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whats the best way to take kratom?
    #9253757 - 11/16/08 07:05 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i tried just a toss and wash with the powder ast night. it was ok but it stuck to my mouth and wasnt tasty lol. and it took my breath for a few seconds. will the powder dissolve in water?

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9253762 - 11/16/08 07:07 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no idea never tried it.smoke it?is it any good?


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #9253821 - 11/16/08 07:49 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately the powder won't dissolve in water, as in the case with tea leaves. I just brew it as a tea but some folks load gel caps with the powder instead. You'd probably want to use a gummy extract for smoking instead of whole leaves or powder.


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: N2loma]
    #9254741 - 11/16/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yea its good. i dont think i dosed high enough though. if you want details i can send them

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9254967 - 11/16/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Smoke/tea are generally the best ways.


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
    #9255094 - 11/16/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

dont smoke it, make tea or swallow it in capsules (or mix with liquid and swallow)

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9255177 - 11/16/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I've prepared it the way described in this erowid experience report with good effect. Basically, extract it into a minimal amount of liquor using the microwave to heat it, then extract with water (again using the microwave to heat) to leech out the ethanol that absorbed into the kratom.

Mitragynine isn't very water-soluble, so this method gets a lot more goods into solution, and the little bit of alcohol potentiates the kratom and helps your body absorb it.

It doesn't taste good (kratom never does), but it will get you nice and out of it.

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #9255471 - 11/16/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I've prepared it the way described in this erowid experience report with good effect. Basically, extract it into a minimal amount of liquor using the microwave to heat it, then extract with water (again using the microwave to heat) to leech out the ethanol that absorbed into the kratom.

Mitragynine isn't very water-soluble, so this method gets a lot more goods into solution, and the little bit of alcohol potentiates the kratom and helps your body absorb it.

It doesn't taste good (kratom never does), but it will get you nice and out of it.




I prefer to buy the full spectrum extract tincture (google it) and put 3 drops in a drink.  It's about $5 more, but it comes ready to use, standardized in batches, and with a dropper.  I'll have to try your method some time.  You are the man when it comes to extractions :smile:

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: arpnuke]
    #9257380 - 11/16/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yea i would use alcohol but im afraid im not quite old enough yet hahaha. i cant buy it. and i really dont drink anyways. i am legal but just not quite old enough yet. i capped some kratom today but i didnt take it. ill prob just do that from now on. stomach has been kinda blah from taking it yesterday tho

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9278895 - 11/20/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

how does kratom compare with other opiates?

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: dubhuman]
    #9278988 - 11/20/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

its pretty good, I havent done too many opiate, mostly just vicadin. But on a high dose of kratom you feel a really strong opiate high, some say its similar to opium and heroine, and can be used to get off those substances, but its also addicting in its own rights.. and its great with some ganja:stoned:

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: drummerdude49]
    #9278998 - 11/20/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

it's nowhere near as strong as opium or heroin, but kind of on the same level as hydrocodone or codeine to me.  It's nice though because it's not just a boring codeine/hydro high that you have to smoke weed on to enjoy, it's got something extra to it.

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: AgingHippy]
    #9282574 - 11/20/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i'll give it a try, although i was recently pretty disappointed with kava root,

and someone said it's strong enough to make you nod off...if that's true... mmmmmmm.... you gotta love the nod;)

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: dubhuman]
    #9282803 - 11/21/08 12:49 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Kava root is extremely enjoyable when done right. You just have to break thru. Also mixing kava with weed makes it 10 fold.

Also there IS a euphoria accompanied with Kratom. Do not go into it expecting to get an opiate high. I don't even think you can really compare it to the strength of opiates, it's different. It is strong, and it does give you a kind of nod. Kratom is fuuun.


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
    #9282856 - 11/21/08 01:00 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i definately get a very strong euphoria and to be honest i get this like waking dream type things, it feels so good just to like lay and close my eyes adn than i have the most vivid waking dreams, its weird, its like im awake but dreams happen, it starts out by like me seeing random people and than gets more and more vivid. i have the bali powder and it sucks to drink it down 25 grams of it is like heaps and heaps of powder to gag down. i might try to dump it into a big chocolate milkshake


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: LedHead]
    #9282897 - 11/21/08 01:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Right. I need to get some extract. Honestly i only get the waking dreams thing when i mix it with Ketamine. But i have never really ventured on extremely high doses of Kratom. But KnK (Ketamine and Kratom for those that didn't get it) Is a great combo.


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: LedHead]
    #9283098 - 11/21/08 02:00 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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i definately get a very strong euphoria and to be honest i get this like waking dream type things, it feels so good just to like lay and close my eyes adn than i have the most vivid waking dreams, its weird, its like im awake but dreams happen, it starts out by like me seeing random people and than gets more and more vivid. i have the bali powder and it sucks to drink it down 25 grams of it is like heaps and heaps of powder to gag down. i might try to dump it into a big chocolate milkshake


try mixing it with some hot water like tea and then straining it

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: AgingHippy]
    #9285982 - 11/21/08 02:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

well i think i might have figured this one out by myself.....its almost xmas time....and eggnog is in stores...i drank powdered kratom mixed with eggnog and could taste a thing. highly reccomend it for you eggnog heads haha (i love it)

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
    #9286630 - 11/21/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Smoke/tea are generally the best ways.




agreed. I have never done the raw kratom leaves though. just extracts. I just mix it with water and chug it down. It tastes like straight up  drinking dirt mixed with water. I tried parachuting it but, it was much less effective. It took along time to kick in, and its effects were less pronounced than the tea. smoking it is good once you the tea kicks in to boost it. smoking it alone is good too.  you can get a pretty good high on it too. i used to practically nod on it on high doses.

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9286651 - 11/21/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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well i think i might have figured this one out by myself.....its almost xmas time....and eggnog is in stores...i drank powdered kratom mixed with eggnog and could taste a thing. highly reccomend it for you eggnog heads haha (i love it)




best idea I have ever heard. definatly do this.

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9286744 - 11/21/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yeah its definatly not as strong as heroin or even other opiates. Its much lighter on the body. It has a quality thats hard to define. I dont want to say its hallucinogenic but it kinda feels like opiates mixed with a low dose of acid. Its more lucid. I get an minor closed eye visuals too. The colors and patterns are more vivid. not unlike being really high on weed and closing your eyes, but differnt. better. On opiates its more of a blank space I fall into. But i do sometimes get waking dreams on smack. a short scene will just play in my minds eye and never return.

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9293499 - 11/22/08 06:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

ok, so where can i find a good trusty website to order it from i dont want to buy weak shit

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9293952 - 11/22/08 08:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i always get waking dreams, if by that you mean nodding off. they arent very psychedelic... more random and simple... kratom sounds really interesting though. i wont be expecting dope or anything but still...

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: stinkybritches]
    #9296175 - 11/23/08 07:20 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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well i think i might have figured this one out by myself.....its almost xmas time....and eggnog is in stores...i drank powdered kratom mixed with eggnog and could taste a thing. highly reccomend it for you eggnog heads haha (i love it)




best idea I have ever heard. definatly do this.




haha thanks man :] it  is the best. u cant taste the kratom at all. it looks nasty tho haha

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9296201 - 11/23/08 07:32 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i use capsules for the most part

takes some patience to stuff them but its tasteless and works the same for me as any other method ive tried


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: anyone420]
    #9296204 - 11/23/08 07:33 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

does the powder stain your fingers green and get all up in your nailz?

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: AgingHippy]
    #9296373 - 11/23/08 08:56 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

not really sticky, maybe a little dusty.  theres small particles in the bag that im calling kratom dust


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: anyone420]
    #9297701 - 11/23/08 02:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Dub, check out www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com

It's a shroomery sponsor so it's legit.

I was also thinking of getting some Kratom and Calea. Anyone ever try that specific mix?

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: jvm]
    #9301529 - 11/24/08 12:38 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

whats the best form of kratom to buy? which is the most potent?

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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: dubhuman]
    #9302324 - 11/24/08 06:20 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

the best form and most potent might not be the same thing in this case.

because the most potent would be an extract, but by definition pure leaf is better because you get more kratom/$


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Re: whats the best way to take kratom? [Re: TNASTYII]
    #9302829 - 11/24/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I just saw a post on Edot where someone was very impressed with the result of using a macchinetta (more commonly known as a stovetop espresso maker, though what it makes isn't really espresso, just very strong coffee).

A macchinetta is one of these things:


If you have one, give it a whirl and let us know how it is

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