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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9271331 - 11/19/08 08:41 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
I submit that going beyond a certain threshold, the pain caused by getting drunk far, far surpasses any pleasure gained.

Why then do humans (over)indulge?




Is it Prometheus who gets his liver eaten everyday? Could it be that all alcoholics are living a metaphore? (once you start, the harder it is to no to display Promethean characteristics?)

wiki: "As an advocate for humanity he gains semi-divine status at Athens"


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: Booby]
    #9271463 - 11/19/08 09:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Is it Prometheus who gets his liver eaten everyday?




You are correct sir. Prometheus is the Titan that stole fire from Zeus and gave it back to humanity.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: Nexion]
    #9271474 - 11/19/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I view addiction as both a blessing and a curse. A blessing to have some way to dispell boredom.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9275426 - 11/19/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Those who need to really cover up some pain don't mind an little nausea or headache. In fact it's just another helpful distraction.




Exactly, when I was drinking a lot due to personal problems, the hangover the next day (I'd drink until I passed out, sleeping off what would've probably been a vomit fest otherwise, still waking up buzzed in the morning) would keep me absent-minded until I was drunk again. My brain was so fried from drinking that all I could do was focus on what I was physically doing, and I liked that. People say "smoke weed instead". Sure, weed has mood up-lifting effects, but it also makes me think more about life, and I didn't want to think about that much back then. So alcohol and pills felt like the way to go for me at the time. And honestly, I don't regret it. It kept me from doing a lot of dumb things.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: iamconfused]
    #9275503 - 11/19/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Your personal anecdote aside, some 50,000 DUI deaths per year is not good evidence that alcohol keeps people from doing dumb things.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9275564 - 11/19/08 10:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Your personal anecdote aside, some 50,000 DUI deaths per year is not good evidence that alcohol keeps people from doing dumb things.




I say we ban cars.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: deCypher]
    #9275634 - 11/19/08 10:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I say we can bars.

(I am in awesome form as per usual.)


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9275676 - 11/19/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

But what about happy hour?  :cryariver:


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: deCypher]
    #9276450 - 11/20/08 01:04 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That's what clowns are for.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9276600 - 11/20/08 01:45 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Alcohol impairs judgment. Simple.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: figmentfragment]
    #9277443 - 11/20/08 09:13 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So does pot, simple.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: iamconfused]
    #9277449 - 11/20/08 09:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So alcohol and pills felt like the way to go for me at the time. And honestly, I don't regret it. It kept me from doing a lot of dumb things.

Nothing wrong with that.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: Icelander]
    #9277456 - 11/20/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
So does pot, simple.




Cheese impairs judgment as well, simple.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: fireworks_god]
    #9277462 - 11/20/08 09:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Cheese? Which kind?


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: Icelander]
    #9277638 - 11/20/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The Cheesus that died on the cross.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9277744 - 11/20/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I overindulge roughly twice per week because I have fun when doing so and I have realized I am immune to hangovers.


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: fireworks_god]
    #9277778 - 11/20/08 10:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
So does pot, simple.




Cheese impairs judgment as well, simple.




Huh?


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: Redstorm]
    #9277797 - 11/20/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: deCypher]
    #9277819 - 11/20/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: Alcohol: pain vs. pleasure [Re: deCypher]
    #9277887 - 11/20/08 10:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:


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