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tripping with slight opiate withdrawals?
    #9216859 - 11/10/08 08:47 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Has anyone here done that before? I'm not withdrawing that bad anymore, but I still feel slightly weird some times, not to mention the occasional anxiety that creeps up.

Anyway, I can't remember if I heard this is a good idea or not. I got a half zip arriving today of some potent mushrooms, and I'd like to test a half 8th out tonight. I've tripped many times on acid, and around 15 on mushrooms so I'll be fine. I also have a kpin laying around.

I just want to know if it'll provide comfort or discomfort. Like I said, I'm not even feeling too bad today but I don't know how I'll feel later. I've been kind of "dizzy" since yesterday which is probably due to anxiety since xanax took care of it, though I don't feel anxious at all..

Thanks :psychsplit:


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: dwtk]
    #9217009 - 11/10/08 09:20 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

ehh guess I'm better off just waiting until I feel 100% again.. no point in risking an uncomfortable time

I'd still like to hear any similar experiences though


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: dwtk]
    #9217520 - 11/10/08 11:11 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I don't have any experience of tripping with withdrawals but I would go ahead and trip. A lot of research used to be done with regard to using psychedelic drugs to combat addictions and dependencies. Specifically alcohol but certainly opiates as well, from the reading I've done on the subject it had surprisingly effective results. I doubt it would make you feel much worse, but I'm no expert.

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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: MindFood]
    #9218015 - 11/10/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I had a solo tripping retreat at a cabin one weekend. I had some Opiate WDs at the time. Not severe but still uncomfortable. I tripped hard for 18 hours and afterwards I had NO withdrawals, NONE.
I still don't know what happened, but maybe something got reset in my brain.
This was on 4-HO-MIPT which is a psilocin analog.
I did about 250mgs in the 18 hours though. Which is quite a lot.

So, I believe if you dose high enough there is a chance that it may be beneficial in regards to the opiate WDs.

But this is the only incident that I know of and I can't say for sure what happened.

I do know that low dose mushrooms can be uncomfortable on the comedown when going through slight withdrawals.

So bottom line? It worked for me, but the dose was WAY high.

I wouldn't recommend it at all though if you have severe WDs.

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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: El Zorro]
    #9218543 - 11/10/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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El Zorro said:

This was on 4-HO-MIPT which is a psilocin analog.
I did about 250mgs in the 18 hours though. Which is quite a lot.





250?
That's nuts. Typo?


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: dwtk]
    #9218731 - 11/10/08 03:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I once tripped on San Pedro during a mild opiate withdrawal.

I found that my trip centred around the harm that I was doing to my body and gave me insight into the reasons why I take opiates, which were mostly to do with not being comfortable in my own skin and wanting to sheild myself from what I perceived as the harshness of life.

A lot of truths were conveyed to me during that trip, but then mescaline is the most benevolent of teachers.  A mushroom trip  would probably give you similar insights, but they might be a bit less forgiving about it..


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: Revelation]
    #9219337 - 11/10/08 05:13 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i'm going to make half 8th tea once I wait an hour since I just ate.. hopefully that's long enough and it's still a decent trip


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: dwtk]
    #9219369 - 11/10/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Coming out of a couple months of daily opiate use I tried to give myself 4 or 5 days before a planned trip, but I was still pretty acheing and had a little hunger for something numbing, but decided to take some lsd anyway.  Wasn't a bad trip but I was certainly more uncomfortable than usual.  *btw* I've lost like 11 hits of some DOC, and I'm getting pissed.


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: isaacein]
    #9224743 - 11/11/08 02:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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isaacein said:
Quote:

El Zorro said:

This was on 4-HO-MIPT which is a psilocin analog.
I did about 250mgs in the 18 hours though. Which is quite a lot.





250?
That's nuts. Typo?





No NOT typo

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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: dwtk]
    #9234030 - 11/12/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

My personal experience is that psychedelics give complete relief from mild opiate withdrawal symptoms.

IMO, one of the best things a person could do during mild withdrawal.

Of course, this reflects my experience... yours could differ.


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #9234280 - 11/12/08 10:16 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

lol

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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: pizzathehut]
    #9234512 - 11/12/08 10:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The best way to deal with opiate withdrawal is to not take opiates.


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #9235325 - 11/13/08 01:32 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

ive found shrooms completely rid me of ssri and opiate withdrawals.


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: drunkenlawngnome]
    #9237146 - 11/13/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I have an opiate headache from hydromorphone use last night, but I'm thinking of making an 8th tea later tonight :mushroom2:


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: dwtk]
    #9237572 - 11/13/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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I have an opiate headache from hydromorphone use last night, but I'm thinking of making an 8th tea later tonight :mushroom2:





The only times I've gotten serious "opiate headaches" were times that I took WAY too much...

...like the time I decided to lick the gel out of a fentanyl patch. Fortunately, my dumb ass had a huge tolerance at the time, so I'm still here to talk about it.  Lost consciousness within about 15-20 minutes or so, woke up the next day with the worst headache of my life.

I've had similar experience with taking way too much poppy tea.  Be careful.

Regarding the 8th...  it might make you feel better... yes...  however--if I were using a psychedelic to help me get over habitual opiate use, I would wait until I was actually in withdrawal. I've found this is the best way to do it.  But again; your experience may be different.


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Re: tripping with slight opiate withdrawals? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #9237606 - 11/13/08 02:32 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah unfortunently I'm not trying to get over it hahah.. I just want to trip and I happen to be going through slight w/ds


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