not even be aware of the "Grand Deception."

Time will tell. It is possible that Moore will go ahead and release the video interview with the military officer around the first of the year as he promised. From MJ-12s point of view, the public would be exposed to the information without really having to believe it because Moore is essentially not as credible a source as, say, the President of the United States. After a few months of digestion and discussion, a more credible source could emerge with a statement that, "Yes, the interview was essentially factual."

This scenario would cushion the blow to the public. If, however, Moore does not release the tape by, say, February 1 of 1988, but comes instead with a story similar to, "MJ-12 has informed me that they are definitely planning a release of all information by October, 1988. I have seen the plan and have seen the guarantee that this will happen, so I have decided to withhold the release of my video tape at this time as it may cause some problems with MJ-12s plans", it would, in effect, buy more time for MJ-12 and time is what they desperately need.

Now you ask, "Why haven't I heard about any of this?" Who do you think you would hear it from? (Famous news commentators) just read the news; they don't find it. It's not like (a famous news commentator) would go down to Wytheville, Virginia and dig into why there were four thousand reported sightings in October and November of 1987. Better that (another famous news commentator) or someone else should risk their credibility on this type of story.

No one, but no one, is going to risk their neck on such an outlandish idea, regardless of how many people report sightings of 900-foot objects running them off the road. In the case of the Wytheville sightings, dozens of vans with NASA lettered on the side failed to interest newsmen. Those who asked were informed that NASA was doing a weather survey.

Well, then, you ask, what about our scientists (famous name)? What about (famous novelists)? Wouldn't they have known?

Editor's note: There is here a brief indictment of scientists and novelists who, according to the author of this letter, may or may not be aiding and abetting the cover-up.

If the government won't tell us the truth and the major networks won't even give it serious consideration, then what is the big picture, anyway? Are the EBEs, having done a hundred thousand or more abductions (possibly millions worldwide), built an untold number of secret underground bases (Groom Lake, Nevada; Sunspot; Datil; Roswell; and Pine Town, New Mexico) getting ready to return to wherever they came from? Or, from the obvious preparations, are we to assume that they are getting ready for a big move? Or is the more sinister and most probable situation that the invasion is essentially complete and it is all over but the screaming?

A well-planned invasion of Earth for its resources and benefits would not begin with mass landing of ray gun equipped aliens. A properly planned and executed invasion by a civilization thousands, and probably hundreds of thousands, of years in advance of us would most likely be complete before even a handful of people (12?) realized what was happening. No fuss, no muss.

The best advice I can give you is this: Next time you see a flying saucer and are awed by its obvious display of technology and gorgeous lights of pure color _ RUN LIKE HELL!

(Editor's note: Portions of the previous letter were omitted for legal reasons). A rebuttal is in the report The Great Deception.


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: TackleBerry]
    #928344 - 10/03/02 01:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

NSA's project Aquarius deals specifically with the "Communications With The Aliens"

Heheh....  :grin: 


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: Adamist]
    #928933 - 10/03/02 05:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

My uncle is the deputy director of European operations for the NSA......
oh how I wish I could spend some time "catching up" with the good 'ol boy.... :tongue: 


Edited by dee_N_ae (10/03/02 05:42 PM)


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: TackleBerry]
    #928972 - 10/03/02 05:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Dude!  Like conspeerassies and stuff!  Whoa! How is this related to philosophy or spirituality?  I mean, it's kind of interesting and stuff, but it doesn't seem like it belongs here.  Maybe in OTD?  i don't know :wink: 


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: sammy_jankis]
    #929170 - 10/03/02 07:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, but who cares where it belongs, know what i mean? :wink: 


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: CleverName]
    #929235 - 10/03/02 07:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't a clue what you mean.


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Re: The Majestic 12 (wrong forum?) [Re: TackleBerry]
    #929243 - 10/03/02 07:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)


Yeah...I think you are right, this is the wrong forum....
However, I don't think there is a forum for "Fiction"....


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Re: The Majestic 12 (wrong forum?) [Re: LOPHO.MP]
    #929257 - 10/03/02 07:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

oh, come on, its not hurting you, and its interesting kinda, the post will run its course in a day or so, so just go with it man...you dig?? :smirk: 


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: TackleBerry]
    #929358 - 10/03/02 08:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

shaped like praying mantises and who were more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years

a billion years ahead of us and yet they keep on crashing their ships into our planet....morons.


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: chodamunky]
    #929379 - 10/03/02 08:49 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

like ive stated before, i am an alien, and its true, all true!!!!! :tongue: 


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: TackleBerry]
    #929652 - 10/03/02 10:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think government cover-ups should probably belong in the political discussion.

Interesting read btw.

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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: ]
    #929694 - 10/03/02 10:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It most likely belongs in Spirituality and Philosophy, but I love a good UFO coverup ghost story, so I'll leave it here.


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: superpimp]
    #929839 - 10/03/02 11:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Cool!

And thanks! :smile:


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: ]
    #929927 - 10/04/02 12:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No problem, that's why they pay me the big bucks.


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Re: The Majestic 12 [Re: superpimp]
    #933612 - 10/05/02 02:03 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

There are no gray little big headed creatures crashing there planes, in to our earth. It is very VERY rich corperations that have built these (ufo type aliens flying ships) underground for about 60 to 70 years, and what a better way to unit all nations under a New World Order.

We humans have built these vehicles WE are smart enough to do this! No matter how profound the technologys. What is impossible for man is possible with god?? hehe We (all humans) are gods and thats the BIGGER picture! Thats the biggest conspiracy!


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