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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9262686 - 11/17/08 08:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Money should never be a reason to do something.






you're right... I'm picking up a welfare application tomorrow

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9262895 - 11/17/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I was show a pay scale i suppose with differnt start contracts and the one iw as going with was the one that paid for school but lower bonus. Then there sone that dont pay for school and has high signing bonus



After doing a little reading I'm starting to think this is bullshit.  Your signing bonus should be 11K regardless of whether you are getting GI bill/kicker benefits.  Talk to another recruiter and see what he says.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: thedefone]
    #9262920 - 11/17/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

defone, I don't know if you did any time or not, but you're right.  Sounds like OP either misunderstood what the recruiter was saying or the recruiter is full of it.  Look for another

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9265825 - 11/18/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I could be wrong but i was offered a 10k signing bonus. I'll have to take a closer look and figure the other stuff out but that was with my school being paid for i believe and a 4yr contract.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9265833 - 11/18/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

are you in college now?  are they talkin about paying for that?  or paying for you to go to college

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9265883 - 11/18/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Im not in college now no, they saying if i choose to take class's they will.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9265921 - 11/18/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Joining the service is pretty tempting these days due to all the money they can throw at you, not to mention how they pay for schooling.

I totally respect anyone that joins the service, its just more respectable when people go into it even in the absence of some lofty bs idealism. At the very least they play that role for those of us that do not desire that stuff :wink:

Support our troops damn hippies :lol: :grin:


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ego Death]
    #9265954 - 11/18/08 01:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

FUCK NO! money is worthless if I have to bring harm to myself/ others to get it, even if I'm not fighting there's no way I'd support that dirty system.
Who would want to fight for imperialism anyway.:nonono:


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #9266001 - 11/18/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I would rather make a living doing something i love, than becoming a killing machine.  And i know not everyone in the military is an soldier fighting and killing, and if not your still aiding killing machines.  I am too by paying my taxes, but i pay my taxes so they don't lock me up.  Its like there forcing me to help kill people.  It makes me sad:sad:


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9266012 - 11/18/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I would rather make a living doing something i love, than becoming a killing machine.  And i know not everyone in the military is an soldier fighting and killing, and if not your still aiding killing machines.  I am too by paying my taxes, but i pay my taxes so they don't lock me up.  Its like there forcing me to help kill people.  It makes me sad:sad:




LOL WHAT

Wow Sooo by me wanting to go EOD(Explosive Ordnance Disposal). I am aiding the "killing machine" by defusing ied's and such that could have hurt/killed a soldier or innocent civilian?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #9266036 - 11/18/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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FUCK NO! money is worthless if I have to bring harm to myself/ others to get it, even if I'm not fighting there's no way I'd support that dirty system.




do you have a job?

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ego Death]
    #9266048 - 11/18/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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You want to sign your life away in the hope of good pay or a violent death in Afghanistan?

I don't think thats a wise decision myself.  If you want money just get a good normal job :confused:

If want to kill people and help perpetuate war then its a great idea.




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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9266073 - 11/18/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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FUCK NO! money is worthless if I have to bring harm to myself/ others to get it, even if I'm not fighting there's no way I'd support that dirty system.




do you have a job?



Yeah I do, and all I'm saying if you want to but into that sort of thing than great. But it is just immoral IMO.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9266085 - 11/18/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah man, your a pawn in someone elses game.  It sounds like you want  to become this technician because of the money.  If you like blowing stuff up it doesn't have to be designed to kill people.  You can work someplace else, and if money is THAT important to ya, than my words do no good.  You just another player in that game...


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9266193 - 11/18/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What the fuck, I can't believe I used to be so faggy when it came to the topic of military. I kinda held the same hippie mentality, probably cause of the psychedelics. I'm thinking about joining the Airforce cause quite frankly, I like adventure. They aren't "on the clock" soldiers 24/7 (unless they're in Iraq, they get time off man, I went to a base in South Dakota where my sister is and they live pretty normal lives.

But it's your right to live like Ghandi if you want.

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9266256 - 11/18/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah man, your a pawn in someone elses game.  It sounds like you want  to become this technician because of the money.  If you like blowing stuff up it doesn't have to be designed to kill people.  You can work someplace else, and if money is THAT important to ya, than my words do no good.  You just another player in that game...




Since when was i blowing up things to kill people? My job would be just the opposite, disarming it so it dont blow up people or blowing it up so people dont die.

Money does play a role in what i want to do, yep.

Im just really stuck here, the school for EOD seems very intense and hard from what iv read. Im just not sure if its my final choice. As infantry as always interested me but it'd be nice to take something out of the Army back state-side like EOD.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9266266 - 11/18/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah man, your a pawn in someone elses game.  It sounds like you want  to become this technician because of the money.  If you like blowing stuff up it doesn't have to be designed to kill people.  You can work someplace else, and if money is THAT important to ya, than my words do no good.  You just another player in that game...



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What the fuck, I can't believe I used to be so faggy when it came to the topic of military. I kinda held the same hippie mentality, probably cause of the psychedelics. I'm thinking about joining the Airforce cause quite frankly, I like adventure. They aren't "on the clock" soldiers 24/7 (unless they're in Iraq, they get time off man, I went to a base in South Dakota where my sister is and they live pretty normal lives.

But it's your right to live like Ghandi if you want.



If you like adventure join the Peace Corps you get to travel and get paid for it too. That way you can still get the thrill of travel and you are helping people in third world countries as opposed to fortifying our influences on other countries through military force.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9266432 - 11/18/08 02:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I assure you the EOD school won't be "too hard" for you.  Those courses are broken down so much it's probably boring.

Military pays for college no matter how many years you sign for.  You are entitled to receive the GI bill.I think you pay 1,200 and in return its worth a 43,000 education.  BUT the GI bill is something you use when you're OUT of the military.  While you're in, you get the luxury of using tuition assistance to pay for books and whatnot.  You're recruiter telling you they will only pay for some of it "because of whatever reason" is a LIE!

And to all the people that think the military is nothing but grunts killing people... do some research.  Most guys in the military will only shoot a rifle for qualification upkeep a few times a year then go back to fixin engines or what have you.

Contribution to the machine??  who cares..  steady paycheck,education,and medical.  Plus, military background looks good on a resume

*Edit*  Think about taking what you can learn from the military too.  You won't be in forever.  That's where the infantry guys go wrong.  Besides leadership skills, what else can you do?  shoot a gun? sweet!

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #9266436 - 11/18/08 02:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Can you get away with smoking a J while in the service?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: mathewww]
    #9266466 - 11/18/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Can you get away with smoking a J while in the service?



Iheats there was a court decision saying they can test you any time because it may hinder your ability to work, and high soldiers would be a national security threat. How about blowing the smoke at the angry enemies and making them chill too?:)


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