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 Larrythescaryrex
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 deepest dung? 
#927335 - 10/03/02 04:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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what is the deepest you can have your dung, I read somewhere that over 5 inches could be detremental.
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Depends on who's doing the talking I guess... 
How deep are you planning to go and what are your thoughts on this? I feel that over 5" would be excessive and would probably be somewhat wasteful due to diminishing returns and increased chance for contamination with time. In my experience, the deeper substrate layers help promote more and better subsequent flushes, but I don't worry about getting too many flushes from my trays. I just make new ones.
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it depends on the size of your container and how much colonized substrate your using,the more colonized substrate you use the more dung you can use..just make sure your not using too little. because than it would take longer to colonize thus leaving more of a chance to get contams...hope this helps
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Larrythescaryrex
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My container measures:
13"X18" and is 15" tall.
I am planning on using it as both the casing tray and fruiting chamber as we discussed the other day mickey.
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"larry the scary rex
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invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011
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Ok, since it's 15" tall, I would probably go with around 3-4 inches of substrate. This should give plenty of clearance so that you don't have to worry at all about mushrooms hitting the lid.
Edit: Since it's your first time with casing, you might want to consider using the container as a fruiting chamber that holds multiple, smaller trays. This way, all of your eggs are not in one basket. How would you feel if you came home one day and the entire container had a nice green carpet over the surface? Consider that..
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Edited by mickey_rourke (10/03/02 04:54 AM)
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how much myc do you plan on using?
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I think a 2" casing layer is approperiate....
If I use polyfilled holes, at what height would you suggest?
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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011
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mickey_rourke
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I would recommend multiple trays in the container as described in the edit I made to my previous post.. 
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Larrythescaryrex
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I have 5 pints of rye to use.
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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011
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Standard bulk to spawn ratio is 10:1.
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bulk substrates can be laid out up to about 16 inches in depth. After that they start to develop anaerobic areas, killing mycelium and promoting bacteria.
The deeper the bed, the deeper the casing, up to about 2 inches deep.
The deeper the bed, the higher the yield potential, but the lower the biological efficiency of the substrate.
In other words, what is your limiting factor? If your limiting factor is surface area (you only have one terrerium and don't want a bigger one) then deeper is better. If your limiting factor is substrate (you don't have a lot dung, or it is expensive to aquire) then you want to get as much yield out of each unit of substrate as possible, for this I'd recomend about 5-6 inches deep.
IME, a bare minimum for a bulk substrate is 3 inches. I personally wouldn't make one that wasn't at least 4 inches deep. Anything over 10 inches deep is overkill, in my opinion. 6 inch depth with 2 inch casings became my standard after trying most variations. Then again, perhaps that was because my trays were 8 inches deep 
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Re: deepest dung? [Re: mycofile]
#928898 - 10/03/02 05:13 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Special thanks to mickey and microfile. I love you guys.
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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011
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3" to 6" is all good.
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I use very shallow depths (1 - 1.5") all the time in small pans with great results.
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mycofile
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Mickey, do you really mean 1" layer of dung and that's it?
Not saying that it wouldn't yield, I'm sure it would. I just don't think the yield or fruit size would compare to even a 3" or 4" layer.
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Reply to shallow depths ..............Thanx for adding this Ego was scared  , Ego did his first run in 13x9x3.5 container with sub thikness of 2.5 inches, plan on 1/2 to 3/4 inch case . Good to know experinced have used in shallow subs also . 
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