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igwna
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How do you analyze a poet?
#9262943 - 11/17/08 09:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have to write a paper.. I have to analyze a poet..
When I got the assignment I was thinking yeah sure this'll be easy as pie. But now that I'm sitting here trying to start it I'm wondering what the hell am I supposed to write?
I could analyze a poem.. but an entire poet? Any ideas? I'm baffled and quite frustrated.
I really just need direction here. Thanks in advance.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9262958 - 11/17/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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its best to analyze poets when you are on opiates, you should take some opiates
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: aDoS]
#9262970 - 11/17/08 09:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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you have to analyze a poet instead of a poem? who's the poet? get a bunch of his/her poems and analyze them first!
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igwna
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: SampaJasli]
#9262979 - 11/17/08 09:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm that seems like a good place to start.
I chose Robert Frost.. cause I love his stuff.. but sitting here trying to figure out to analyze HIM and not his POEMS, realizing it was a strange request.. Maybe I should just review some of his poems and call it a paper?
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Edited by igwna (11/17/08 09:25 PM)
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9262985 - 11/17/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate doing that shit all together. Especially when you get a bad grade when it's your own damn opinion.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: aDoS]
#9262987 - 11/17/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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aDoS said: its best to analyze poets when you are on opiates, you should take some opiates
Did you just discover opiates or something?
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263000 - 11/17/08 09:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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no I discovered opiates 6-7 years ago
opiates makes poetry better you should take some
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: aDoS]
#9263019 - 11/17/08 09:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright.. I'll get right on that!
and if anyone else has any ideas.. feel free to share. I'm sorta stuck.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: aDoS]
#9263026 - 11/17/08 09:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I smoked an opium spliff and watched 30 Days of Night once. It was fucked up.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263036 - 11/17/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Analyze things like his childhood (general upbringing/parents), teens, later life, any stylistic devices he uses often, the tone/mood of his works which should relate back to his childhood. As you look into these things you'll probably dig up interesting tidbits and you'll be able to weave a complex web of "analytical bullshit" haha. Some of those topics can actually get very info-heavy, so just remember to relate it back to his 'unique writing style' and possibly the genre of poetry he writes.
Anyways, hope this helps!
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263051 - 11/17/08 09:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you have to stay with Robert Frost because Sylvia Plath is a wicked easy one to analyze!
I wrote 2 papers on her in high school. She had a messed up childhood. Tried to kill herself multiple time. Got electron shock therepy and other fun stuff... Ultimately she wrote a lot about dark depression and such and ended up killing herself. Her poetry kind of mirrored her life.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: junkyardgod]
#9263057 - 11/17/08 09:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thanks, I'll try some of those techniques aswell as reviewing one or two of his smaller works. That should give me a good portion of the body of my paper
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: Lndrydusting]
#9263066 - 11/17/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can do whoever I like.
I sorta want to stick with frost simply because I've analyzed a few of his poems for this teacher and i kinda wanna.. idk, stick with it i guess.
I'm a stubborn bastard.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263093 - 11/17/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah lots of good ideas im sure you'll be able to write a decent paper
hmm i think ill have to check out sylvia plath out now and ive been meaning to check out opiates as well :P
i can wait until spring
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263097 - 11/17/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sounds like an assignment i could definitly get into. I would probably choose Saul Williams, who happens to be this poet/musican/actor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Williams
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: thePatient]
#9263108 - 11/17/08 09:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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saul williams is a beast spoken word is a pretty awesome genre check out this number i found on youtube by marty mcconnell on def poetry jam:
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: thePatient]
#9263113 - 11/17/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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thePatient said: That sounds like an assignment i could definitly get into. I would probably choose Saul Williams, who happens to be this poet/musican/actor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Williams
Mm I am jealous of you. It is rather difficult for me to get into what I'm writing unless I start it well... not stumped
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263177 - 11/17/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm just going to give this whole thing a HUGE stab in the dark, not entirely SURE what I'm supposed to be doing...
I'll throw it up here when I complete it, but I promise it will be garbage.
I can't very well put EVERY poem into it while reviewing them (i've decided to just review a line here and there from random poems and a couple full poems [short ones])
but as I said I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm REALLY just bullshitting it.
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destructo_low said: I smoked an opium spliff and watched 30 Days of Night once. It was fucked up.
opium spliff?
sounds like the biggest waste of an expensive substance ever.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9263205 - 11/17/08 10:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a couple facts about RF to help you get started:
-He wrote every poem in the first person -People in his family (including himself) had bouts of mental illness (his sister was committed young into a mental instiution where she died) -The Atlantic Monthly originally rejected a bunch of his poems and later (after he became known) when they asked him to submit a few he gave them the same ones they had earlier rejected -Frost once said" I would have it written on my grave stone:I had a lover's quarrel with the world -His daughter irma was also commited to a mental institution -He lived an farmed in NH before his poetry career took off but he was not originally from NH -His work is usually associated with "life and landscapes" -His poetry style was that of traditional verse forms and metrics (rhymes and such)
Got all that from a few websites off a google search... Hope this helps!
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: Lndrydusting]
#9263297 - 11/17/08 10:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mmm, thanks doll.
What I enjoy most is that (it seems to me at least) that he is just one of those REAL kind of people.
The people who enjoy living in the present, not cautiously examining what to do next and not one who dwells on the past (any more than one should).
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9275281 - 11/19/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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so how did it go sky?
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9275351 - 11/19/08 10:08 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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skcorrelyt said: I have to write a paper.. I have to analyze a poet..
When I got the assignment I was thinking yeah sure this'll be easy as pie. But now that I'm sitting here trying to start it I'm wondering what the hell am I supposed to write?
I could analyze a poem.. but an entire poet? Any ideas? I'm baffled and quite frustrated.
I really just need direction here. Thanks in advance.
honestly, that assignment sounds pretty foolish. i can see why you'd have trouble. poetry isn't meant to be "analyzed" it's meant to be experienced.
its almost like taking a beautiful painting, ignoring it's intrinsic beauty, to write a paper about what wood the frame is, and what kind of paint the artist used. knowwaddamean?
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: Shins]
#9275423 - 11/19/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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SampaJasli said: so how did it go sky?
Well, I finished the paper at about 6 pages and handed it in.. I didn't get it back yet seeing as I only have class every tuesday and thursday.. so I might get it back tomorrow. I'll let you know when I get it
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skcorrelyt said: I have to write a paper.. I have to analyze a poet..
When I got the assignment I was thinking yeah sure this'll be easy as pie. But now that I'm sitting here trying to start it I'm wondering what the hell am I supposed to write?
I could analyze a poem.. but an entire poet? Any ideas? I'm baffled and quite frustrated.
I really just need direction here. Thanks in advance.
honestly, that assignment sounds pretty foolish. i can see why you'd have trouble. poetry isn't meant to be "analyzed" it's meant to be experienced.
its almost like taking a beautiful painting, ignoring it's intrinsic beauty, to write a paper about what wood the frame is, and what kind of paint the artist used. knowwaddamean?
And yes, I can agree with this. My teacher isn't very good at explaining what he wants.. each paper he gets back he says "Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough.." and explains what he wanted.
So we'll see what happens.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: igwna]
#9275520 - 11/19/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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shit son, 6 pages! Im impressed.
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Re: How do you analyze a poet? [Re: SampaJasli]
#9275614 - 11/19/08 10:39 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks! it was double spaced though. so thats cheating a little.
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