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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: thedefone]
    #9262055 - 11/17/08 06:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I really wish I could take pictures of some of the people I see slithering around this fort in VA.  Pretty sure there's a manwoman working in the commissary.  On top of that,  all the "rides sittin on 22's"  makes me sick.  They let anyone in the army

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9262058 - 11/17/08 06:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'm curious as to why anyone would voluntarily want to be a soldier?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9262064 - 11/17/08 06:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Ziplok said:
I've seen all the services and there's just something about the army. 




odd... I've seen just the opposite, maybe it's because of the
personal convictions of the individuals, I never ran around
with a bunch of smack talking losers so I wouldnt know these people

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ego Death]
    #9262077 - 11/17/08 07:00 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Ego Death said:
If you want money just get a good normal job :confused:





more than 10 million people are out of work, they're all
looking for that job at McDonalds right now, there's more than
one reason to join the military and in the opinion of many of
us it's a very respectable thing to do


government will start/fight a war regardless of volunteers,
be glad he's enlisting because it keeps you from being drafted

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9262100 - 11/17/08 07:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'd rather be poor, actually i would rather be dead than be a pawn for someone else's own vested interests


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9262109 - 11/17/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody can draft me.  They can try but it won't work.

Its not respectable to me, its foolish.

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9262117 - 11/17/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Apology to the original poster for kinda hijacking the thread.

When they offer a high sign on bonus for a particular job, chances are it's because it sucks and nobody wants to do it.  Do the 4 year contract for sure.  They might guarantee you school out of basic and therefore making you an E-4 faster with a 6 year contract but the money isn't that much better for an extra 2 years of service.  DO THE GI BILL, they take 100 bucks out of your paycheck a month, but it's worth it in the end.

Just be prepared to take on a lifestyle change and as we all say.  "Hurry up and wait", which pretty much boils down to sit on your ass wishing you weren't in the military :cool:

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9262119 - 11/17/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

if you're drafte you have a few options, blow your foot off or
puncture an eardrum, ROTC (run over to canada) or take your
happy ass to the meps center for processing

death might disqualify you but I wouldnt count on it

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9262146 - 11/17/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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They might guarantee you school out of basic and therefore making you an E-4 faster





recruiter got my asvab scores back, he haded me the book and
said "choose, if we dont have a place we'll make one"

I made a choice, he said "are you sure? we have much better
options for someone of your level of intelligence and skills"

I said yes... they made room

all things are possible, just make sure all the details are
in writing, no verbal agreements, no fucking around

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9262221 - 11/17/08 07:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm curious as to why anyone would voluntarily want to be a soldier?




You have to agree that the whole GIJOE, soldier, warrior, etc. was a fantasy at one point when you were a child..  maybe it just lasts longer for some people.

GIJOE was funded by the government!!

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9262293 - 11/17/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

It was a fantasy because that is what i was told by the television.

Now that im 'awake' or fully 'conscience' of many of the scams being run by late modernism and capitalism, I kind of laugh at the utter insanity of joining the military.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9262320 - 11/17/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Im looking at a 10k signing bonus for 4years as an EOD.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9262323 - 11/17/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Indoctrination, propaganda.

So many people are fucked when they leave the army - PTSD, no routine, bouts of temper,
crime and addiction.

The army will program you to kill but they have fuck all to deprogram you to get back into civilized society.

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9262324 - 11/17/08 07:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Cognitive_Shift said:
I'm curious as to why anyone would voluntarily want to be a soldier?




You have to agree that the whole GIJOE, soldier, warrior, etc. was a fantasy at one point when you were a child..  maybe it just lasts longer for some people.




with each thing you say I have a difficult time believing you've ever been near a base

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9262338 - 11/17/08 07:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Money should never be a reason to do something.

Money is so insignificant in the big scheme of life.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: AJ4U]
    #9262345 - 11/17/08 07:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Whats EOD?

Definately don't go on the front line if you want to live to spend that money.

If its not against you morels to help the war machine then I'd suggest working out what position is the least life threatening.

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9262348 - 11/17/08 07:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Thats nice...

anyways 10k sounds alittle low as a signing bonus for eod?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9262396 - 11/17/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Pris, I'm just tryin' to be a smartass.. 

Cog,  do you not have bills? I wish I had the outlook you do on money and life but tryin to make it out there and stay occupied is kinda hard.

And to be honest, I have no idea why people volunteer to be a soldier.  It has it's raw, gritty perks but fuck sand.


and I just read that some EODs are being offered 40k.  Whether that's with prior service, dive, parachute quals  I don't know.

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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ziplok]
    #9262411 - 11/17/08 07:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Haha seriously fuck sand!

I have bills, but i was born into money (i still work a shitty job)  But I can honestly say more money more problems...


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Ego Death]
    #9262658 - 11/17/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Whats EOD?



Don't bother actually reading the thread or anything.  Just indiscriminately post your opinions.

It sounds to me like OP kind of has his mind made up and is asking for advice from people who are already in.. not random attacks from people who haven't even bothered to read the first post.

:shrug:



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