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mailed substance problem
    #9245886 - 11/14/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i posted this in anonymous, might get a few more replies here:

okay so 2 days ago i mailed a close friend some non-smelling substance wrapped in some random papers in an envelope. i put a fake name for him, and i put a fake name for the return address. also i put a nearby apartment as the return address not my own. i realize now that i used a 37cent stamp...how fucked am i?

will it still go through? im guessing itll go to the return address postage due, right?

im paranoid that somehow (dont know how) they can fingerprint or deduce (somehow) from the papers I used to pad the envelope a little, who i am, and im not sure what to do at this point

should i go to the apartment which i put as the return address and say 'hey i realized i fucked up hard and put the wrong return address on an envelope i sent and didnt put enough postage on it, if such and such envelope comes in your mail, can you give it to me?'

this seems like a risk 'cause i don't know who lives there and i'm thinking what if they opened the envelope and saw theres the substance there (obviously an illegal drug, they won't think its anthrax) and then i come by and BAM theyve nabbed my ass.

advise please, thanks.

and yes, i fully realize the idiocy of my actions. i ripped my own balls off, dont worry.

the papers in the envelope arent personally identifiable and my prints arent on the record anywhere but they have my country of origin on there and its possible that im the only one from that country within a 10 mile radius...but i doubt anyone knows where im from. i guess im being paranoid.

what are the chances that the envelope will go through? and what are the chances the person who receives it will open it AND rat me out to cops if he/she finds some shit in there?

im not sure how nice people are in general...what are the chances that the person will just decide to stick another stamp on it and mail it out for good karma?

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9246043 - 11/14/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

well few things you need to do (my 2cents anyways).

First if you just sent it, and the return is in your same town its probably going to be there next day.  You should find out who lives at the fake address.. even if its just "hey is bob here? no? oh sorry wrong address".  This will show you what kind of people live there.. kids? adults? where they nice?  If they are nice enough you can later have a friend come by and pick up the letter.

Since your doing something illegal anyways you might as well stake out the address its being delivered to.  And if there is a way you can always just swing by and pick up your package after the carrier has droped it off at the house. (If its in a pick-upable place).

Might be able to call the postal service and tell them the mistake.. and see if they can aquire the package and hold it.. or something.

Or you can cut your losses and forget about it?


PS, use gloves, and dont let anyone handle your package that you dont trust.  I dont trust the gummamint, so I cant trust their postal service.

Edited by Instinctz (11/14/08 08:05 PM)

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Instinctz]
    #9246124 - 11/14/08 08:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

thanks.

i think i will head there tomorrow and ask if random guy is there to see who (if anyone) lives there. if there is someone there ill send someone to pick it up for money :tongue:

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9246154 - 11/14/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I'll laugh if you say "Is Scott home?" and they say "Hang on. Scott! Somebody's here to see you!".


Just deny it lol.


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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9246169 - 11/14/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

ill ask if shananananaynay is home or some shit. a real strange name.

and if shananananaynay comes out ill be all..'wrong shananananaynay'

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9249515 - 11/15/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Read other threads on the same subject. It's been covered before/


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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Stonehenge]
    #9249936 - 11/15/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Why wouldn't they open an envelope they get with them as the sender?  I would.


IMO, leave it alone.  If they get it theyll probably open it.

The only way this could help you is if they don't open it and wait for you to come get it, or if they plan to give it to the USPS again.

I wouldn't, so decide how likely it is someone would do that.

What do you have to loose?  Years in jail.  Almost certainly a felony conviction.



Do nothing, and if they come by askin gquestions, highly unlikely, say nothing.  nothing means nothing.  Ask for an attorney imediatly and say you have nothing to say.

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: johnm214]
    #9250341 - 11/15/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Is the name on the return address the actual person that lives there? If it is, then DEFINATELY don't risk picking it up, it just aint worth it. If not, you can say you fucked up and put their address, but it is still a risk. Your call.

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9254022 - 11/16/08 09:20 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with john.

Do not go reclaim the package.


The risk now is your recipient who wanted to receive the goods.

The person who receives packages will always bear the most risk in terms of safety.


You should inform the other person on the other end what happened and have them take the necessary precautions to protect themselves from one of the alphabet agencies.

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #9254492 - 11/16/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

thank you all for your advice.

my "sendee" received my package pretty much 2 days after i sent it so im pretty sure we're both in the clear.

never again will i do something this stupid.

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9254578 - 11/16/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Putting your name and correct address on the return addy is not enough to convict you or even to get a warrant, IMO. However, if it was detected, it would give them a place to start looking and you might not want all that attention. First class mail can not be opened without a search warrant. Send it first class or priority to be safe. Parcel post they can open without a warrant.


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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Stonehenge]
    #9254780 - 11/16/08 12:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

From his other thread:

thank you guys so much.

the envelope arrived safely and my friend is enjoying himself.

he did not have to pay any postage even though it is indeed a 37c stamp.

never, ever, ever, never, ever, ever again will this happen.

thanks #9 especially 'cause i was tripping balls and panicking and you calmed me down dude :thumbup:

Edited by Moodion (11/16/08 12:56 PM)

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Moodion]
    #9258705 - 11/17/08 07:01 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I get things mailed to me under a different name all the time.  I don't think that would be suspicious, who's to say that it wasn't your friends package that he wanted mailed to your house while he was out of town?

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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: libertaire]
    #9260302 - 11/17/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I get things mailed to me under a different name all the time.  I don't think that would be suspicious, who's to say that it wasn't your friends package that he wanted mailed to your house while he was out of town?




That will work sometimes. All too often the letter carrier is an asshole who will send stuff back if it isn't going to a name he recognizes. I'd say that it will work most of the time but not all the time. You can always send it to "John Brown or current occupant" It's better to send to the right name but this may work too.


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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: Stonehenge]
    #9264695 - 11/18/08 06:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

find a gift store in the same zip code and use it as the sender adress. Everything else keep it correct.


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Re: mailed substance problem [Re: ray40cal]
    #9265444 - 11/18/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Ray, thats fine if you do not want the package back in case it's returned.


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