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How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n???
    #9232229 - 11/12/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Hey everyone, I am about to do my first wbs tek and from what i read the jars need to be washed before you add the grains and pc them. 

My question is, since the jars i have are new, would washing them out with hot water be enough since i cannot fit my hands in them or should i run the through the dishwasher.....or better yet do they even need to be washed at all since they are going to be pc'd....Thanks!

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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: stuckinabeat]
    #9232279 - 11/12/08 05:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you should be fine. since they are new they arent going to be dirty.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: doze]
    #9232371 - 11/12/08 05:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks :thumbup:

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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: doze]
    #9232377 - 11/12/08 05:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

If you want you can put them in the dishwasher. I do it, but it's not going to matter since you are pressure cooking anyway.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: MHbound]
    #9232585 - 11/12/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

how clean do u think the wbs is??? not very clean so just hot water and soap should be fine. but the cleaner the better for this hobby.

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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: cokane]
    #9232868 - 11/12/08 07:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

hot water is fine. make sure to let it soak for 24 hours. then rinse. then simmer. then rinse again. then drain for at least 30 minutes.

dont use soap.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: doze]
    #9232951 - 11/12/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I've never cleaned a new set of jars. And I run my old jars in the dishwasher twice before reusing them.

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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: Ambience]
    #9233632 - 11/12/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

cleaning jars is a waste of time.  the only thing that needs to be cleaned on them (if they aren't contaminated of course) is the jar rim.  PC takes care of the rest.

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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: billyboy36]
    #9233679 - 11/12/08 08:57 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

not very, pressure cookers will kill all.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: gofudgeyourself]
    #9235188 - 11/13/08 12:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Cleaning them out gets rid of residue though. PC will kill all contams in the jars, but I still like mine to be fully clean when I start.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: gofudgeyourself]
    #9235852 - 11/13/08 06:43 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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gofudgeyourself said:
not very, pressure cookers will kill all.




No they won't. There are heat resistant endospores that unless you germinate them 15PSI pressure cookers won't kill them.
That is why you soak your WBS & other grains for roughly 12 hours.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: alkylbenzene23]
    #9235864 - 11/13/08 06:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Sterilisation of grains is never 100%. Youd have to sterilise for 24 hours to guarentee complete sterilisation but your grains would be mush.


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Re: How clean do wbs jars need to be before pc'n??? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9236646 - 11/13/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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No they won't. There are heat resistant endospores that unless you germinate them 15PSI pressure cookers won't kill them.
That is why you soak your WBS & other grains for roughly 12 hours.




Prove it.  I have never once soaked a grain and have never had endospore problems.


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endospores are useful to bacteria, but can cause problems for people.
Endospores can survive a temperature of 100 ºC, the boiling point of water. Items
must be sterilized or heated under high pressure in either a pressure cooker or an
autoclave. Under pressure, water will boil at a higher temperature than its usual
100 ºC, which kills endospores




If endospores weren't killed in an autoclave or PC, we'd all be dead from clostridium botulinum.

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