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OfflineUnderTheOak
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Bolete(?) ID
    #9254642 - 11/16/08 12:17 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)



I found this (bolete?) today on the edge of forest and moor.
Most trees are birches, pines and oaks.


The location is close to the (dutch-german)border on the right side in the brown part. Yep, in Overijssel.. a province of Holland.

Any idea what kind of bolete this is?
Is it edible?
Are there similar boletes which are poisonous?

If it is edible, what would be a nice way to prepare it?

Thanks :smile:

(PS: My girlfriend made some better pictures of it, I'll probably be able to post them tomorrow, if needed)


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: UnderTheOak]
    #9254983 - 11/16/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

You guessed it, it's some kind of bolete. I'm not sure of the species, but it's past its prime in any case, so there is no tasty way of preparing this one :wink: Many boletes are edible, the ones that are poisonous are not very dangerously so. That doesn't mean it's ok to go ahead and experiment. Try to get an affirmative ID. For that purpose, it helps to get a good (i.e., sharp, well-exposed) close up of the stem. It's also very important to note any bruising reactions.

Tukkers hier, wie had dat gedacht :omgawesome:


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: koraks]
    #9255025 - 11/16/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, that's a pity. I've found smaller ones too but they probably had been kicked over by some small children. A lot of people walk in that forest with their children.

As for bruising, I haven't seen much bruising on it so far. I'll take a good look at it in full light tomorrow.
My girlfriend definetly has some better shots of it so it'll probably be easier to identify it with the pictures she made. I didnt have any small tripod with me so my snapshot camera had a hard time getting decent shots.


(En inderdaad, een tukker. Oorspronkelijk kom ik uit de buurt van Leiden overigens :wink:)


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: UnderTheOak]
    #9255040 - 11/16/08 02:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If you have any, post some pics with higher resolution. Based on my knowledge of shrooms in The Netherlands, I'd say that b. edulis is the most likely candidate. I was actually surprised to have seen some edulis pins about 10 days ago here near the Belgian border. They looked quite good, other than they'd been kicked over as well.

(Mooi taaltje daarzo :laugh:)


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: UnderTheOak]
    #9255052 - 11/16/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

What does the cap feel like? Like wet velvet? Or is it rather smooth and glossy? It sure looks like an aged specimen of Boletus edulis to me.


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9255114 - 11/16/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The cap seems to be pretty solid and dry. The touch is kinda soft, the velvet thing does come into mind... but I've never felt wet velvet.

Also, if im looking for boletes which can be tasty... What should I bear in mind?

Thanks for the help so far :smile:

(& @ koraks: Het is inderdaad een grappig taaltje, er liggen nogal wat verbanden met duits. Ze kunnen als ze over de grens gaan hier zo met de duitsers praten die ook een dialect spreken. Zelf kan ik het niet altijd helemaal begrijpen, zeker bij oudere personen word dat wel eens moeilijk.)


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: UnderTheOak]
    #9255235 - 11/16/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

First off, unlike with gilled mushrooms, there aren't too many horribly toxic Boletes that the good ones can be confused with. That's why they are the preferred mushrooms for more inexperienced mushroom hunters. From the thickness of its stem, I would really say this is a Boletus edulis. They are wonderful when they are young and fresh. With older specimen, you can remove the "tubes" (what are the gills/tubes of Boletes called in English??) and then slice the mushroom up and dry it to be used on nice gourmet sauces later. I always have a stash of many varieties of dried Boletes for sauces and soups.

This is WHAT YOU WANT



This is WHAT YOU DON'T WANT!

One of the very few bad Boletes that you can confuse edulis with (though it's non-toxic, but I can guarantee you that it will ruin your mushroom feast good and proper!) is Boletus radicans:



If in doubt, take a piece off the cap and taste it. If it's bitter as fuck, it a radicans.

Another that you might confuse a King Bolete with is Boletus calopus, which is even toxic, but not heavily. Stomach aches and Diarrhea is all it will cause:



Additionally, these Boletus badius (Xerocomus badius) - WHAT YOU WANT AGAIN - are delicious:





If you find any and you are in doubt, come here and post the pics. I have been hunting mainly Boletes for almost 35 years and I can definitely tell you if you should take a bite or not.


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9255378 - 11/16/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Ah yes, that's a nice informational post, thanks :smile:.

I found out about the fact that the bolete edulis is seen as a very tasy mushroom so I went to the forest hoping to be able to spot one. The main goal of the walk was just walking and making some photos of mushrooms.

I love the mushrooms I've eaten so far... even though I haven't had more than the common small white things (available in about every supermarket, known as champignons here) and a mix of 3 forest mushroom (also found in a supermarket, these were tasty), but I have no ideas which those were. I'd like to try more types of mushrooms, especially those which you can find yourself. I'd actually like to try more food which I could find in general. I'm still young so there's lots to discover and guidance is heavily appreciated since I can't really learn much from my parents on this subject.


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: UnderTheOak]
    #9255422 - 11/16/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If you are a beginner at hunting mushrooms, this board is great to ask for advice, because of the sheer amount of expert identifiers gathered here, but nevertheless, you should look into getting a book on mushroom identification as well. There are quite a few good ones that are small enough to bring along when you go hunting for some instant IDing. You should also have another, more extensive one at home for more specific IDing once you get home. And then there's always the shroomery. :-)
Try to take as many detailed pics as possibly. Not with a mobile phone cam, but with a fairly decent digicam that can do macros as well, because it's the tiny details that count.
That said, it's already well into the season and many good edibles you simply won't find anymore now. From experience, where I am at (pretty much center of Germany), in a good year, the best time for finding Boletes is the last half of September and all through October, but that can vary, depending on the temperature and humidity.


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9259237 - 11/17/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If you're into hunting boletes, I'd go hunting through the second half of august and september. THis is pretty late already.


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Re: Bolete(?) ID [Re: koraks]
    #9259250 - 11/17/08 10:18 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Not here. I checked my regular spots the beginning of September this year and there were none. Zip. Nada. Zilch


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