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bnutz
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: seven]
#9264950 - 11/18/08 08:56 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck it i'll have to wait for my wbs to do it again.
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LightShedder
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
#9265053 - 11/18/08 09:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are many possibilities as to why you got those results. It has happened to me before too. All that can be said is that yes, MS is gambling and if you do a big bulk substrate and don't even know if you're dealing with a good fruiting strain then you can say MS isn't worth it. I personally agree. If you are using guaranteed monocultures (not just clone but monocultures) then you can rule out genetics if something like this happens and start looking at FEA, humidity, temperature, co2 and other environmental factors.
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seven
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: LightShedder]
#9265087 - 11/18/08 09:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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monoculture = isolated substrain = no variation or chance of different results, minus growth conditions. CONSISTANCY
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LateForTheFuture
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
#9265097 - 11/18/08 09:45 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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bnutz said: WELL I HAD TO TEAR IT APART AND IT WASNT THAT WET.LIKE TEARING APART A PF CAKE.
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seven
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: LateForTheFuture]
#9265133 - 11/18/08 09:57 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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bnutz said: WELL I HAD TO TEAR IT APART AND IT WASNT THAT WET.LIKE TEARING APART A PF CAKE.
im sorry but THATS FUCKIN FUNNY
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: seven]
#9265155 - 11/18/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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seven said:
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LateForTheFuture said:
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bnutz said: WELL I HAD TO TEAR IT APART AND IT WASNT THAT WET.LIKE TEARING APART A PF CAKE.
im sorry but THATS FUCKIN FUNNY
VERY FUNNY +5 FOR YOU
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: LateForTheFuture]
#9265159 - 11/18/08 10:05 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^lol
yea, the more ms jars you use in one bulk sub the less consistency youll see. its way better to use 3 quart jars than 12 1/2 pt jars. its also possible you messed up other things. try again. tons of people have great results with bulk ms grows
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Shr00mZ
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: boomer q]
#9265275 - 11/18/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just harvested a 11 inch PE that was bigger around then a half dollar all the way to the cap. That was from a single grain bag but multispore.
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djmako7
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: r311ik]
#9265299 - 11/18/08 10:43 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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done heat your fruiting chamber period unless it freakin cold in your house. 72-76 degrees is perfect any higher could slow growth. Just look at RR for example he doesnt use heat for nothing not even incubation.
Lets see a pic, if your shrooms are very thin and short it could be lack of fae.
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tex1
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: Shr00mZ]
#9265312 - 11/18/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mutlispore BRF spawned to poo
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seven
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: tex1]
#9265453 - 11/18/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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tex1 said: Mutlispore BRF spawned to poo
the way your fruits were all around the edges is a sign :lack of humidity\ moisture.
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boomer q
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: Shr00mZ]
#9266169 - 11/18/08 02:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shr00mZ said: I just harvested a 11 inch PE that was bigger around then a half dollar all the way to the cap. That was from a single grain bag but multispore.
yea, bags are the way to go ive got some huge APEs comming up from the second flush on some poo/coir bags, PEs and bags go great together
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bnutz
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: boomer q]
#9266391 - 11/18/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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is having the caps lock on mess something up y is that funny?
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: veda_sticks]
#9266471 - 11/18/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: Yes, never directly heat a fruiting chamber.
Other than hot water, what are some other good methods of heating a FC?
Do heating pads work OK with large plastic bins?
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bnutz
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#9266489 - 11/18/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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not in my experience with them they dry out the substrate where you put them under the fc.directly above the pad.
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seven
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
#9266514 - 11/18/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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just heat the room that the fc is in. if you are comfortable in the room then the mycelium will be fine. fruit in "room temp" range -70-77 is fine in my openion.
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DoidleTheDigger
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: bnutz]
#9266528 - 11/18/08 03:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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quick not to all the heaters out there... mycelium growth of cubensis is fastest at 76 deg...but peak alkaloid production occurs at around 70 deg.
just a tidbit i thought id add
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doze
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: DoidleTheDigger]
#9266579 - 11/18/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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pf cake spawned to c-poo/ vermiculite w/ a little peat moss to help fluff it up.
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RJ Tubs 202
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: seven]
#9271159 - 11/19/08 07:37 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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seven said: just heat the room that the fc is in. if you are comfortable in the room then the mycelium will be fine. fruit in "room temp" range -70-77 is fine in my openion.
I agree. Heating the room where the FC is located is ideal. But how about situations where this is not possible? How about for my friend Maynard in Northern Michigan who has his FC out in the hay barn?
A hot water reservoir works fine, but does anyone have any other groovy methods?
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blood4blood
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Re: multispore on bulk substrate just isnt worth it [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#9271193 - 11/19/08 07:55 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive had ALOT of good luck with MS innoculations and so have alot of other people on this site. i think it was covered pretty well why you had the results you did.
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